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| Topic: The most violent sport and it needs to be banned: MMA | |
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the refs in mma will stop a fight if one contender cannot intelligently defend themselves. any idiot can stand with their hands up, thats a natural reaction to seeing a punch or kick coming, but when your just standing there, not moving, at least trying to counter, they will stop the fight so no serious injuries will happen.
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Edited by
ChefBadger
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Wed 10/22/08 07:03 PM
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Its also the OPs basic assertion that "its the most violent sport". Says who. You? Hahahahaha riiiight. As has been stated previously there are way more sports with deadly and traumatic force being used. And those arent BANNED. NASCAR for example. Drivers outright crash and die in that sport but its not banned. But hey, I'm just going by the OP's whacked out criteria.
Now this is comedy gold: Written by myself, a guy who did Karate, Tae Kwon Do, BJJ, Grappling, Amateur Boxing, and MMA and was an instructor and now im an ACSM personal trainer. These "sports", if you want to call them that, need to be banned. They are nothing but pure violence, and instructors try to brainwash you into thinking otherwise. to the OP: I sorry you didnt enjoy your 3 free classes at Kim's Karate in the mall. Really I am. Because if you had any heart or dedication at all you might understand the testicular fortitude it takes to compete. I studied BJJ in the ARMY and I competed in Judo for 7 years and left the sport Nationally Ranked. "pure violence" you say? That's pure ignorance. And you obviously know nothing of the DISCIPLINE that the combat sports are really all about. No one is brainwashing anyone except you. I can see from your blatant ignorance that you have no idea what you are talking about and you can respond with all the "internet-tough-guy" talk you want but it doesn't change the fact that you are basing a fantastically broad falsehood based on your very limited experience. MMA isn't about bashing someones head in. Choking someone out isn't trying to kill them. You claim to have had martial arts experience and to have been an "instructor" (whatever THAT means) and you obviously have not. Otherwise you'd know that the rear naked choke (thats the actual name for it by the way) would have to be applied for far longer than would EVER BE ALLOWED IN REGULATED,SUPERVISED, COMPETITION in order to take a life. and on a side note: Go watch the history channel, or read a book, or go to the friggin library. Violence IS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE a part of life. Deal with it. Or stay home and watch the Disney channel because that seems to be all you can handle of reality. Good day. |
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Boxing is not nearly as bad as MMA. A lot of the fighting techniques this guy mentioned above is taught in the military and at the police academy. These fighting tactics are specially taught for incapacitating others to be temporarily helpless, partially disabled, or dead depending on the amount of force used. I agree the sport should be banned. wow r u serious, boxing= multiple concusions= dumb a$$ for the rest of your life MMA= 1 if that and cuts come on, you people look at it like you get killed in MMA, look at RC VS Ali who shakes, cant stand or talk well, then get back at me 
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Bumped because someone is too lazy to go back 3 pages for his own thread.
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I dont care. I look at it as evolution taking its natural course.
I was a fighter for a few years, and decided I wanted to keep more brain cells so I stopped. If you want to fight go for it. The government cannot possible be responsible for people's safety in the way you would like, unless of course you want to be locked up in a bubble with a seat belt on every inch of your body and a condom permanently strapped to you. |
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Ok to anyone who thinks MMA is "dangerous" than please dont step outside ur house, because its pretty dangerous too, o and dont watch football, its waaay to violent for you.. i mean come on, I use to fight and it wasnt for money, MMA is the best thing ever! its the only sport in the world that goes mano y mano!! i mean really. So if u think this sport should be banned u misinformed and misunderstand the concept of the sport that is as old as man
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then ban boxing,, people have actually died in the ring, oh dont forget to ban football, cause people get more head injuries in that sport than any other, and more injuries on the football field than all others total. reported and not. dont forget taking hockey out, more blood in that than most. while your at it,, take away all contact sports that someone might enjoy Thank you As far as 'staring eachother down' it's all to psych the other person out. Whenever I was in a kayak competition, or ski competition, i'd be like 'hey, the surf is pretty gnarly, make sure you have your head on' or 'man, if you case the pipe, you're gonna be hurtin' big time. It gets their minds wandering, and when they're wandering they're not focused on 'doing what needs to be done' but, what happens, if 'they make a mistake' it's the same concept. |
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I tend to consider myself a traditionalist when it comes to the martial arts. I have trained and studied in Aikido, Kenjutsu, Iaido, Tai Chi Chuan and Tai Hui since i was twelve. I train and live by the mentality that these are combative art forms that are studied and practiced only to do one thing. That would be to defend yourself or others who could be harmed. These are not sports.
