Topic: can a friend.....
catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 06:02 AM


make a awesome lover????




Y?????


The only people I ever even consider as lovers.

If you know everything about a person and still wish to be their lover, then you know you have something truly special.

Love is not finding the perfect person. Love is finding an imperfect person and perceiving them as perfect.


OOOOOOO good answer!!
and u know this at such a young age too!!

nobody is really perfect...but to find somebody that loves how you are...mind and soul..AND body...what a GIFT!!!

no photo
Thu 10/30/08 06:48 AM


Friends are off limits....

Now friends of friends, look out.


now wouldnt you make an exception for a "specail" friend.

if u meet an attractive woman....would u rather seduce her first...or carry on a conversation???


I dont keep special friends or F*ck buddies

either your my friend or we have a relationship.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 06:56 AM



Friends are off limits....

Now friends of friends, look out.


now wouldnt you make an exception for a "specail" friend.

if u meet an attractive woman....would u rather seduce her first...or carry on a conversation???


I dont keep special friends or F*ck buddies

either your my friend or we have a relationship.


oooo..I just meant u know how would u prefer a good relationship to start??

seems sometimes people overlook their friends, when perhaps that could be the best relationship.


toreybelle's photo
Thu 10/30/08 07:01 AM
I allowed my best friend to become my lover for 8 months....and then circumstances put us "off limits" to the "lover" part of the rel. but we have for over 2 yrs. remained "best friends" It was soooooooooo hard at first........but faced with losing my lover and my best friend I chose to deal with the awkwardness and keep my bestfriend. We still see each other every couple of months and go out to dinner, go to concerts, to the casino, watch movies etc.....and we talk every single day on the phone. I am very lucky in that I did NOT Lose my best friend. Doesn't usually work that way.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 08:30 AM

I allowed my best friend to become my lover for 8 months....and then circumstances put us "off limits" to the "lover" part of the rel. but we have for over 2 yrs. remained "best friends" It was soooooooooo hard at first........but faced with losing my lover and my best friend I chose to deal with the awkwardness and keep my bestfriend. We still see each other every couple of months and go out to dinner, go to concerts, to the casino, watch movies etc.....and we talk every single day on the phone. I am very lucky in that I did NOT Lose my best friend. Doesn't usually work that way.


ya, that is probably what happens to many friends that turn into lovers. and it is certainly sad..cause in most cases the two invovled probably dont remain friends. Im glad in your case that you did.

JUST because you are good friends...doesnt always mean that a long term realtionship could blossum out of that.

lots of dynamics in a realtionship...and although friendship is required..its not the only thing that is needed to sustain it.

Austinguy189's photo
Thu 10/30/08 01:03 PM



make a awesome lover????




Y?????


The only people I ever even consider as lovers.

If you know everything about a person and still wish to be their lover, then you know you have something truly special.

Love is not finding the perfect person. Love is finding an imperfect person and perceiving them as perfect.




OOOOOOO good answer!!
and u know this at such a young age too!!

nobody is really perfect...but to find somebody that loves how you are...mind and soul..AND body...what a GIFT!!!



Exactly. So if that indeed is what you have in your life right now, don't let it pass. That's once in a lifetime, kitty.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 01:31 PM




make a awesome lover????




Y?????


The only people I ever even consider as lovers.

If you know everything about a person and still wish to be their lover, then you know you have something truly special.

Love is not finding the perfect person. Love is finding an imperfect person and perceiving them as perfect.




OOOOOOO good answer!!
and u know this at such a young age too!!

nobody is really perfect...but to find somebody that loves how you are...mind and soul..AND body...what a GIFT!!!



Exactly. So if that indeed is what you have in your life right now, don't let it pass. That's once in a lifetime, kitty.


thank you!! flowerforyou flowerforyou its not an easy thing to find...a very good friend that also instills SO much passion inside your heart.
a person that finds that is truly blessed.

Tazz42's photo
Thu 10/30/08 01:56 PM
Yes it's true!
I have had a "Best Friend" for over 20 years and we dated in High School.....but now we are inseperable. We share all our laughs and cries.

The man I am with now has been my other Best Friend for over 3 years and I wouldn't have it any other way!

The real question here is:
Can men and women be friends or Best Friends?

There is a pre-consieved notion in our society that the opposite sex cannot be friends due to the sexual stigma involved......

catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 02:48 PM
that is a good question.

I tihnk its hard for men and women to be friends. If not because almost every man Ive ever been friends with...usually ends up wanting more. Ive seen it happen in other situations with other people. cheating occurs, and all kinds of things.

I tihnk if men and women are going to be just friends...there needs to be "distance" between them.

personally I dont want to be emotionally and physically attached to one man.



Pete026's photo
Thu 10/30/08 02:54 PM

The real question here is:
Can men and women be friends or Best Friends?

There is a pre-consieved notion in our society that the opposite sex cannot be friends due to the sexual stigma involved......


I believe it's possible. One of my bestest friends is a woman - we flirt, but I know nothing would ever come of it.

NewMingle's photo
Thu 10/30/08 03:14 PM


The real question here is:
Can men and women be friends or Best Friends?

