Topic: Okay I Give Up...
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Fri 11/28/08 06:34 AM

That is exactly how I view it Lex. Women and Men say the "right" things to make themselves appear to be "not shallow". And it is because of this that we see all the "Nice Guy" threads...which really piss me off cause it is like the guy who originally posted it is whining his ass off.

A guy can be nice, sweet, funny and an all around good person. But if he doesn't have looks, then you know he will get shot down (and this is vice versa too).


Absolutely.

The problem is that this creates a communications gap between the people who really should just be honest about all this stuff in the first place.

Because if what you SAY you want is NOT what you want, and you're only saying it to make yourself look like you have some substance and depth, you're only going to end up noticed by the people who are LOOKING for substance and depth -- which you are only simulating.

I mean, how many women claim they want a guy with intelligence? OK, my IQ is way up there, I've got the numbers to back it up, I've published two books and I have a background in psychology. I think people can tell that I'm not exactly a dummy.

Do you think I ever hear a peep out of the women who claim to be looking for intelligence? Heh -- we both know the answer to that one!

Which is fine. But the thing is -- how are you ever going to find what you're looking for if you won't even be honest with yourself about what that is?




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Fri 11/28/08 10:26 AM



Why do women say they want honesty, brains, funny, sensitive, etc......and when they find that guy...they blow him off?:angry: :wink:


Because it's what they think they're supposed to say? That's how it looks to me, anyway.

There seems to be this "need" to present oneself (and this goes for both genders) as being somehow "above" strictly physical attractions. And that requires at least the facade of being not "shallow" -- but how honest is it?

I have noticed this phenomenon on dating sites for ages -- most of the time, a woman who says she wants someone with "honesty, brains, funny, sensitive, etc." will completely ignore him when he shows up. I'm sure guys do it too.

The point is, it does raise a question about the legitimacy of their original statement about what matters to them.

Either that, or they simply can't make a decision and stick to it....?







That is exactly how I view it Lex. Women and Men say the "right" things to make themselves appear to be "not shallow". And it is because of this that we see all the "Nice Guy" threads...which really piss me off cause it is like the guy who originally posted it is whining his ass off.

A guy can be nice, sweet, funny and an all around good person. But if he doesn't have looks, then you know he will get shot down (and this is vice versa too).



I think women, and men for that matter, want to believe that they are attracted to those things...and may actually believe it.
But despite what anyone wants to admit, many of the things we find attractive are superficial. It's hard wired. But it's not socially acceptable to say so.

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Fri 11/28/08 11:13 AM

A functioning brain is always good.


and your definition of that would be?????

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Fri 11/28/08 11:25 AM


A functioning brain is always good.


and your definition of that would be?????


Read back a couple of pages and you'll see. :-)

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Fri 11/28/08 12:53 PM
Edited by Plainome on Fri 11/28/08 01:06 PM


Why do women say they want honesty, brains, funny, sensitive, etc......and when they find that guy...they blow him off?:angry: :wink:


Because it's what they think they're supposed to say? That's how it looks to me, anyway.

There seems to be this "need" to present oneself (and this goes for both genders) as being somehow "above" strictly physical attractions. And that requires at least the facade of being not "shallow" -- but how honest is it?

I have noticed this phenomenon on dating sites for ages -- most of the time, a woman who says she wants someone with "honesty, brains, funny, sensitive, etc." will completely ignore him when he shows up. I'm sure guys do it too.

The point is, it does raise a question about the legitimacy of their original statement about what matters to them.

Either that, or they simply can't make a decision and stick to it....?







Well, any "list" I've every made is just the beginning..........just becaues you have those characteristics, or think you do, doesn't mean you are a match for me.

Besides, when you bring in the "attractive" or "hot" or "smoking" into it, every person has a different definition of what is good looking to them. So YES, you must be physically attracted to the person, but that doesn't mean you have to look like Brad Pitt, there are plenty of women who don't find him attractive.

The thing is that some men don't care what they look like at all. They dress sloppy, don't keep their nails clean, don't care if their hairstyle is flattering, etc.

Work with what you've got.

My room mate from several years ago fell in love with and married a guy that I thought was absolutely ugly, lol. Short, fat, and balding at the age of twenty-three. He didn't have a very good attitude imo, either...........but she fell for him.

Stop blaming it on the opposite sex, it is you. Either you are putting out the wrong vibes and/or not being your true self.....................or you are the one being picky.

