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Topic: What Happens When America's Airwaves Fill with Hate?
t22learner Joined Mon 07/02/07 Posts: 1774	Sat 11/22/08 06:06 AM
Interesting transcript from "Bill Moyers Journal" on right-wing hate radio. Here's a sample: Michael Reagan, son of the former president, suggested that people who claim that "nine-eleven was an inside job," a U.S. government conspiracy, deserve to die. MICHAEL REAGAN: "Take them out and shoot them. They are traitors to this country, and shoot them. But anybody who would do that doesn't deserve to live. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead. I'll pay for the bullet." Neal Boortz went after victims of Hurricane Katrina. NEAL BOORTZ:"That wasn't the cries of the downtrodden. That's the cries of the useless, the worthless. New Orleans was a welfare city, a city of parasites, a city of people who could not, and had no desire to fend for themselves. You have a hurricane descending on them and they sit on their fat asses and wait for somebody else to come rescue them." http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Sat 11/22/08 06:31 AM
Interesting transcript from "Bill Moyers Journal" on right-wing hate radio. Here's a sample: Michael Reagan, son of the former president, suggested that people who claim that "nine-eleven was an inside job," a U.S. government conspiracy, deserve to die. MICHAEL REAGAN: "Take them out and shoot them. They are traitors to this country, and shoot them. But anybody who would do that doesn't deserve to live. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead. I'll pay for the bullet." Neal Boortz went after victims of Hurricane Katrina. NEAL BOORTZ:"That wasn't the cries of the downtrodden. That's the cries of the useless, the worthless. New Orleans was a welfare city, a city of parasites, a city of people who could not, and had no desire to fend for themselves. You have a hurricane descending on them and they sit on their fat asses and wait for somebody else to come rescue them." http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html I think in the first case...that's showing me...a degree of anger...not hate... In the second case...that's showing me a lesser degree of anger...with a touch of frustration...I read into his remarks this " these people were warned to get out of Dodge, but they chose to stay...they probably felt that it wouldn't be that bad, and their property would be spared "...little did anyone know that the levees would fail...

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 11/22/08 06:40 AM Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/22/08 06:46 AM
Interesting transcript from "Bill Moyers Journal" on right-wing hate radio. Here's a sample: Michael Reagan, son of the former president, suggested that people who claim that "nine-eleven was an inside job," a U.S. government conspiracy, deserve to die. MICHAEL REAGAN: "Take them out and shoot them. They are traitors to this country, and shoot them. But anybody who would do that doesn't deserve to live. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead. I'll pay for the bullet." Neal Boortz went after victims of Hurricane Katrina. NEAL BOORTZ:"That wasn't the cries of the downtrodden. That's the cries of the useless, the worthless. New Orleans was a welfare city, a city of parasites, a city of people who could not, and had no desire to fend for themselves. You have a hurricane descending on them and they sit on their fat asses and wait for somebody else to come rescue them." http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html I think in the first case...that's showing me...a degree of anger...not hate... In the second case...that's showing me a lesser degree of anger...with a touch of frustration...I read into his remarks this " these people were warned to get out of Dodge, but they chose to stay...they probably felt that it wouldn't be that bad, and their property would be spared "...little did anyone know that the levees would fail... Yes!!! Its was only a matter of time. I live in Florida and have seen first hand what these storms can do. The levies have been neglected for years. Even now with all they have done with the right storm will fail again. May be need to look at the 400 plus dams over 100 years old and in the same shape. In Florida our roads are 20 years behind hampering a quick evacuation. You wanna get out leave a week early!!!! As for 911 conspiracy theories will aways be there until proven wrong...I want to add Florida has set the standard for storm response even tho evacuation is so hampered

t22learner Joined Mon 07/02/07 Posts: 1774	Sat 11/22/08 08:48 AM Edited by t22learner on Sat 11/22/08 08:49 AM
I read into his remarks this... Gioc, the context you provide is your interpretation, and I respect it, but what about those listeners without the education or discernment to get beyond the literal words?

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Sat 11/22/08 09:35 AM
IMO - It looks like hate talk to me. It's disgusting.

noblenan Joined Sat 10/06/07 Posts: 935	Sat 11/22/08 10:27 AM
IMO The first statement is just stupid! The second statement is even more stupid. Where did he think these people had to go and how did he think they were going to get there? While New Orleans may have had it's problems, it also had, and has, families who have lived there for generations. They've lived through many hurricanes! Like many of us, they trusted their leaders to maintain the structures and protect them. We should now know from this, and other disasters, that our infrastructure is crumbling. Instead of spending our billions on other countries infrastructures, we need to be focusing on our own.