These are not games. People who use them for such do not embody the martial mind. They have allowed ego,pride and blantant aggression to blind them from the true essence and nature of their martial arts teachings. Competition never improves the martial artists' true potential and abilities. I would have to agree that such 'bloodsports' that encourage such behavior should be restricted, limited and controlled. However as much as i disdain saying it these 'bloodsports' will continue as they are until someone dies or the masses grow weary of such violence. |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Mon 11/24/08 07:12 AM
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Football and Hockey attribute to more serious injuries..Want to ban them too? I dont even watch the crap...
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Football and Hockey attribute to more serious injuries..Want to ban them too? I dont even watch the crap... hummingbird speaketh as a tempered fellow to ban mma because of the possible injuries would justify ban of all automotive driving after all if you are trying to keep people from getting hurt auto collisions are the #! cause of death and maiming so until yer ready to give up the automotive industry and everything attached to it give your banning ideas little credence 
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Edited by
Unknow
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Mon 11/24/08 07:30 AM
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Football and Hockey attribute to more serious injuries..Want to ban them too? I dont even watch the crap... hummingbird speaketh as a tempered fellow to ban mma because of the possible injuries would justify ban of all automotive driving after all if you are trying to keep people from getting hurt auto collisions are the #! cause of death and maiming so until yer ready to give up the automotive industry and everything attached to it give your banning ideas little credence People get hurt in Nascar and even killed. They understand the risks..PLZ dont take away my Nascar!!!
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WE DONT NEED NO MOMMY AND DADDY REGULATIONS/GOVT if they know the risk and are wanting to do it who is anyone to say you can not do it (to an adult) kids dif story WE DONT NEED NO MOMMY AND DADDY REGULATIONS/GOVT |
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WE DONT NEED NO MOMMY AND DADDY REGULATIONS/GOVT if they know the risk and are wanting to do it who is anyone to say you can not do it (to an adult) kids dif story WE DONT NEED NO MOMMY AND DADDY REGULATIONS/GOVT
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whoa there adj4u no need to yell...you might get banned by the FCC ,,,,lol
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whoa there adj4u no need to yell...you might get banned by the FCC ,,,,lol what will be will be
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Written by myself, a guy who did Karate, Tae Kwon Do, BJJ, Grappling, Amateur Boxing, and MMA and was an instructor and now im an ACSM personal trainer. These "sports", if you want to call them that, need to be banned. They are nothing but pure violence, and instructors try to brainwash you into thinking otherwise. These instructors try to use words like focus, balance, concentration, coordination, discipline, self-control (stuff you can learn in ANY sport, lol) to make it seem like a good sport. They say its not about fighting, even though....ummm, its called "fighting" lol. And the people who do it are called "fighters", and UFC stands for Ultimate FIGHTING Championship. I bet you never thought about that, did you? What do swimmers do? They swim. Runners? They run. Cyclists? They bicycle. Shooters? They shoot. What do plumbers do? They plumb. What does a runningback do? He runs. So, what do "fighters" do? They FIGHT. I thought fighting was assault, isnt assault illegal? When a soccer player scores a goal, why does he run all over the field in excitment? Because hes excited at his focus, balance, coordination? No, hes excited he scored a goal. So why do "fighters" parade around the cage after knocking out someone? Because their excited to have great focus, balance, coordination, etc? No. Theyre excited they just whooped someones ass. Is that so hard for people to realize? In any other sport, if someone is injured, everyone kneels and prays together, like when Anquan Boldin got knocked out in the NFL game weeks ago. In MMA, someone is always on the ground injured after a fight, and the whole crowd is cheering. Wow, thats disgusting. Have you ever watched a UFC "fight"? UWC "fight?" Pride "fight"? What are they doing? FIGHTING. Why do they stare each other down beforehand? Because "dude, i got better concentration than you!"