Scientists have actually discovered that our solar system is not originally part of the Milky Way Galaxy but part of another galaxy that collided with this one.

Who is to say that the genetic material on the planets in this solar system isn't very different from this Milky way galaxy? It could have been left by others like us.

I don't think we de-evolved over time, but we may have started over from scratch in a new Galaxy. Our proper evolution may have been tampered with by the current residents in the Milky Way Galaxy who thought they were doing us a favor but actually impeded our natural and more spiritual evolutionary path.

JB

There might be something "living" besides us in this Milky Way but good luck locating it any time soon. There are some 20 billion star systems that offer the prerequisites of life. I dont think humanoid either. If its out there, its most likely not the same as us. I dont believe the evolutionary process would have occurred in the same manner as the external pressures and components involved would have been different than what took place on earth. My educated guess is that any star that has existed at least 4 billion years would have the capability of producing terrestrial planets somewhere near it. No, we aren't special and there is no god involved. None of that. It can happen over and over without question.

i think thec50's fi-sci movie "the bob" may have been the best sci-imagination of what other life could exist out there of a non-human kind. it was the first to depict a life form unlike anything til then, no arms no legs no eyes, etc.., just a blob.

"The Bob"?? Did you mean "The Blob?" Remember that Star Trek film (I cant remember which) but they had that Genesis thing that could trigger an evolutionary process across the surface of a dead terrestrial planet?

Well if a person was to start living in a space station with no gravity and remained there ... even during their lifetime, their bones would probably start to disappear if they did not do some sort of resistance training.

A few generations with no gravity would probably produce "blobs" that just float through the air, maybe with tentacles. Perhaps our arms and legs will change into tentacles with no bones in them at all.

Well no wonder. I was raised as a Christian in a society of mostly Christians.

We were taught that we are such pathetically terrible failures that even our very own creator was thoroughly ashamed of us. At one point he tried to drown out the whole planet because he was so ashamed of us that he didn't even want the Draconians to see us.

But a few of us escaped on a portable zoo and reseeded the planet. Then we started the same ignorance sh!t over again and so he sent his Son down to tell us to behave ourselves and we butchered him on a pole.

So what am I supposed to think? That humans are a proud worthy species? From what I've been taught from Chrisitianity even God himself is totally disgusted with us.

Why would the Draconians want to have anything to do with us? They'd probably puke from the stench if they merely came within a few lightyears of the Solar System.

I can't help what I've been taught. It's all over the TV channels especially on Sundays. They even have thinks like a 700 club. I thinks that's really a front for a house of ill-repute for gays because the guy that used to host it sure acted feminine.

They also have shows on TV at night to watch. Have every seen them?

"Little Hell House on the Prairie"?

Or "Highway to Draconia?"

Or "Touched by a Draconian?"

I think there were some others too.

In the last episode of "The Little Hell House on the Prairie" the Christians blew up their houses so the Draconians wouldn't get them and then marched away singing "Onward Christian Soldier". I have no idea were they were heading.

"Highway to Draconia"

"Touched by a Draconian"

I don't like to use the term "God" because there is too much assumed and too many different ideas associated with what that word means.

But I am quite certain that conscious intelligence is involved in creation and in all universes as I believe that all is connected and conscious in such a way that information is shared through a universally connected source or mind which is accessed by all lifeforms everywhere.

This does not mean that there is a specific single entity you might want to call "GOD" but it does not rule out that possibility either. The Universal mind is a storehouse for all information and all lifeforms utilize this database as needed for manifestation on the subconscious level.

Therefore the humanoid design is stored in this universal mind data base and there is a very good possibility that we earth humans are not the first creatures to manifest this humanoid form. Why would we be? If you assert that we are, then we are indeed very special.

I say we are special but you have to compare us to something to make that kind of judgment. So, special compared to what?

Well that being an opinion, I will say that we are special compared to the 'native' humanoid life forms in this galaxy, for one thing. (That's my opinion but I am a little bias towards humans.)

(I love you because you are human.)

That's not to say that I hate the waring reptilian creatures; I just know that they are not exactly our friends and we are not like them.

