Topic: Advice needed please!!
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Sun 11/30/08 11:30 AM
Edited by Unknow on Sun 11/30/08 11:36 AM

Opps

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Sun 11/30/08 11:58 AM
Snitch her out,


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Sun 11/30/08 12:06 PM
Get the facts & do what is right for the children. Your son deserves this.

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Sun 11/30/08 12:09 PM
If you applied for and recieved the benifits you could act as executor and give the money to the children as yuou see fit or set it up in accou nts for their colledge etc...wish you the best.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:01 PM
Thanks everyone for your replies. I really do appreciate the input. I'm going down to social security tomorrow.

But my son wasn't fathered by my ex husband. Im just doing this for Zowie as she is a big part of my life even though she isn't mine. I'm going to help her get whats rightfully hers!!

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Sun 11/30/08 01:06 PM

She is already recieving the SSI for herself because she lied to them. Like I stated before, I don't want any money. Daniel and I were married in 1998 and were divorced in 2007. She told SSI that they were together for 10 or so years. She is a fraud and a lyer. I'm taking my papers down there tomorrow, that girl deserves nothing.


Go for it girl the ex girlfriend does not deserve the benefits his kids do and if he has a current wife but not her that is the problem with the system today most will not rat another out for taking advantage of the situation.

Do what you know is right!!

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Sun 11/30/08 01:06 PM
Good for you Kitten. I am sure that's what her dad would have wanted.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:11 PM

I don't think that SSI will cover an ex spouse. If he died while he was legally still married to someone it would cover that. Whether she was with him for years or not shouldn't matter if they weren't legally married. You should absolutly apply for it for your child. They will split it among all of his children.


I don't think that's true, Jill.

My Dad is still alive, but my Mom is drawing from his Social Security even though they have been divorced for 20 years.

I don't know if Kitten would be able to draw benefits, but I know the child would be able to.


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Sun 11/30/08 01:14 PM
Edited by Winx on Sun 11/30/08 01:15 PM



I don't think that SSI will cover an ex spouse. If he died while he was legally still married to someone it would cover that. Whether she was with him for years or not shouldn't matter if they weren't legally married. You should absolutly apply for it for your child. They will split it among all of his children.


I have read all about it, and it will cover an ex depending on the length of the marriage. But I don't want it. I want both his children to benefit, but his girlfriend is a greedy woman and is taking a cut for herself. She is taking away from his child!!


Don't know if that's True. I believe SSI has a set amount for each Dependant., not a Total Amount available. His Children should get the Same amount whether SSI is paying You or not.


I thought that it wasn't the total amount divided among dependents. I thought it was a set amount too.

Kitten, you're eligible for it too, I think. It wouldn't be taking away from anybody.



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Sun 11/30/08 01:21 PM
Actually and ex spouse is due the benefits until they re-marry which at that time the benefits do at that time stop. But if they do not re-marry they can in fact receive them it does not take away from the other kids they have it scaled out how much one child receives two kids ect.. But the spouses is based another way it does not take away from the kids. Myself I received SS from my Mom that passed away when I was little till I turned 18 then it automatically stopped. It was not much at that time but every little bit helps at times.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:27 PM
I wasnt sure how they doled the money out. I just know that the girlfriend is claiming to be his widow. They were only together for a couple of years before he passed away. Him and I were seperated since 2003 but we remained friends.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:27 PM
SSI is for people who didn't pay in enough quarters to qualify for SSDI. SSDI is for people who payed in enough quarters to receive it. Of course this is dealing with a disability. SS benefits is paid to people who retire. I believe you can get partial benefits at 62. There's a big difference in SSI and SSDI benefits and entitlements to spouse and dependents. Did he retire or become disabled. The "I" threw me off.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:30 PM

SSI is for people who didn't pay in enough quarters to qualify for SSDI. SSDI is for people who payed in enough quarters to receive it. Of course this is dealing with a disability. SS benefits is paid to people who retire. I believe you can get partial benefits at 62. There's a big difference in SSI and SSDI benefits and entitlements to spouse and dependents. Did he retire or become disabled. The "I" threw me off.


He died in July.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:34 PM


SSI is for people who didn't pay in enough quarters to qualify for SSDI. SSDI is for people who payed in enough quarters to receive it. Of course this is dealing with a disability. SS benefits is paid to people who retire. I believe you can get partial benefits at 62. There's a big difference in SSI and SSDI benefits and entitlements to spouse and dependents. Did he retire or become disabled. The "I" threw me off.


He died in July.
Was he retired or diabled. SSI is Supplemental benefits for a disabled person. Meaning they did not work enough quaters to qualifiy for SSDI. "Socail Security Disabilty Insurance"

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Sun 11/30/08 01:34 PM
The biggie, Kitten, is if you are eligible, you will not be taking any monies away from anybody else.

