Topic: The Rapture Can't Happen Soon Enough to Suit Me
madisonman's photo
Thu 11/06/08 06:18 AM
As an atheist and a skeptic, I try to limit my magical thinking to occasional moments of vanity and revenge. But lately I’ve found myself wishing that if the Rapture is on the level, it would happen soon . . . I mean real soon.

The Rapture is the name given to a future event in which Jesus descends from heaven and gathers up all Christian fundamentalists [a.k.a. Christian Right] and swooshes them up bodily to heaven, but not before they’ve jettisoned their clothes and jewelry and all forms of prostheses, including pompadour hairpieces and inflatable bouffant support bladders.


Before I get too far into this, I want it understood that I’m not wishing these folks ill. On the contrary, I’m wishing them what they’ve always wanted—an eternity of enjoying the unchallenged moral certitude they were never quite able to fully enjoy here on Earth, but which nonetheless caused the rest of us no end of misery.

The signs for finally seeing the backside of the Christian Right are encouraging. According to raptureready.com, the Rapture Index (omens portending the Rapture) stands at 163, the highest it’s been since September 11, 2001 when it peaked at its all-time high of 182. I don’t know what the numbers mean either. But I’m not making this up.

It appears Jesus is getting his transition team in place, what with the recent raptures—albeit by conventional means—of the Rev. D. James Kennedy, godfather of the American Dominionist [a.k.a. theofascist] movement and hater of our secular constitution, and the Rev. Jerry Falwell, founder of the Moral Majority and hater of all people he could think of to hate.

I do wish the Lord would get his jesters assembled and move on this. Think what the Rapture will mean to those of us left behind.

Twenty-three percent of the 208 million adults in America identify themselves as either Pentecostal or Charismatic Christians [a.k.a. Rapture-ready]. In the event of the Rapture up to 50 million workers will be leaving their jobs without clocking out. The number of positions vacated will be five times as many needed to wipe out the country’s unemployment, leaving the rest of us in a workers’ paradise. Affirmative action be damned! It’s “trickle up” economics at work here.

Not only will our career paths be enhanced, but we’ll have a chance at longer, healthier lives by taking the untold billons of dollars President Bush is currently funneling into the Christian Right’s faith-based coffers to save “Americans one soul at a time" and reallocating them to stem cell research and universal health care, which will save considerably more of an American than just his or her ethereal soul.

Along with vocational upgrades and improved health, we’ll no longer have to wonder, “is our kids learning?” High school grads having trouble gaining admission to one of our over-crowded universities will have immediate access to the vacant desks—and possibly iPods—left by the tens of thousands of Rapture-ready students attending America’s 102 “Christ-centered” colleges, which will be under new management and begging for warm bodies.

And guys, speaking of warm bodies, the universities will be flush with coeds since far fewer teenage girls will be home taking care of their babies—there were 435,000 teen mothers last year. The hundreds of millions of federal dollars spent annually on abstinence-only sex education [a.k.a. religious dogma] in our public high schools will now fund comprehensive sex education programs that promote safe and effective birth control methods. Let’s face it. It was only the Christian Right who thought hormone-pumped primates would ever stop “doing it.”

By the way, do I even need to mention that with the Rapture-ready blissfully ensconced behind the pearly gates the rest of us will be left in peace to enjoy our bedrooms and our most personal intimate relationships on our own terms?

Unarguably though, the highlight of the Rapture will be finding out which of the “born-again” politicians are left on the ground. Unless someone has been lying to the American people—perish the thought—we stand to lose 48 Senators, 186 Representatives, four Supreme Court justices, seven presidential hopefuls, and one hopeless president.

If it turns out—highly unlikely though it is— that the 2008 presidential frontrunners of both parties are missing on Rapture-plus-one, we’ll enjoy the remaining election season with candidates who’ve always been willing to talk about more substantive issues than their most recent meet and greet with the Lord. The God-talk will be in heaven where it belongs.