If you can get your mind around the idea of infinity, which is what we are working with here, there is nothing that is not possible.

Abra,

I have made comparisons between the draconian culture and practices and the Old Testament Biblical Godhead and their practices, and these two cultures are practically identical.

They like wars
They routinely take slaves
They love ritual and blood sacrifices
They fight amongst themselves.
They insist on being worshiped
They have advanced technology (mistook for magic in the Bible)

They are one and the same.

When are people going to realize this I wonder.

no i meant "the bob" thats funches alter identity

I see your point here and that is why I was guessing "non-humanoid" simply by virtue of whatever particular evolutionary process that individual life form would have undergone on their unique planetary space or area of origin. The external pressures that created the animals and plants and eventually the humans here, would most likley not occur again in the exact same manner and time frame, but no one can say that with 100% certainty.

I imagine that a creature like that who has no skeletal system or distinctive form yet still must eat, might have evolved in a liquid or gaseous environment but I just dont know. It wouldn't seem likely that a terrestrial life form would prosper or be capable of breeding and sustaining itself with that genetic profile but I can only compare that with human evolutionary biology which may be totally inapplicable. .

i'm really more impressed with Saturn!!

i saw on science channel that the planet is all gas no solid and at its south pole so to say is a large 5000 mile wide hurricane all the time and at the northern pole is a perfect polygon 6 equal sides 200 miles across i think and the clouds travel around it in an angular pattern and they can see way inside it hundreds of miles - ???? what purpose it has ?? it's unexplainable.

I don't know Lex. I think the math is looking pretty good for life.

Not from the Drake Equation or anything stupid like that.

But just from pure math, and some basic physics.

Allow me to explain.

There are only roughly 100 different kinds of elements in the universe (rounding off). And even out of those there are only about 25 or 30 that appear to truly be important components for life.

Moreover, those 25 or 30 important elements appear to be homogeneous in proportions throughout the entire universe. We can tell by the spectrum of light from stars and galaxies. Everything is made up of 'roughly' the same proportions of these crucial elements.

So the entire universe is a 'perfect' broth. You couldn't ask for a better combination of elements in the right proportions (at least with respect to the kind of life found on earth).

That's the first key point.

The second key point is that when clouds of this stuff condense to form solar systems it's natural (by the lawys of physicis) for the elements to condense out in "roughly" the same pattern that they did for our solar system. In other words, the lighter gas like elments condense further out, the heavier elements like iron (the main ingredient of the rock we live on!) tend to condense out closer to the star.

In other words, the probabily is actually quite high that solar systems similar to our in chemical make up will naturally condense out in roughly similar ways.

Ok, so you might say, "Oh well, that's pretty ROUGH, the earth has to be JUST SO!".

Actually that's not true. Astrophysicts are begining to realize that the entire ZONE from Venus to Mars and even somewhat beyond on both sides actually are well within a potentially safe distance from the sun.

Mars is believed to have lost it's atomsphere simply because it was just slightly too small to have a strong enough gravitational field to retain it. It wasn't the distance from the sun that killed it's changes, it just wasn't quite large enough to keep it's atmosphere. Mars is a bit smaller than the earth.

Venus had a runaway Greenhouse affect, but that didn't necessarily have anything to do with out close to the sun it was.

So in a very real sense, our solar system had basically THREE chances to 'grow' and earth like planet and ours just happen to be the one that made it.

There may be many solar systems that have grown three potential planets or more. In fact, if our solar system formation is AVERAGE then there may actually be solar systems out there with two or more earth-like planets revolving around a SINGLE STAR!

That's exciting I think.

Now look at the numbers.

Ok we have only about 30 truly important element that are already in the perfect proportions throughout the entire unvierse and galaxy.

And in the Milky Way we have about 100 billion stars. That's a 100 BILLION rolls of the dice in a PERFECT SOUP!

I think most gamblers would be pretty excited about getting to roll the dice 100 BILLION times!

Dice that have PERFECT SOUP numbers on them!

Now think about the observerable universe. There are over 70 sextillion rolls of the PERFECT DICE.

That's 70 thousand million million million rolls, with PERFECT DICE!