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Sun 11/30/08 01:39 PM

Ok, so my ex-husband died this past July in a tragic work accident. He at the time had a girlfriend and a 3 year old little boy. We just got our divorce last November. He has a daughter that is 14 that he adored, and me and her mom became really close when Zowie(the daughter) was very little.

Anyhow, I was told i could apply for his SSI, but didn't because I want the children to have the benefits. But I found out today that his girlfriend at the time filed for it for herself claiming they were together for 10 or so years. She is also getting it for the little boy. I was contacted by Zowies mom and told this. Zowie, his daughter isn't getting benefits right now because of something the girlfriend did. I'm really disgusted by her actions.

Should I go down to Social security tomorrow and rat her out? I have my divorce papers to prove that they haven't been together for the time she says and I have my marriage license.

What would you do? Did I make any sense? lol


if i was you

i would go in fill out all the paper work

take in all related/needed documents

not mention the girlfriend

and lt the chips fall where they may

if you go in with a chip on your shoulder (per say)

it may make you look vengeful

just act like you do not know

after all you are entitled to file

best of luck to you

sorry for the children's loss

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Sun 11/30/08 01:39 PM

The biggie, Kitten, is if you are eligible, you will not be taking any monies away from anybody else.
She might not be. Dependents only draw it till their 18 now. It was until their out of school but was changed a few years back. I would call a Lawyer who handles SS..

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Sun 11/30/08 01:40 PM

The biggie, Kitten, is if you are eligible, you will not be taking any monies away from anybody else.
She might not be. Dependents only draw it till their 18 now. It was until their out of school but was changed a few years back. I would call a Lawyer who handles SS..

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Sun 11/30/08 01:40 PM

Ok, so my ex-husband died this past July in a tragic work accident. He at the time had a girlfriend and a 3 year old little boy. We just got our divorce last November. He has a daughter that is 14 that he adored, and me and her mom became really close when Zowie(the daughter) was very little.

Anyhow, I was told i could apply for his SSI, but didn't because I want the children to have the benefits. But I found out today that his girlfriend at the time filed for it for herself claiming they were together for 10 or so years. She is also getting it for the little boy. I was contacted by Zowies mom and told this. Zowie, his daughter isn't getting benefits right now because of something the girlfriend did. I'm really disgusted by her actions.

Should I go down to Social security tomorrow and rat her out? I have my divorce papers to prove that they haven't been together for the time she says and I have my marriage license.

What would you do? Did I make any sense? lol


if i was you

i would go in fill out all the paper work

take in all related/needed documents

not mention the girlfriend

and lt the chips fall where they may

if you go in with a chip on your shoulder (per say)

it may make you look vengeful

just act like you do not know

after all you are entitled to file

best of luck to you

sorry for the children's loss

flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou



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Sun 11/30/08 01:40 PM
If you are not currently getting Social Security benefits

You should apply for survivors benefits promptly because, in some cases, benefits will be paid from the time you apply and not from the time the worker died.

You can apply by telephone or at any Social Security office. We will need certain information, but do not delay applying if you do not have everything. We will help you get what you need. We need either original documents or copies certified by the agency that issued them.

The information we need includes:

* Proof of death—either from a funeral home or death certificate;
* Your Social Security number, as well as the deceased worker’s;
* Your birth certificate;
* Your marriage certificate, if you are a widow or widower;
* Your divorce papers, if you are applying as a divorced widow or widower;
* Dependent children’s Social Security numbers, if available, and birth certificates;
* Deceased worker’s W-2 forms or federal self-employment tax return for the most recent year; and
* The name of your bank and your account number so your benefits can be deposited directly into your account.


How much will I receive?

The benefit amount is based on the earnings of the person who died. The more the worker paid into Social Security, the greater your benefits will be.

Social Security uses the deceased worker’s basic benefit amount and calculates what percentage survivors are entitled to. The percentage depends on the survivors’ ages and relationship to the worker. Here are the most typical situations:

* A widow or widower, at full retirement age or older, generally receives 100 percent of the worker’s basic benefit amount;
* A widow or widower, age 60 or older, but under full retirement age, receives about 71-99 percent of the worker’s basic benefit amount; or
* A widow or widower, any age, with a child under age 16, receives 75 percent of the worker’s benefit amount.
* Children receive 75 percent of the worker’s benefit amount.


Maximum family benefits

There is a limit to the benefits that can be paid to you and other family members each month. The limit varies, but is generally between 150 and 180 percent of the deceased’s benefit amount.


What if I remarry?

Generally, you cannot get widow’s or widower’s benefits if you remarry before age 60. But remarriage after age 60 (or age 50 if you are disabled) will not prevent you from getting benefit payments based on your former spouse’s work. And at age 62 or older, you may get benefits based on your new spouse’s work, if those benefits would be higher.


This is straight from the SS site it's self! Hope it clears a few things up.