Consider this . . . with a smile. If the Democrats with Dennis Kucinich and Al Gore—we can talk him into it—or the Greens with Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader can’t defeat the unraptured and unrepentant Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani on their own merits, we’ll now own the Supreme Court.

There is a downside. We know damn-good-and-well who’ll be sitting at his Oval Office desk with a “fooled you again” smirk on his mug on Rapture-plus-one. But keep in mind, we’ll still have Section 4 of Article II of the Constitution and we’ll have the votes and we’ll have the prison. Keep in mind also, gods mostly help those who help themselves.

Having imagined all the above, my thinking is not so magical as to believe there won’t be a few post-Rapture problems. After all, according to Revelations this will be the time of the Great Tribulation and we’ll still have Satan [a.k.a. your choice] to wrestle with. But with the Christian Right enjoying eternity . . . well . . . who cares where, we’ll have only one Devil in the ring at a time. And he’ll be the one carrying a pitchfork not a Bible.


http://www.opednews.com/articles/1/opedne_robert_w_080119_the_rapture_can_t_ha.htm

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Thu 11/06/08 07:36 AM
I don't see the point in posts like this. Not all Christians are bad, and not all atheists are good. Neither can claim a moral high-ground... yet posts like this make it seem like atheists are better somehow. I don't get it?

madisonman's photo
Thu 11/06/08 07:48 AM
Brain candy and humor is all. I felt it was worth shareing.

splendidlife's photo
Thu 11/06/08 07:55 AM
Edited by splendidlife on Thu 11/06/08 07:57 AM
Funny Piece...

Here's an interesting response from that same website made by a reporter named Eileen Fleming:



The Escapist theology of the 'Left Behinder's' in NOT Biblically based.

It's on the same par as the FEW Muslims who believe they are going to get all those virgins by blowing themselves and others up.

The term 'Christian' was not even coined until the days of Paul, about 3 decades after Jesus walked the earth a man.

Jesus was NEVER a Christian!

Jesus was a social, justice, radical revolutionary Palestinian devout Jewish road warrior who rose up and challenged the job security of the Temple authorities by teaching the people they did NOT need to pay the priests for ritual baths or sacrificing livestock to be OK with God; for God already LOVED them just as they were:

Sinners, poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Military Occupation.

What got Jesus crucified was disturbing the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces of his time, by teaching the subversive concept that Caesar only had power because God allowed it and that God preferred the humble sinner, the poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Occupation above the elite and arrogant.

The early followers and lovers of Jesus were called members of THE WAY-being THE WAY he taught one should be; Nonviolent, a Peacemaker and one who did the will of the Father .

"What does God require? He has told you o'man! Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord." -Micah 6:8

Jesus remained NONVIOLENT and forgiving even while being mocked, whipped and nailed to a cross and he promised that it is the Peacemakers who are the children of God, not the peace-talkers and NOT those who bomb, torture or occupy others.

2,000 years ago The Cross had NO symbolic religious meaning.

When Jesus said: "Pick up your cross and follow me."

He was issuing a POLITICAL statement, for the main roads in Jerusalem were lined with crucified agitators, rebels, dissidents and any others who disturbed the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces.

A lot of what passes for Christianity in the USA is an abomination.


Eileen Fleming,
Reporter and Editor WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/


madisonman's photo
Thu 11/06/08 04:46 PM

Funny Piece...

Here's an interesting response from that same website made by a reporter named Eileen Fleming:



The Escapist theology of the 'Left Behinder's' in NOT Biblically based.

It's on the same par as the FEW Muslims who believe they are going to get all those virgins by blowing themselves and others up.

The term 'Christian' was not even coined until the days of Paul, about 3 decades after Jesus walked the earth a man.

Jesus was NEVER a Christian!

Jesus was a social, justice, radical revolutionary Palestinian devout Jewish road warrior who rose up and challenged the job security of the Temple authorities by teaching the people they did NOT need to pay the priests for ritual baths or sacrificing livestock to be OK with God; for God already LOVED them just as they were:

Sinners, poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Military Occupation.