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/22/08 10:29 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 11/22/08 10:34 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech Lets all quit spreading hate!!! Knowledge will get you farther...

quiet_2008 Joined Sat 08/30/08 Posts: 11138	Sat 11/22/08 10:43 AM
problem is, what's "hate speech" for one side is "justified criticism" for the other side (applying that to both sides of course)

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sat 11/22/08 10:45 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech Lets all quit spreading hate!!! Knowledge will get you farther... you are learning well your wisdom is beyond that of grasshopper

elanher Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 505	Sat 11/22/08 10:58 AM
He has a right to his opinion.

t22learner Joined Mon 07/02/07 Posts: 1774	Sat 11/22/08 11:04 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech I think there's much more "hate" coming out of right-wing radio than in all "liberal" media, but I'm a left-wing liberal elitist.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 11/22/08 11:07 AM Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/22/08 11:07 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech I think there's much more "hate" coming out of right-wing radio than in all "liberal" media, but I'm a left-wing liberal elitist. Are you a Libatard?

t22learner Joined Mon 07/02/07 Posts: 1774	Sat 11/22/08 11:09 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech I think there's much more "hate" coming out of right-wing radio than in all "liberal" media, but I'm a left-wing liberal elitist. Are you a Libatard? As the father of a mentally challenged son, I have to say no...

noblenan Joined Sat 10/06/07 Posts: 935	Sat 11/22/08 11:47 AM
Everybody has a right the their opinion, but there is a difference between stating an opinion and "hate speech". As example, the first speaker could have said that he believed that the conspiracy theorists were completely off base for thinking that our government would have involvement in the events of 911 and site valid reasons why. Rather, he was insulting and threatening to his fellow Americans who most likely believe it their civic duty to question. Basically, IMO, hate speech is the same as bullying.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 11/22/08 11:47 AM
this is why we need the Fairness Doctrine back. So the left has an equal chance to air their hate speech I think there's much more "hate" coming out of right-wing radio than in all "liberal" media, but I'm a left-wing liberal elitist. Are you a Libatard? As the father of a mentally challenged son, I have to say no... Mentally challenged we all are. Just some more than others.

elanher Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 505	Sat 11/22/08 02:18 PM
Everybody has a right the their opinion, but there is a difference between stating an opinion and "hate speech". As example, the first speaker could have said that he believed that the conspiracy theorists were completely off base for thinking that our government would have involvement in the events of 911 and site valid reasons why. Rather, he was insulting and threatening to his fellow Americans who most likely believe it their civic duty to question. Basically, IMO, hate speech is the same as bullying. The only reason anyone pays attention to this douche bag is because he sounds so radical. If he weren't spewing bs, no one would even remember him.

Moondark Joined Tue 11/27/07 Posts: 5866	Sat 11/22/08 02:23 PM
Interesting transcript from "Bill Moyers Journal" on right-wing hate radio. Here's a sample: Michael Reagan, son of the former president, suggested that people who claim that "nine-eleven was an inside job," a U.S. government conspiracy, deserve to die. MICHAEL REAGAN: "Take them out and shoot them. They are traitors to this country, and shoot them. But anybody who would do that doesn't deserve to live. You shoot them. You call them traitors, that's what they are, and you shoot them dead. I'll pay for the bullet." Neal Boortz went after victims of Hurricane Katrina. NEAL BOORTZ:"That wasn't the cries of the downtrodden. That's the cries of the useless, the worthless. New Orleans was a welfare city, a city of parasites, a city of people who could not, and had no desire to fend for themselves. You have a hurricane descending on them and they sit on their fat asses and wait for somebody else to come rescue them." http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09122008/watch.html I think in the first case...that's showing me...a degree of anger...not hate... In the second case...that's showing me a lesser degree of anger...with a touch of frustration...I read into his remarks this " these people were warned to get out of Dodge, but they chose to stay...they probably felt that it wouldn't be that bad, and their property would be spared "...little did anyone know that the levees would fail... I don't agree. The first one is beyond anger. Therefore I would say it is hate. The second one just makes ME angry. Because I immediately think off all the people that were abandoned in nursing homes. They couldn't leave if they wanted to. The people that were supposed to help them get out left them to die. If we are to label all people in nursing homes as useless and say they deserve to die, then why do we bother with nursing homes at all? And what will that man think when he is old and sitting in a nursing home and any sort of natural disaster strikes?

noblenan Joined Sat 10/06/07 Posts: 935	Sat 11/22/08 02:32 PM
Everybody has a right the their opinion, but there is a difference between stating an opinion and "hate speech". As example, the first speaker could have said that he believed that the conspiracy theorists were completely off base for thinking that our government would have involvement in the events of 911 and site valid reasons why. Rather, he was insulting and threatening to his fellow Americans who most likely believe it their civic duty to question. Basically, IMO, hate speech is the same as bullying. The only reason anyone pays attention to this douche bag is because he sounds so radical. If he weren't spewing bs, no one would even remember him. The man who said it was the Conservative Republican son of the most beloved Conservative Republican President in history. He is not considered a "radical douche bag". He is a respected member of the Conservative Movement. Still think no ones going to remember him?

elanher Joined Sat 03/08/08 Posts: 505	Sat 11/22/08 02:51 PM Edited by elanher on Sat 11/22/08 02:52 PM
Everybody has a right the their opinion, but there is a difference between stating an opinion and "hate speech". As example, the first speaker could have said that he believed that the conspiracy theorists were completely off base for thinking that our government would have involvement in the events of 911 and site valid reasons why. Rather, he was insulting and threatening to his fellow Americans who most likely believe it their civic duty to question. Basically, IMO, hate speech is the same as bullying. The only reason anyone pays attention to this douche bag is because he sounds so radical. If he weren't spewing bs, no one would even remember him. The man who said it was the Conservative Republican son of the most beloved Conservative Republican President in history. He is not considered a "radical douche bag". He is a respected member of the Conservative Movement. Still think no ones going to remember him? I know who he is. He may not be considered a radical douche bag, but in my opinion he is along with the ones who respect him.