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Topic: Gnostic Christians?
REDGIRL67's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:50 PM
Are their any fellow Gnostic Christians here?

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:56 PM
what in the hell is gnostic christianity? you people and creating denominations. what does your religion believe in that is so different than all the other denomations?

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Wed 11/05/08 06:57 PM
what does gnostic mean?

grneyedldy1967's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:09 PM
Yeah what is it.. the new religion Oprah is starting up?

Ruth34611's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:10 PM
Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:10 PM
I guess she's the only one

d3vi1d06's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:12 PM

Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me

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Wed 11/05/08 07:12 PM
Gnostic Christianity is a Way of Life based on the original teachings of Jesus Christ. A gnostic is a person who believes that salvation is gained through the acquisition of divine knowledge or gnosis. Gnostic Christians believe that the knowledge necessary for salvation has been revealed through Jesus Christ. Gnostics recognize that this world is subject to powers of darkness that distort our concept of reality. As Jesus explained, "The shadows of this world are perceived by mortals, and they think they know the Truth, but the Reality which casts the shadows is hidden from them, and they do not perceive the Light." (Sayings 2:2)

When gnostics speak of salvation, they mean being freed from these illusions of darkness so that they can perceive Reality. As Jesus said, "I tell you the truth when I say that only when you perceive shadows as shadows, and search the Light, will you perceive the Reality which is God." (IBID.) He also said, "If you continue to acquire gnosis through me and live by the principles I teach, you will be my true disciples. Then you will learn of Truth, and Truth will set you free." (Testimony of St. John 8:31-32)

While Jesus used symbolic parables to motivate his hearers to search for the knowledge of Truth, he privately entrusted to his disciples gnosis, experiential knowledge which they could share only with those who became their fellow disciples. On one occasion, Jesus said to his disciples,

It is your privilege to learn the mysteries of the realm of the Eloheim because you have entered the Covenant," Jesus replied, "but to those who remain outside the Covenant, Truth can be shown only in parables. This is because they live in a world of illusions and shadows where Truth is hidden from them. Only the shadow of Truth can reach them until they reject the lie and come into the Covenant of Light." *** In this way, Jesus used many parables to point their minds to the word, for the parables were all they were able to receive, but through the parables, some of them would have their minds opened and would begin to perceive the Inner Truth. When he was alone with his disciples, however, Jesus expounded these principles, unfolding before their minds greater Light and carrying them deeper into the mysteries of the spiritual realm. (Testimony of St. Mark 4:10-11, 26-27)


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Wed 11/05/08 07:13 PM
Google is your friend.

I am not a gnostic christian, btw.

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Wed 11/05/08 07:14 PM


Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou

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Wed 11/05/08 07:18 PM



Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....

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Wed 11/05/08 07:20 PM




Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....


No actually he said, "you people and creating denominations" in addition to his question. And, the way you asked your question was equally condescending.

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Wed 11/05/08 07:21 PM
Where does (Sayings 2:2) come from? Shalom..Miles

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Wed 11/05/08 07:24 PM
Edited by grneyedldy1967 on Wed 11/05/08 07:26 PM





Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....

No actually he said, "you people and creating denominations" in addition to his question. And, the way you asked your question was equally condescending.

I was actually being quite serious because I have heard about her starting up some new religion. If I was being condescending it was only because you took it that way. Not sure if I should apologize since that was not my intentions....


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Wed 11/05/08 07:26 PM






Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....

I was actually being quite serious because I have heard about her starting up some new religion. If I was being condescending it was only because you took it that way. Not sure if I should apologize since that was not my intentions....

No actually he said, "you people and creating denominations" in addition to his question. And, the way you asked your question was equally condescending.



Sorry if I took it the wrong way. flowerforyou

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Wed 11/05/08 07:29 PM







Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....

I was actually being quite serious because I have heard about her starting up some new religion. If I was being condescending it was only because you took it that way. Not sure if I should apologize since that was not my intentions....

No actually he said, "you people and creating denominations" in addition to his question. And, the way you asked your question was equally condescending.



Sorry if I took it the wrong way. flowerforyou


flowerforyou

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Wed 11/05/08 07:29 PM





Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....


No actually he said, "you people and creating denominations" in addition to his question. And, the way you asked your question was equally condescending.


yeah because denominations just appear out of thin air. the " you people and creating denominations", comment refers to the fact that within one religion there are many sects that believe in the same thing just worded differently. that's all I was saying. and the me asking about the religion part was due to my curiousity of the human mind to believe in something so much, that they completely devote every apect of their existance to pursuing more knowledge.

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Wed 11/05/08 07:32 PM
If you're talking about Christianity, the different denominations did not just appear out of thin air, nor do most of them believe the same thing just worded differently. They all may have the same core belief in Jesus being God who came to save man, but after that their beliefs and practices differ quite a bit.

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Wed 11/05/08 07:36 PM





Actually, Gnosticism is as old as Christianity. It's not new at all.


well its new to me


well then maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about. flowerforyou


Hmmm I think he was only asking a question.. just as I was. That's what you're supposed to do when you don't know what something is....


No actually he said, "you people and creating denominations" in addition to his question. And, the way you asked your question was equally condescending.
drinker drinker Here, Here, thank youflowers and I do believe my question was, "Are their any other Gnostic Christians here?" Obviously you both are not, so why waste everyone's time by being condescending, nasty and swear at me when I wasn't even talking to you? Thank you to all others who haven't been nasty. I'm a good Christian woman so I am going to hold my head high and take the high road, it's what Jesus would want me to doflowers

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Wed 11/05/08 07:42 PM
I don't consider myself religious. I am Spiritual though. I actually don't believe in "organized" religion

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