What got Jesus crucified was disturbing the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces of his time, by teaching the subversive concept that Caesar only had power because God allowed it and that God preferred the humble sinner, the poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Occupation above the elite and arrogant.

The early followers and lovers of Jesus were called members of THE WAY-being THE WAY he taught one should be; Nonviolent, a Peacemaker and one who did the will of the Father .

"What does God require? He has told you o'man! Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord." -Micah 6:8

Jesus remained NONVIOLENT and forgiving even while being mocked, whipped and nailed to a cross and he promised that it is the Peacemakers who are the children of God, not the peace-talkers and NOT those who bomb, torture or occupy others.

2,000 years ago The Cross had NO symbolic religious meaning.

When Jesus said: "Pick up your cross and follow me."

He was issuing a POLITICAL statement, for the main roads in Jerusalem were lined with crucified agitators, rebels, dissidents and any others who disturbed the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces.

A lot of what passes for Christianity in the USA is an abomination.


Eileen Fleming,
Reporter and Editor WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/


can you elaborate a little this sounds interesting

tribo's photo
Thu 11/06/08 05:25 PM
personally, most here know i believe the rapture and judgement and all else were meant for and took place before or by AD 70 with the destruction of jerusalem and specifically the temple.

outside of that though, if by chance i am wrong, jesus was christ[reedemer]to those who beleived - he was the first christ[ian] so to say, and is why that term was dubbed later by those who followed. the rest of Eileen's article is conjecture. not even jocephus had mentioned anything of this as she speaks.


no photo
Thu 11/06/08 07:44 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh

Funny article. But lets not get our hopes up. laugh laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 11/06/08 07:49 PM
:smile: They better hope theres a rapture before the Draconians take over this planet in full force.:smile:

toreybelle's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:11 PM

Brain candy and humor is all. I felt it was worth shareing.


O.K.!!!!what what whathmmmmmmmm

Not sure how I feel....Just glad (I hope) to be going up in the rapture!!!

madisonman's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:17 PM


Brain candy and humor is all. I felt it was worth shareing.


O.K.!!!!what what whathmmmmmmmm

Not sure how I feel....Just glad (I hope) to be going up in the rapture!!!
can I have you car?:wink:

toreybelle's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:23 PM



Brain candy and humor is all. I felt it was worth shareing.


O.K.!!!!what what whathmmmmmmmm

Not sure how I feel....Just glad (I hope) to be going up in the rapture!!!
can I have you car?:wink:

It's a Sanata!!!

SharpShooter10's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:23 PM
Edited by SharpShooter10 on Thu 11/06/08 08:34 PM
There will be no Rapture, To me, it is a false teaching and doctrine. No Christians will be flying away . Christians will be needed here to witness against the anti, or instead of christ that will be here first, when christ returns we will all be in spiritual bodies at that time, so if someone is performing what seems to be miracles and claiming to be Christ, pinch yourself, if you feel it, you are still in the flesh and not a spiritual body. The anti christ will be a sneaky character and fool many people. he won't be red with horns and a pointed tail. He will look just like a person except will be super natural, if you get taken away or so called raptured at that time, you will be being decieved



or beamed up by the draconians laugh

SharpShooter10's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:39 PM


Funny Piece...

Here's an interesting response from that same website made by a reporter named Eileen Fleming:



The Escapist theology of the 'Left Behinder's' in NOT Biblically based.

It's on the same par as the FEW Muslims who believe they are going to get all those virgins by blowing themselves and others up.

The term 'Christian' was not even coined until the days of Paul, about 3 decades after Jesus walked the earth a man.

Jesus was NEVER a Christian!

Jesus was a social, justice, radical revolutionary Palestinian devout Jewish road warrior who rose up and challenged the job security of the Temple authorities by teaching the people they did NOT need to pay the priests for ritual baths or sacrificing livestock to be OK with God; for God already LOVED them just as they were:

Sinners, poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Military Occupation.

What got Jesus crucified was disturbing the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces of his time, by teaching the subversive concept that Caesar only had power because God allowed it and that God preferred the humble sinner, the poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under Roman Occupation above the elite and arrogant.