Or, the alternative, you aren't ready/meant to have anyone in your life right now. Live life for you, get involved in things that interest you, take care of yourself for yourself, and...........well it is more likely that you'll meet someone who cares about kids if you are volunteering for say..........an orphanage or something.

PS

You'd be surprised what women (and some men) are actually attracted to. It is more so their attitude, the way they carry themselves, the way they communicate, sense of humore, outspoken, confidence. Etc.

Most people associate this with "good looks" but it isn't true, it is simply that these qualities come easier to those with good looks, because those who view themselves as unattractive are not as confident, do not put themselves out there, are afraid of rejection, etc...............

Get it?? I hope so.

Yes, looks matter, but to say that you have to look like Barbie, or that you have to look like ........can't even think of a man..........Let's use Brad Pitt again, is just ridiculous.

Yes, if you are dog ugly, if people cringe to look at your face, you are going to have issues in the romance department, but if your normal/average.................it boils down to your personality.

It isn't everyone else that doesn't think you are good enough, it is you, and you are sending out those vibes. Which means only users and abusers, or people who feel sorry for you are going to respond. At least that is my opinion.

Of course, if you are an average guy/girl, and you are looking for a hot model type..........well, frankly depending on what that person is looking for, you may have to become famous and powerful. There are plenty of hot actresses who are with not so hot looking guys, Jennifer Lopez being one, her guy isn't all that when it comes to looks. he's ok, but not "hot"............but anyhoo, I've said my peace.

krupa's photo
Fri 11/28/08 01:06 PM
It is all in the kiss...If that isn't like a flame in my mouth...everything else is irrelevant....

Holly4459's photo
Fri 11/28/08 04:02 PM

It is all in the kiss...If that isn't like a flame in my mouth...everything else is irrelevant....


I'd like to try that Krupa!smooched

imhereforyou's photo
Fri 11/28/08 05:11 PM
Ask a million people, get a million different answers. If you show an interest in someone and ask questions about the things they are interested in they find you a lot more interesting.

krupa's photo
Mon 12/01/08 04:48 PM


It is all in the kiss...If that isn't like a flame in my mouth...everything else is irrelevant....


I'd like to try that Krupa!smooched


Me too baby....me too.....sigh.....

Holly4459's photo
Mon 12/01/08 05:06 PM
blushing

Nova86's photo
Fri 12/05/08 10:28 AM
holly, i didn't know that you could STILL blush after all of these years LOL

Muddysneakers77's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:09 AM
physical or characteristical feature?

Holly4459's photo
Fri 12/05/08 11:48 AM

holly, i didn't know that you could STILL blush after all of these years LOL


That's Hooley to you Nova!laugh

Nova86's photo
Fri 12/05/08 12:35 PM


holly, i didn't know that you could STILL blush after all of these years LOL


That's Hooley to you Nova!laugh


you know you missed me!!! flowerforyou

HOOLY!!!!

Holly4459's photo
Fri 12/05/08 12:46 PM



holly, i didn't know that you could STILL blush after all of these years LOL


That's Hooley to you Nova!laugh


you know you missed me!!! flowerforyou

HOOLY!!!!


Nova-there is guy working at my library who looks exactly like you!
I had to do a double take! Shirt and everything!noway

Nova86's photo
Sat 12/06/08 10:08 AM




holly, i didn't know that you could STILL blush after all of these years LOL


That's Hooley to you Nova!laugh


you know you missed me!!! flowerforyou

HOOLY!!!!


Nova-there is guy working at my library who looks exactly like you!
I had to do a double take! Shirt and everything!noway


wow.....must be a good-looking guy LOL

YOU FOUND MY LONG LOST TWIN BROTHER, HOOLY!!! laugh laugh

Holly4459's photo
Sat 12/06/08 05:58 PM
I knew he looked familiar NOva!

7z3r05's photo
Sat 12/06/08 06:01 PM

What is it that men find attractive about a woman?


everything from sight to smell

cant quit you b@stards

Holly4459's photo
Sat 12/06/08 07:26 PM
Well-then I give up because I am none of those things!
But thanks for the input...

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Sat 12/06/08 07:48 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Sat 12/06/08 07:49 PM
Everyone has his specific type. I'm a bad example here..because others tell me I'm picky. I'm not picky really, I just feel it, when and can connect immediately to the one I like, those who fall out of this, I just can't help it and I go passive.


I did this online test somewhere, it says for me, my chances are 1 in a million, after doing the personal test there are only 10% of all the people who would be suitable for me. Frickin' Luke Skywalker chance.

Ahh. thanks online test...that made me feel a lot better!