Topic: Hope
Winx's photo
Fri 10/31/08 05:33 PM

Too young for JFK's death but do remember Bobby's and MLK's..:(


I remember my mom crying and all the adults were so upset.

Winx's photo
Fri 10/31/08 05:36 PM

And now I see why alot of people who want to vote for Obama have the desire to "alienate" those who wish that God was back in the equation. But ah yes......those few carpet munching liberals who, butthole pleasure seekers, and radical environmentalists will have none of that. Yeah, let's fear God cause the Christians want to tell us what to do. Let's "alienate" those who believe in Christianity and make them feel like utter s*it, cause in all honesty, that is what has happened in this country.

Just because someone wants this doesn't mean they stupid or are politically ignorant. I mean, if you are an agnostic, fine. Cool with me. If you worship Casper the Friendly ghost, have at it. Your right to worship God, any God, or not any God. But because someone holds a belief in the Christian God, and truly wants God back into the equation...you are gonna blast them for it?

I love it when morons say the whole "Seperation of Church and State" and do not know what it means. Read the damn Constitution! And, if this offended anyone....suck my balls.


shocked

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 11/01/08 12:03 AM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 11/01/08 12:42 AM

I stated the "Christian" God in my post, which is who Feral was referring to, and who alot of people refer to when they do say the word "God".

:smile:(I dont believe in the "Christian God". I believe in THE G-D.My god is the god of the universe and HE has no limits.):smile:

But let me explain something about "Seperation of Church and State". No where does it state that you have to leave your beliefs or your morals out of a decision that you make....because to do so would be just about impossible to do.

laugh (Nobody said it did except you.)laugh

If you believe that abortion is wrong, you vote against it. Simple as that.

huh (Then whats your problem?Simple as that)huh

Majority of people who feel abortion is wrong have a moral objection to it. That is how it is, and how it will be.

spock(So what? People have moral objections to a lot of stuff like war,poverty,divorce,etc.):smile:

And yes, it will be based upon a religious belief. I just don't get why people who don't understand that want those who have this belief to suspend it in favor of "Seperation of Church and State".

spock(The issue of abortion has nothing to do with "seperation of church and state."Its a medical issue.And the people that "dont understand" just want "those who have this belief" to "suspend" their mind their own business.):laughing:


Cause, they are taking what that means out of context.

:laughing:(Something you seem to know about.):laughing:


Even in our pledge we say...."One Nation...Under God".

spock(Added a few decades ago)spock

Alot of our leaders will lead based on their beliefs.

shades(They actually lead based on the Constitution.)shades

It is just how things are.

:laughing:(Not on this planet):laughing:

Let me also say that I do not, in anyway, want to tell a liberal who doesn't see things my way that they are wrong for believing what they believe.

rofl(You just did.)rofl

I came off to harsh in my rant, so I apologize for that.

slaphead(If you didnt say anything wrong,why are you apoligizing?):laughing:

But, my emphasis is that you need to allow people to vote who they feel lead to vote.

spock(You didnt mention voting until now,so you didnt do a very good job emphasising it.And who isnt allowing people to vote the way they feel lead to vote?)spock



Okay...I am done.

rofl(fantastic)rofl




MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 11/01/08 12:07 AM



And now I see why alot of people who want to vote for Obama have the desire to "alienate" those who wish that God was back in the equation. But ah yes......those few carpet munching liberals who, butthole pleasure seekers, and radical environmentalists will have none of that. Yeah, let's fear God cause the Christians want to tell us what to do. Let's "alienate" those who believe in Christianity and make them feel like utter s*it, cause in all honesty, that is what has happened in this country.

Just because someone wants this doesn't mean they stupid or are politically ignorant. I mean, if you are an agnostic, fine. Cool with me. If you worship Casper the Friendly ghost, have at it. Your right to worship God, any God, or not any God. But because someone holds a belief in the Christian God, and truly wants God back into the equation...you are gonna blast them for it?

I love it when morons say the whole "Seperation of Church and State" and do not know what it means. Read the damn Constitution! And, if this offended anyone....suck my balls.


Liberals are Christians too!


It's my rant...I can say what I want.laugh laugh laugh
laugh So can Ilaugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 11/01/08 12:21 AM

And now I see why alot of people who want to vote for Obama have the desire to "alienate" those who wish that God was back in the equation.

huh(Is this something you see only in your mind?)laugh

But ah yes......those few carpet munching liberals who, butthole pleasure seekers, and radical environmentalists will have none of that.

spock(Whats wrong with gays,lesbians, and enviromentalists?Is your god scared?)spock

Yeah, let's fear God cause the Christians want to tell us what to do.

shades(Your supposed to fear G-D. And I dont know any REAL followers of the Chosen One that are telling people what to do.)shades

Let's "alienate" those who believe in Christianity and make them feel like utter s*it, cause in all honesty, that is what has happened in this country.

slaphead(Your the only one I see "alienating".And why are you bashing Christians and America?):laughing:

Just because someone wants this doesn't mean they stupid or are politically ignorant.