There is a pre-consieved notion in our society that the opposite sex cannot be friends due to the sexual stigma involved......


I believe it's possible. One of my bestest friends is a woman - we flirt, but I know nothing would ever come of it.

Until...
drinker
oops
winking

NewMingle's photo
Thu 10/30/08 03:18 PM
Personally, I'd feel WAY more comfortable dating a girl who I was friends with first.

So many people seem to do it the other way around... hit the sack, and then figure out if they are even compatible as friends!

I dunno... personally I think there's a lot MORE merit and honor with the former, compared to the latter. winking

I also seem to be nearly alone in that perception...grumble

Austinguy189's photo
Thu 10/30/08 03:49 PM

Yes it's true!
I have had a "Best Friend" for over 20 years and we dated in High School.....but now we are inseperable. We share all our laughs and cries.

The man I am with now has been my other Best Friend for over 3 years and I wouldn't have it any other way!

The real question here is:
Can men and women be friends or Best Friends?

There is a pre-consieved notion in our society that the opposite sex cannot be friends due to the sexual stigma involved......


Only if both parties involved are mature enough to handle such a friendship. I have five best friends. All girls. One of which I dated in high school, but now we don't really talk very much. Only because we're too busy. I still know her better than anyone else ever will.

And out of those five girls, there is only one of which I would even begin to consider moving the relationship onto a romantic level. Another one of them is married, even.

My life's experience is proof enough that it's not only possible, but happens often.

toreybelle's photo
Thu 10/30/08 03:51 PM

Personally, I'd feel WAY more comfortable dating a girl who I was friends with first.

So many people seem to do it the other way around... hit the sack, and then figure out if they are even compatible as friends!

I dunno... personally I think there's a lot MORE merit and honor with the former, compared to the latter. winking

I also seem to be nearly alone in that perception...grumble


I have to agree with you there!!! whole-heartedly!!!

Austinguy189's photo
Thu 10/30/08 03:54 PM

Personally, I'd feel WAY more comfortable dating a girl who I was friends with first.

So many people seem to do it the other way around... hit the sack, and then figure out if they are even compatible as friends!

I dunno... personally I think there's a lot MORE merit and honor with the former, compared to the latter. winking

I also seem to be nearly alone in that perception...grumble


I personally think that it's equal merit. A friendship is just as important and personable as a relationship. A real friendship that is.

Now if what you're refering to is an acquaintance, then I completely agree.

So many people nowadays use the word friendship so loosly. The love in a friendship is just as pure and true as one in a 50 year long marraige.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 04:15 PM
so i guess why I originally posted this becasue a true friend is very rare. A friend is somebody you open your heart to and share moments with..little and big moments. somebody that when you know they are sad or something is up...you call them and talk about it untill they feel better. and they do the same. someone you both love and respect all the time.

now for me..in my life I can maybe count on one hand "TRUE friends"

some people I belive dont seek this closer connection and would fill their lives with many aquantinces. (which doesnt exactly leave time left to do the things it takes to cement friendship)

so it crossed my mind...that if you had what you considered a true freind...this is one steep into a deeper very satisfying, more loving relationship.

Austinguy189's photo
Thu 10/30/08 06:35 PM

so i guess why I originally posted this becasue a true friend is very rare. A friend is somebody you open your heart to and share moments with..little and big moments. somebody that when you know they are sad or something is up...you call them and talk about it untill they feel better. and they do the same. someone you both love and respect all the time.

now for me..in my life I can maybe count on one hand "TRUE friends"

some people I belive dont seek this closer connection and would fill their lives with many aquantinces. (which doesnt exactly leave time left to do the things it takes to cement friendship)

so it crossed my mind...that if you had what you considered a true freind...this is one steep into a deeper very satisfying, more loving relationship.


Exactly. But it doesn't necessarily have to go on to the step of a relationship. The friendship of a true friend could never step up to a deeper, more satisfying love. It's already completely pure and true. A romantic relationship is different, yes. But not necessarily deeper nd more satisfying. And certainly not more loving.

catwoman96's photo
Thu 10/30/08 07:13 PM
I would think that the deepest connection that exists between people is through falling in love.
and I would also think that If it was true love it would be as open and honest as I would be with someone I have been friends with for years.

I think really the majority of the problem in this is that people build walls around themselves. and many times feelings and emotions are withheld. and sometimes it is easier to share things with a friend than it is to share things with somebody you have romantic feelings for.

it all takes time. the process is gradual. and perhaps should not be rushed.

but i do believe it is important to view your lover as a friend also. perhaps when this does nbot happen or stops happening is where cheating starts to occur.



unsure's photo
Thu 10/30/08 07:27 PM
I would never risk the friendship! A true friend is so hard to find, so I would rather keep that and go find a lover somewhere else.
What would happen if things didn't work out between you? Then things would become strange on the "friendship" part. So I would never risk loosing a friend to take it a step up in the relationship...only because you might loose him both ways!!

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Thu 10/30/08 08:00 PM
I've done the trial run on the FWB routine. What happens is true feelings and emotions usually creep in and urge a deeper commitment. Then you're either in it for the long haul or you lose another friend. Been there, done that.