Topic: racism
Plainome's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:16 AM

I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.

Jill298's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:16 AM

I have experienced the same thing. People who claim they are not racist refuse to vote for Obama simply because he is black.
I know someone in particular who is voting for Mccain even though he doesnot agree w/any of his policies because he says if Obama is voted in then it will benefit only the black community. His analogy was you move one in then they all move in and there goes the neighbourhood. I was so offended by this and totally lost my respect for this person.

I have also noticed many churches in my area telling there members that if Obama is elected it is literally going to be the end of the world.
slaphead

That's a horrible thing to claim

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:16 AM
Either way you look at this election, we have two terrible canidates. One lacks the experience for the job and the other lacks the ability to form his own independant ideas...it has become nothing more then 'American Idol: Election'.*

*American Idol is not used with expressed consent, as well as there is no show called American Idol: Election.

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:16 AM

Ummm Drez...Jesse and Al are radicals. Of course they didn't win. That is a clear example of race/gender making no difference, IMO. But religiosity? That makes a HUGE difference.

Were you alive when Jesse tried to run? I was and it was pathetic.

Now give me an Obama, Colin Powell, Condy if she switches parties...

I think I can say, in all honesty, (Like that one?)... that I have a problem with a man running who can't run, swing his arms, or dial a phone. I want the president to be able to call 911, and run for help. That isn't the reason I won't vote for him... but it does play a part.


i was very young when Jesse ran but i remember black people in my area being very excited. I think there is going to be a certain amount of pride involved with a voter for someone who is like you running for office.

That said you are right Jesse and Al are radicals and no leaders of mine.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:18 AM


I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.


Plainome's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:26 AM

Plainome- Tho I agree with you, typically people do "judge a book by it's cover" however... I learned a long time to get away from that. Tho at times it's difficult, I always put forth my best effort not to judge anyone before I get to know them. I have some of the best and dearest friends because I didn't look at how they were dressed, or what color their skin is. I realize how much I would have robbed myself of by being ignornant and racist.


Oh, I know. In essence it simply causes problems in your own life, and "limits" you.

However, if they aren't being hateful or violent, but are simply uncomfortable with it.......then as I said, education and helping them understand why they feel that way is much better than judging their problem as being a moral one. (I'm not saying you did/have, but many people do.........) It isn't really a matter of "race" but is simply because they are viewed different. It exists everywhere. Doctors/Lawyers don't usually marry cashier's at a local gas station. It is a matter of being different......you are uncomfortable because your mind doesn't identify with the person.....

That is why I hate the way society has decided to deal with the problem. Civil Rights movements think they have to give minorities more "pride" more "power".....in some cases to where they believe that their "minority" is better than others. Rather than focusing on us all being the same in many ways, they emphasize the differences, and how those differences make them "better".

Note: I said some civil rights advocates, not all.

Making an all black college, is no different than an all white one...........

Having one month a year to promote black history, is imo a disgrace to black history. If it isn't incorporated ALL year round, then it is an insult.

Children being taught that people "like" them did this or that.........as if the other people who accomplished the same things are not at all like them.


Don't get me wrong, I understand the motivations, I just think that in some cases it makes the problems worse.

At one point of another in history........we have all been mistreated, raped, had our property stolen..........simply because we were weaker. All throughout history.

I do not wish to relive the sins of my forefathers.......nor do I wish for those whose forefathers have committed sins against mine to continue to relive them.

I'm hoping at some point we catch up to the fact that we are all humans........and equality means just that, that none of us deserve special attention, but at the same time we all do.

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:27 AM



I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




well it aint the black one. 'cause if he where to play that he would loose. Obama seems to have made a real effort to make race a non-issue because he never mentions it. if he did i would remeber and expect him to fail in Nov.

no one is playing cards this election.

although the sexism card has been used.... so i guess someone is playing cards somewhere

Plainome's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:27 AM



I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:32 AM




I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


no one is playing it for him.

if someone in his campaign is doing it then that is one thing. but they havent.

if someone unassociated with the campaign is playing it then that is just them and has no reflection on the candidate what so ever

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:34 AM




I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




well it aint the black one. 'cause if he where to play that he would loose. Obama seems to have made a real effort to make race a non-issue because he never mentions it. if he did i would remeber and expect him to fail in Nov.

no one is playing cards this election.

although the sexism card has been used.... so i guess someone is playing cards somewhere


I agree. I think that he has made a real effort to make race a non-issue too.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:37 AM




I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


I am not arguing with you. I was trying to learn about the race card because I have not seen evidence of it.flowerforyou

You had said, "I like Obama, but if race doesn't matter, then why does he play the "race card"?

