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Topic: Science as a religion
HeadsUp Joined Sun 09/28/08 Posts: 2	Thu 11/27/08 05:13 AM
how would jesus answer that question?

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32402	Thu 11/27/08 07:05 AM
For those who believe the universe is God, it makes sense for science to be a religion. Of course, anyone who believe that God created the universe should be interested in studying God's creation you'd think. People who argue against science in favor of mythology have got to be nuts. The universe was clearly created by God (if you believe in a God). But it's not clear at all that any mythology was ever written by God. On the contrary most mythologies clearly appear to have been written by supersitious men who had agendas. If God wrote anything, it's the universe. If a mythology says one thing, and the universe say something different, you can bet your bottom dollar that the universe is right. I don't think that all mythology was written by men with agendas. I think most mythology is man's attempt to understand God. God is not comprehensible to the human mind so we write stories that humanize him/her to help us understand.

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32402	Thu 11/27/08 07:07 AM
how would jesus answer that question? I don't know. If you do I'd be interested in hearing.

martymark Joined Tue 11/18/08 Posts: 1105	Thu 11/27/08 01:58 PM
He would probobly say something like "why does't thow ask these things of me"? He was a very smart guy, he new when people were trying to entrap him!

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Fri 11/28/08 01:00 PM
and the aspca will never track me down Are you kidding they may want to get that helmet patented and then require that ever pet owner get there cats to wear them for safety!!!!!

Strange Joined Mon 12/08/08 Posts: 153	Mon 12/08/08 07:57 AM
Science is nothing more than the study of forces and matter and what we can observe and measure, it is a system designed to be objective and build upon confirmed therorys or laws until they are demonstarted not be. Nothing more nothing less, religion implies or is defined by a set of morals or beliefs which seems to be concerned with governing the conduct of human beings, science has no such set of rules and anyone can be one, beliefs and requirements which demand obediance to ideas that are unprovable or can not be demonstarted is what science is not. Religion seeks to preserve its ideas at all cost where as science will readily give up an idea proven faulty or unprovable. This is why some scientists are agnostic, this make religious people think that science is anti religion. So they "meaning some religious people" have tried to argue that nothing is provable and therefore science is a belief or religion. Howevr the characteristics of the two are remarkably differant.

Strange Joined Mon 12/08/08 Posts: 153	Mon 12/08/08 08:02 AM
For those who believe the universe is God, it makes sense for science to be a religion. Of course, anyone who believe that God created the universe should be interested in studying God's creation you'd think. People who argue against science in favor of mythology have got to be nuts. The universe was clearly created by God (if you believe in a God). But it's not clear at all that any mythology was ever written by God. On the contrary most mythologies clearly appear to have been written by supersitious men who had agendas. If God wrote anything, it's the universe. If a mythology says one thing, and the universe say something different, you can bet your bottom dollar that the universe is right. I don't think that all mythology was written by men with agendas. I think most mythology is man's attempt to understand God. God is not comprehensible to the human mind so we write stories that humanize him/her to help us understand. I would agree however its beginings do not define its ends, but very early on it was used as a tool to control the conduct of human beings living in socially stratafied societies. Hunter gather stylehuman existance also has religion, however after social starification the rules and codes of governing human conduct are les abstract and more concerned with the ooutcome of making the masses comply. I can demonstrate this.

Ruth34611 Joined Sat 08/02/08 Posts: 32402	Mon 12/08/08 08:04 AM
I would agree however its beginings do not define its ends, but very early on it was used as a tool to control the conduct of human beings living in socially stratafied societies. Hunter gather stylehuman existance also has religion, however after social starification the rules and codes of governing human conduct are les abstract and more concerned with the ooutcome of making the masses comply. I can demonstrate this. No need. I agree completely.

Blaze1978 Joined Tue 03/25/08 Posts: 1281	Fri 12/12/08 08:27 PM Edited by Blaze1978 on Fri 12/12/08 08:28 PM
Is science a religion for some people? What does that even mean? In a thousand years, after the civilizations of the earth have crumbled and men run around in territorial proto-human packs, our only memory of science will be an idol that will be worshiped by many clans. The etymiology of its name will be derived from science or some aspect of science, although none will remember that. Perhaps coincidentally, the actual idol will be 500 feet tall and will be the remnants of the space arm they're supposedly working on after it crashed to the earth midway through the 25th century.