The early followers and lovers of Jesus were called members of THE WAY-being THE WAY he taught one should be; Nonviolent, a Peacemaker and one who did the will of the Father .

"What does God require? He has told you o'man! Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord." -Micah 6:8

Jesus remained NONVIOLENT and forgiving even while being mocked, whipped and nailed to a cross and he promised that it is the Peacemakers who are the children of God, not the peace-talkers and NOT those who bomb, torture or occupy others.

2,000 years ago The Cross had NO symbolic religious meaning.

When Jesus said: "Pick up your cross and follow me."

He was issuing a POLITICAL statement, for the main roads in Jerusalem were lined with crucified agitators, rebels, dissidents and any others who disturbed the status quo of the Roman Occupying Forces.

A lot of what passes for Christianity in the USA is an abomination.


Eileen Fleming,
Reporter and Editor WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/


can you elaborate a little this sounds interesting
The Romans ordered it, the so called religious leaders of the time caused it to happen and the ones in the crowd shouting "crucify him" were more than likely Kenites, or descendants of cain, they are still around as well. The famine of the end times as spoken in Revelations will not be for food, but for the word of God.

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Thu 11/06/08 08:43 PM

There will be no Rapture, To me, it is a false teaching and doctrine. No Christians will be flying away .


We can only hope... :wink:

Christians will be needed here to witness against the anti, or instead of christ that will be here first, when christ returns we will all be in spiritual bodies at that time, so if someone is performing what seems to be miracles and claiming to be Christ, pinch yourself, if you feel it, you are still in the flesh and not a spiritual body. The anti christ will be a sneaky character and fool many people. he won't be red with horns and a pointed tail. He will look just like a person except will be super natural, if you get taken away or so called raptured at that time, you will be being decieved



or beamed up by the draconians laugh


Maybe the "rapture" is the beaming up by the draconians. You only think you are being raptured, instead you are beamed up strait to their food storage compartment on the mother ship. laugh laugh

SharpShooter10's photo
Thu 11/06/08 08:49 PM


There will be no Rapture, To me, it is a false teaching and doctrine. No Christians will be flying away .


We can only hope... :wink:

Christians will be needed here to witness against the anti, or instead of christ that will be here first, when christ returns we will all be in spiritual bodies at that time, so if someone is performing what seems to be miracles and claiming to be Christ, pinch yourself, if you feel it, you are still in the flesh and not a spiritual body. The anti christ will be a sneaky character and fool many people. he won't be red with horns and a pointed tail. He will look just like a person except will be super natural, if you get taken away or so called raptured at that time, you will be being decieved



or beamed up by the draconians laugh


Maybe the "rapture" is the beaming up by the draconians. You only think you are being raptured, instead you are beamed up strait to their food storage compartment on the mother ship. laugh laugh
that'll drop some jaws then wont laugh it?laugh i'm having a time getting use to this laptop, keeping touching things that make everything go "poof" perhaps cyber war from the mother ship

d3vi1d06's photo
Thu 11/06/08 10:13 PM
according to the bible only 144,000 souls will sign in with st peter at the pearly gates. I don't like standing in lines.

d3vi1d06's photo
Thu 11/06/08 10:15 PM


Brain candy and humor is all. I felt it was worth shareing.


O.K.!!!!what what whathmmmmmmmm

Not sure how I feel....Just glad (I hope) to be going up in the rapture!!!


yeah you hope. so you spent your whole life trying t get in with 144k people? the odds are against you.

tribo's photo
Thu 11/06/08 11:00 PM
Edited by tribo on Thu 11/06/08 11:34 PM
D3, if your talking of the 144K in revelations those are the jews - read after what it says:



9 """" After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, >>>which no man could number<<<,

of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;""""





10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 ¶ And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.


there are an uncountable amount of people that come out of the tribulation with the explanation of who they are. the 144k is a false teaching of what the book actually says in context. those of the mormons and J.Witness, etc..