....no, they stare each other down because they wanna whoop the other guys' ass. Have you ever looked up in a dictionary what "boxing", "kickboxing", and "martial arts" means? Boxing means "FIGHTING with the fists", kickboxing means "a martial art and sport of attack and defense", and martial arts means "art of war". Hmmm, art of war? Why is "art of war" being taught to people who arent in war, or to 5 year olds??? And why is it that everytime you tell THIS to people in mma and all those sports, they get so mean and defensive, i thought MMA taught RESPECT?? People dont get mean or defensive if you bash baseball, soccer, swimming, etc....but then again, MMA is pretty much the only sport with so much controversy surrounding it. I wonder why... Over and over again, people in these sports talk about how safe it is, how its MUCH safer than gymnastics, soccer, hockey, etc. Again, what do hockey players do? Play hockey. What do soccer players do? Play soccer. What do fighters do? FIGHT. Compare the amount of blood spilt in MMA, to soccer. Compare the amount of people passed out in MMA, to gymnastics. NOW which is worse? If someone dies in soccer, its not as a result of SOCCER. There have been deaths in football, but because the guy got a heart attack or something. In MMA, the deaths theyve had, were a result of the FIGHT. If soccer, football, hockey, etc has more injuries, perhaps its because soccer/football/hockey players compete on a WEEKLY basis. Whereas in MMA and all those violent sports, they compete every month or every few months. So MMA teaches balance, focus, concentration, coordination, body conditioning? So does every other sport. So how come soccer players can play for 2 hours and not get worn out? But in MMA, Kimbo Slice gets knocked out in 14 seconds by a no-name guy with pink hair. Tim Sylvia gets choked out within a minute or two by Fedor. And some people get knocked out in a matter of seconds. Yeah, sounds to me like they have incredible body conditioning. How come Brock Lesnar went out for football and couldnt even make the practice squad for the Vikings? MMA isnt about fighting? So why did Chuck Lidell say in an NBC interview, "we wouldnt do doing this stuff if we didnt have issues". Why did Matt Serra say "we had a drink and went our seperate ways, i dont fight friends". But, MMA isnt about fighting, right? Cant someone compete their focus, balance, concentration, coordination with a friend? Of course! Why did Fedor say "every man i fight, i view him as someone trying to send me back to my days of poverty, so this man must be eliminated"...hmm, but MMA isnt about fighting, right? If MMA is about respect, self-control, discipline....then uhh, why are they fighting? Have any of you ever thought about THAT before?? Ive seen a few MMA shows, like Fight Science, Combat Sports on Comcast...and the whole show was basically showing every way to hurt a person, how to hit them hard enough it damages their body, or gives them a concussion.....wow, thats sickening. Not to mention most people in these sports that I know, I ask them why they do it, and they say its because they love fighting, kicking people's asses, hurting people legally. These are the same people who want the "Gladiator" days of Ancient Rome to come back, where people KILLED each other. Thats so gross. Who watches UFC and all these pointless sports? MOST are young people, Rednecks, College kids, Drunks, party goers, "Bad asses", people in the military who love fighting, troublemakers. If MMA was such a safe, good sport...why did so many states ban it at first? Some still have rules on it. Why isnt it mainstream? Why isnt MMA in the olympics? Boxing and tae kwon do are, but they are on the verge of being taken out of the olympics. EliteXC was on CBS twice, but thats on the verge of being taken out too. Why? Many times, MMA people try to say, "its about self defense. If someone came in your home and tried to attack your mother, would u just sit there?"