Maikuru Joined Sat 10/11/08 Posts: 177	Sat 12/13/08 01:01 AM
Science as a religion....I would have a hard time buying that one. As of yet I have not seen anyone building temples to Issac Newton, Einstein or anything else associated to the scientific method. However do people place more faith in what science reveals rather than religious texts, this is true. It does not mean however that Science in some way has become a diety or God to them.

scoundrel Joined Thu 07/03/08 Posts: 5960	Sat 12/13/08 01:40 AM
Is science a religion for some people? What does that even mean? The placing of faith in the belief of something that is called scientific can be termed religious. More appropriately, the continuing of holding faith in that science after it has proven to be in error is truly religious, and is also fitting of a loose definition of insanity. I tend to avoid such controversy when persons are using faith in science against faith of other kinds, for neither is provable, and both have very many examples of the faith providing relief and even healing qualities for the believer, in either science or religion.

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Sat 12/20/08 06:20 PM
It is an interesting question. Generally religion involves some sort of worship, and I don't expect there are people who claim to worship science. Then again the same could be said of money. Generally speaking people do not claim to worship money. However, if you consider the concept of worshiping false idols, it is not uncommon for people to say that excessive greed makes money a false idol. This creates an opportunity to make a logical claim that people worship money, and thus that some people believe in the religion of money. The same logic can also be used regarding science. Based upon this thought process I propose that it is possible that there exists a religion of science.

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Sat 12/20/08 06:27 PM
Science as a religion....I would have a hard time buying that one. As of yet I have not seen anyone building temples to Issac Newton, Einstein or anything else associated to the scientific method. However do people place more faith in what science reveals rather than religious texts, this is true. It does not mean however that Science in some way has become a diety or God to them. Just to be difficult, since I do not actually believe this to be true, one could make a claim that our museums are shrines to science.

joad Joined Mon 12/15/08 Posts: 113	Sun 12/21/08 09:09 AM
Is science a religion for some people? What does that even mean? I think both could be said to be models constructed and used in the search for truth. My personal opinion is that problems arise when one invests too much faith in the model its self. There is a popular Buddhist saying making the rounds these days that I believe applies to both sides. "Take care not to confuse the finger pointing at the moon with the moon."

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sun 12/21/08 09:10 AM


SkyHook5652 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 4063	Sun 12/21/08 09:28 AM Edited by SkyHook5652 on Sun 12/21/08 09:29 AM
WWKD http://raincoaster.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/wwkd.jpg Technically, that would be Science Fiction as Religion.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sun 12/21/08 09:31 AM
open your mind remember...

wadsfun Joined Tue 12/16/08 Posts: 34	Tue 12/23/08 10:44 AM
ASK TOM CRUISE he is a scientologist

scorpio90 Joined Sun 12/21/08 Posts: 8481	Tue 12/23/08 10:46 AM
Ever hear the statement " Science is the enemy of religeon." I don't know who said that.

Strange Joined Mon 12/08/08 Posts: 153	Tue 12/30/08 02:27 AM
Science is nothing more than the study of forces and matter and what we can observe and measure, it is a system designed to be objective and build upon confirmed therorys or laws until they are demonstarted not be. Nothing more nothing less, religion implies or is defined by a set of morals or beliefs which seems to be concerned with governing the conduct of human beings, science has no such set of rules and anyone can be one, beliefs and requirements which demand obediance to ideas that are unprovable or can not be demonstarted is what science is not. Religion seeks to preserve its ideas at all cost where as science will readily give up an idea proven faulty or unprovable. This is why some scientists are agnostic, this make religious people think that science is anti religion. So they "meaning some religious people" have tried to argue that nothing is provable and therefore science is a belief or religion. Howevr the characteristics of the two are remarkably differant. ANyone read this? Its over hush.