Race equals human, ethnicity equals European, African, English, Asian, Arab, Americas, etc.

You seem like an intelligent bunch, lets try and keep the terms with there original intent.

Interesting point Fear!

Then why is it you read things like equal op empl that says we do not discriminate because of "race, sex, religion..etc" ? Just interesting their wording.

Yea, smart one.

Same reason most applications that I've filled out ask what my race is...they're uneducated I guess. Either way I have fun with the race question and put down Extra-Terrestial or Amphibian.

the dictionary disagrees

race 1 (rs)
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
5. Biology
a. An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
b. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
6. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.

Under the rules of taxonomy, amphibian is a class, not a race....just saying....

I normally ignore the race question but answer the sex question with a yes please

actually fear...race is defined as a group of people related by common decent or heredity

so to make it as general as race equals human is wrong

i think that people are people and the color of their skin or their decent should not matter...but a person does have a race

Wrong. According to sociology there is only one race. Because we are completely biologically the same.

actually we are not biologically the same and there is where the definition comes in.....different heredity, DNA is different in every person that is not related

therefore your sociological definition is void

and who is winning?

race - a competition or test of abilities, ie, marathon, decathalon etc

look again madam...there are more definitions to race....seriously, look it up

exactly my point so many definitions, so many variations - not wrong to try and emcompass not segregate people by including all in the human race (jmo)

and as for the madam part

sorry if you don't like the madam part...it is just a way that i show respect to women....no matter their age

and i am not saying that it is right to discriminate or segregate....i was just relaying info

people are people to me....but we do have a race

was kidding Nova - I kinda knew that info, but with other threads leaning towards racism I just wanted to lean things towards a different route togetherness

You can call me Madam, beats the hey Ma's I get via email

lol...HEY MA!!! j/k j/k

yeah, i am tired of the same things.....i just wish sometimes that we were all colorblind and that we could all just get past all of that stuff....however there will always be ignorant and stupid people (sucks i know)

nova

you are sweet fran

The only reason it used in that manner today is because we have come accustomed to race...race in fact does equal human, but as human's we are naturally lazy and would rather make a new definition rather then a new word. Ethnicity is the nationality which is also primarily based off the color of a person's skin. Culture is the circle of customs and beliefs according to a person's ethnicity. So yes, while it is in the dictionary the actual word itself has nothing to do with color or ethnicity.

Main Entry: 1eth·nic
Pronunciation: \ˈeth-nik\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin ethnicus, from Greek ethnikos national, gentile, from ethnos nation, people; akin to Greek ēthos custom — more at sib
Date: 15th century
1: heathen
2 a: of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background <ethnic minorities> <ethnic enclaves> b: being a member of a specified ethnic group <an ethnic German> c: of, relating to, or characteristic of ethnics <ethnic neighborhoods> <ethnic foods>

The only diferential that I bother with is this:

A guy is either a pr*ck or he is cool.

A woman is either a b*tch or she is cool.

Other than that, as long as they bathe...got no problem. All of our blood is red and we want the same things....a good life. The whole race thing is weak. Don't misunderstand me....there is nothing wrong with being proud of one's heritage....it is wrong to denegrate someone else for being proud of a seperate heritage.

Just my perspective.