:laughing:(Which are you?):laughing:

I mean, if you are an agnostic, fine. Cool with me.

bigsmile(Agnostics dont need your permission but thanks anyway)bigsmile


If you worship Casper the Friendly ghost, have at it. Your right to worship God, any God, or not any God. But because someone holds a belief in the Christian God, and truly wants God back into the equation...you are gonna blast them for it?

:smile:(The One True G-D is mightier than the "Christian God".And if its possible to take your god out of "the equation" then your god is a wimp.Your the only one "blasting" that I can see.):smile:

I love it when morons say the whole "Seperation of Church and State" and do not know what it means.

bigsmile(You dont seem to know what it means, so are you calling yourself a moron?)laugh


Read the damn Constitution!

laugh(Yes, you should read the Constitution.)laugh

And, if this offended anyone....suck my balls.

rofl(Sounds like you got some repressed urges.)rofl


MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 11/01/08 12:22 AM

For the record.....If you post something and don't have the sac to come back and face me....f*ck off!!!bigsmile laugh
bigsmile I just "faced you".bigsmile

no photo
Sat 11/01/08 01:03 AM
Edited by MorningSong on Sat 11/01/08 01:48 AM



Who says I have religion in it.....It's Christ...that's it.....



disclaimer - just my opinion

- believe in what facts you find/found out to be true; not in a political party; focus on issues/remedies; realize that whoever wins won the problem not that they are the solution.

- don't lose focus on the issues
- don't allow yourselves to be led - take command

- agree to disagree respectfully; your (generalization) way is not the only way nor is it the right way for everyone - that doesnt exist

- to throw religion in the mix begets the following:
A - vex the believers
B - vex the non believers

in the end nothing is solved.

again just my opinion waving



see that's my point - take what you want, whats convenient and disregard the rest - these are not guidelines but my opinion. Notice never mentioned nor gave my opinion on religion, now did I?
waving


Feral wrote:

Well yes you actually did......to vex a believer or a non believer is you opinion. But for me to NOT have my Lord in EVERY ASPECT of my life would be a vex.




































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cutelildevilsmom's photo
Sat 11/01/08 06:43 AM


Too young for JFK's death but do remember Bobby's and MLK's..:(


I remember my mom crying and all the adults were so upset.


My Dad was in Vietnam.

Winx's photo
Sat 11/01/08 11:32 AM



Too young for JFK's death but do remember Bobby's and MLK's..:(


I remember my mom crying and all the adults were so upset.


My Dad was in Vietnam.


flowerforyou flowerforyou

Mrtap's photo
Wed 11/05/08 05:51 AM
HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

feralcatlady's photo
Wed 11/05/08 05:53 AM
I agree......It's now in God's hands. I highly recomment reading Kings....will put a lot into perspective of what I was trying to say.....

Love & Peace to all....



(((((((((((((((((((((Holly)))))))))))))) big hugs

Tromette's photo
Wed 11/05/08 05:53 AM

HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Maybe you should move to another country.

Mrtap's photo
Wed 11/05/08 05:56 AM


HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Maybe you should move to another country.

I am invading Cuba.

franshade's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:00 AM

HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


morning mrtap - Hope is not lost sad2 your hope is lost, I still have mine winking

no photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:03 AM


HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


morning mrtap - Hope is not lost sad2 your hope is lost, I still have mine winking


I have hope too!!! Always have.....Morning Fran.

franshade's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:05 AM



HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


morning mrtap - Hope is not lost sad2 your hope is lost, I still have mine winking


I have hope too!!! Always have.....Morning Fran.

Morn {{{{{Mag}}}}} flowerforyou

Mrtap's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:09 AM


HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


morning mrtap - Hope is not lost sad2 your hope is lost, I still have mine winking

My hope is shaken, but for the future it is lost.

Morning and good you for youflowerforyou

franshade's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:11 AM



HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


morning mrtap - Hope is not lost sad2 your hope is lost, I still have mine winking

My hope is shaken, but for the future it is lost.

Morning and good you for youflowerforyou


why is your future lost??? mine isn't.

I prefer my martini's shaken my hope is intact waving

beachbum069's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:23 AM
Even though the election didn't end up the way I wanted it too, my hope is still intact. I believe that no matter who is president that they will ensure the democratic principles of our country will not be diminished by hate or partisans antics.

Tromette's photo
Wed 11/05/08 06:28 AM



HOPE IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


morning mrtap - Hope is not lost sad2 your hope is lost, I still have mine winking

My hope is shaken, but for the future it is lost.

Morning and good you for youflowerforyou


I could maybe, possibly take you half seriously if you could actually give me reasons why "hope for the future is lost."

I'm looking for logical and factual reasons here.