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:40 AM


Disclaimers often revealing the truth:
I know you hate this, but....
I am not a racist, but...
I'm not a hater, but...
I'm not sexist, but....
I hate to ask, but....
To tell you the truth...
I'm just going to put it like this.....


hey..have you been listening in on my conversations???....
spock

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:48 AM
I have talked to lots of people and they are basing their decisions on those reason listed below:

racism (against Obama)
sexism (for Palin)
or ageism (against McCain)

sad but true fact
no one wants to decide on what the candidate stands for
which is understandable to some degree, because McCain or Obama haven't really stated what they stand for or what they can can do for the American peopleohwell

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 11:53 AM

I have talked to lots of people and they are basing their decisions on those reason listed below:

racism (against Obama)
sexism (for Palin)
or ageism (against McCain)

sad but true fact
no one wants to decide on what the candidate stands for
which is understandable to some degree, because McCain or Obama haven't really stated what they stand for or what they can can do for the American peopleohwell


i think after 2 years of these people running for president if you think these guys "haven't really stated what they stand for or what they can can do for the American people" you either havnet been listening or you dont want to hear what they have been saying.

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 12:06 PM


I have talked to lots of people and they are basing their decisions on those reason listed below:

racism (against Obama)
sexism (for Palin)
or ageism (against McCain)

sad but true fact
no one wants to decide on what the candidate stands for
which is understandable to some degree, because McCain or Obama haven't really stated what they stand for or what they can can do for the American peopleohwell


i think after 2 years of these people running for president if you think these guys "haven't really stated what they stand for or what they can can do for the American people" you either havnet been listening or you dont want to hear what they have been saying.


just tired of them tap dancing around any topic thrown at them

it's mostly the same bull$#!t answers that all politicians give

it's definitely a time for CHANGE!!!

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 09/30/08 12:34 PM
Funny how we can argue the color of the canidates...yet it is so difficult to find someone on the street that actually knows of either of their policies and ways they intend to change the country we live in. Get passed the color of their skin, whether or not they are a female...and please for the love of all that is sane vote for the one that is going to put us back on track. Ron Paul, not a canidate...but still getting my vote.

TheShadow's photo
Tue 09/30/08 12:58 PM
I don't care what color or what ever you are. I wont vote. There all puppets and everyone says there going to change things. All i see is things geting worse. I think the most reason i wont vote for anything. is when you do and some people don't like it. it can be changed so whats the point?

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Tue 09/30/08 01:08 PM





I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


I am not arguing with you. I was trying to learn about the race card because I have not seen evidence of it.flowerforyou

You had said, "I like Obama, but if race doesn't matter, then why does he play the "race card"?


Sorry..........I took it the wrong way.

I don't keep track of everything I read or hear.............let me just say it was an impression. Having Jesse James Jr in ur campaign.......probably had an effect.

Things like this: (link to youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzYl8Rg8C0&feature=related

I could find more if I wanted to........but I won't, because everything reported has a flip side. I'm simply explaining why I said what I did............It wasn't Obama himself, but his wife in this one.

Polling African Americans..and women with Hillary, and wondering why not all African Americans didn't support Obama........is, imo, bringing race into the equation. As if voters should vote for him just because they are black and so is he.

P.S.
I'm new to politics.........I don't know everything about the candidates.........it was simply an "impression" I had..based on things I've mentioned.

DDejon's photo
Tue 09/30/08 01:19 PM

I don't care what color or what ever you are. I wont vote. There all puppets and everyone says there going to change things. All i see is things geting worse. I think the most reason i wont vote for anything. is when you do and some people don't like it. it can be changed so whats the point?
I can feel your cynicism and disgust; I really can. However this might be the time for participation, especially from people like you who might have something truthful to say.

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 01:40 PM






I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


I am not arguing with you. I was trying to learn about the race card because I have not seen evidence of it.flowerforyou

You had said, "I like Obama, but if race doesn't matter, then why does he play the "race card"?


Sorry..........I took it the wrong way.

I don't keep track of everything I read or hear.............let me just say it was an impression. Having Jesse James Jr in ur campaign.......probably had an effect.

Things like this: (link to youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzYl8Rg8C0&feature=related

I could find more if I wanted to........but I won't, because everything reported has a flip side. I'm simply explaining why I said what I did............It wasn't Obama himself, but his wife in this one.

Polling African Americans..and women with Hillary, and wondering why not all African Americans didn't support Obama........is, imo, bringing race into the equation. As if voters should vote for him just because they are black and so is he.

P.S.
I'm new to politics.........I don't know everything about the candidates.........it was simply an "impression" I had..based on things I've mentioned.


ok seeing that you are new to this you get a bit of a break but please aloww me to clear the record

Jesse Jackson Jr you mean correct? well if that is the person you mean Jesse Jr. is nothing like Jesse Sr. so if you wish to pass judgment on him do a bit of research. not doing so is how negatives of race are brought on.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/09/jesse.jackson.comment/

As far as the you tube clip you posted Michelle was talking about what i kinda eluded to earlier that black people only vote for black people if they are qualified, the fear in the primary was that he would prove to be unqualified. Therefore black people wernt voting for him in the early goin regardless of race... that kinda goes against your logic doesn't it? when he proved otherwise black people voted for him.