....uhh, what on EARTH does some criminal intruding in my house and attacking my mother, have to do with me getting in a cage with some random guy who did NOTHING to me? I have my own martial art, its called "ball kicking". If a guy attacks you, u kick him in the nuts and you win, but that according to MMA guys and "tough guys" is called "being a *****"...because yes, if some guy has a knife or gun to you, you DONT want to be a *****, you want to be TOUGH, right? No. The last thing on your mind is "i dont wanna be a ***** about this". Funny how the rate of people being attacked, assaulted, sexually assaulted, and raped is on the RISE, and in the same time, MMA people try to say their sport is fast-growing. So either these mma people are learning NOTHING about how to defend themselves in the real world, or they are taking their knowledge to the streets and beating people up for fun. MMA guys try to say fighting is in our nature.....umm, no its not. Ive been on this earth for a long time and ive NEVER got into a fight OUTSIDE of the cage. Im sure MMA is on the rise, because people enjoy violent entertainment. These people are simply brainwashed, and they enjoy what they do because they are able to fight legally, take their anger, frustration, stress out on people. Yes you learn confidence in MMA, because before you'll say "uhh no, i wont knee him in the liver", but NOW ull say "hell yeah i will!". So yeah, its not GOOD confidence. How exactly does kicking someone in the head, punching someone, kneeing them in the liver, choking them out, a GOOD thing? How does that teach focus, balance, concentration, etc? How is that SAFE? Why is it that when a guy is knocked down and defenseless, the attacker STILL goes at him? THAT, is what really proves that its about fighting. Any other sport alive, teaches focus, balance, concentration, coordination...SAFELY, and its FUN too. And nobody watches UFC for any other reason besides, they wanna watch someone get the **** beat out of them. People who say otherwise, get a life, you're only lying to yourself, thats like a college kid saying "i wanna go to Amsterdam to see the beautiful scenery." NO, u wanna go to Amsterdam to do drugs and get laid. Not to mention, almost every medical association alive, speaks AGAINST the sport. Almost every doctor, speaks AGAINST the sport. I wonder why... I really dont need to sit here and explain bit by bit, WHY its such a bad sport, and why it really is violence and about fighting. If you're not smart enough to watch a fight and say, "damn, thats violent and cruel, why do people do that?" then you've got some issues. Its okay for 2 people to step in a ring and beat the **** out of each other, but its not okay for 2 kids in a hallway to fight? And 2 kids in a hallway are fighting for a REASON. Why did Fedor choke out Sylvia? What, did Sylvia steal his girlfriend? And, why on earth do they allow you to CHOKE people??? Plus, school fights arent as violent as MMA fights. I mean seriously, whats so entertaining about watching 2 people beat each other up??? What are we, middle schoolers? In the world we live in, shouldnt we be teaching people NOT to fight? 7 years ago this country got attacked, yet 7 years later WE are still beating each other up. Honestly I hope it gets mainstreamed one day, because since we live in a country full of whiney parents, parents will start to whine constantly about pro fighting being on TV, THEN congress will start to act to get rid of it. Lastly, just think of the long term effects of being hit in the head, knee'ed in the liver, choked so much...theres a reason UFC and boxing doesnt talk about its old fighters who are now in their 50s and 60s... So let me get this straight...our country wants to ban gay marriage, yet they dont want to ban 2 people beating the blood out of each other? They wont show sex, the most natural and normal thing alive on free tv, yet theyll show two people beating the blood out of each other on free tv?? Wow...
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Mon 11/24/08 09:18 AM
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I used to watch UFC and dug it. But then they changed the rules and now it's a little tame. I suppose it made it a little more palatable to the masses but it took all the fun out of it.
It is kinda cool though that the event originally created by the Gracies (UFC) to promote their Brazillian Ju Jitsu has turned into a sport of itself |
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I think that MMA is a natural progression of boxing, Boxing is almost dead and all people won't like it . those people who don't like it should not watch it there enough people like our selfs that enjoy MMA. Also If you have seen a interview with a retired boxer, it's very sad to hear them speak. Then listen to an MMA fighter.
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Dude if you don't like it don't ****ing watch. As a student of the sport I copmletely disagree with what you're saying. Just because you're a loser with no nuts and can't fight, don't go hating on anybody else. Little *****.
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I'm all for banning the UFC. Their positioning shows MMA in the worst possible light, attracting the bottom of society as a fan base.
Fighting has been around since the dawn of time. It is innate. It is not going to go away. Ever. |
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