Dice made of SOUP that is perfectly proportioned based on what we see in the spectroscopy of stars and galaxies.

From my point of view, out of 70 thousand million million million rolls of the dice, I'd bet on a hell of a lot more than just one win.

In fact, I'd bet that life in the universe is COMMONPLACE.

Not only are the chemical proportions correct all though the universe, but lab experienment have shown that if you take these perfect proportions and shoot electricity or fiery hot laval though them they will AUTOMATICALLY PRODUCE amino acids.

Amino acids are the building blocks of DNA!

Bingo! The stuff of life!

Also consider this.

It was once believed that liquid water was necessary for life. But since then we have found bacteria that live in sulfuric acid and other non-H2O liquids. We don't have any right to claim that water is special.

Aliens might live in sulfuric acid oceans and breath methane gas for fuel.

Who knows what's possible?

If I had to place bets I'd bet that life is pretty darn commonplace in the universe as a whole, and possibly even quite common in the galaxy. Especailly in the form of bacteria and primordal life forms.

Moreover, some other planets may have be around a lot longer than the earth. Our sun is only middle-aged.

Some other worlds might be near the end of their star's life and have had plenty more time to evolve than we have thus far.

Imagine where we'd be today had we taken hold as humans 300 million years ago when the dinosaurs began.

As humans we're not even quite 2 million years old yet. Imagine if we ,as humans, stick around for another 298 million years (as long as the dinosaurs hung around). Just think about how technologically advanced we be by then (assuming we don't shoot ourselves in the foot first).

I personally think life's commonplace.

I mean, maybe not technological life, but animal life like dinosaurs, mice, and even monkeys.

Sentient beings might be rare. But life? I think it's all over the place.

I'd actually be more surprised to find that it isn't than to find that it is.

The soup looks good to me.

I missed that show ... damn.

There are theories that planets are hollow. Have you ever looked into the Hollow earth theory? Also the moon is supposed to be hollow. I don't know if there is any truth to that and most scientist will deny it and laugh their heads off at the idea.

I have heard that electromagnetic energy comes out of one pole and travels around the planet to the other pole, going inside.

There are many changes happening to the planets in our solar system right now because of the sun's approach to the galactic equator of the Milky way.

JB

Oh COME OFF IT Jeannie!

Slap yourself in the face kiddo!

If the similarities are so GREAT what does that tell you?

The authors of that mythology were just as lazy as the authors of the Bible and they just plagiarized the whole Mediterranean mythology garbage again.

Come on!

Wake up!

Put down the National Inquirer and PAINT!

The authors of which mythology?

The similarities tell me that the stories of Gods are stories of aliens. Simple as that.

Seems perfectly logical,simple, cut and dried to me.

What's so hard to believe?

JB

yeah i have a site with several on it about the holow earth thing plus what i read when young on schaffers books of an antideluvian race[not dracos]

People find it easy to believe and admit that life in the universe and even in this galaxy is certainly possible, but they find it hard to believe that life might be sentient humanoids?

Why?

Whats so disagreeable or hard to believe in that?

Do humans want to think that they and they alone are special and there can't possibly be any other sentient life forms but them in the entire galaxy?

I just don't understand that given the mounds of evidence I have come across that points to the truth that there are other sentient life forms living on this very planet and coming not only from outer space but from the inner earth and another dimensional reality.

Sam a guy I used to date when I was heavily down with hallucinogenic substances (no just kidding ) was super duper into sci-fi and life on other planets within the Milky Way and I guess there are some strange circumstances that surround Saturn. For one thing it has a very strong gravitational environment, high winds, high pressure, and SUPER cold. So perhaps something could exist on it's surface or within it but just NOT like us. It would never be quiet but always deafening winds. The entire planet is not cold however, there are areas where it might be close to 80 degrees Fahrenheit. Like Mexico right? Well not exactly. In the areas where it is warmer, the strong gravitational pull would make it feel like you are in the deep sea, with crushing pressure over your body. You would just be smashed flat into pudding. So thats not to say something couldnt evolve there, but just certainly not like us.It would be incompatible with life as we understand it Very inhospitable.

Now Mars is another story altogether.