Topic: racism
enderra's photo
Tue 09/30/08 02:31 PM







I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


I am not arguing with you. I was trying to learn about the race card because I have not seen evidence of it.flowerforyou

You had said, "I like Obama, but if race doesn't matter, then why does he play the "race card"?


Sorry..........I took it the wrong way.

I don't keep track of everything I read or hear.............let me just say it was an impression. Having Jesse James Jr in ur campaign.......probably had an effect.

Things like this: (link to youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzYl8Rg8C0&feature=related

I could find more if I wanted to........but I won't, because everything reported has a flip side. I'm simply explaining why I said what I did............It wasn't Obama himself, but his wife in this one.

Polling African Americans..and women with Hillary, and wondering why not all African Americans didn't support Obama........is, imo, bringing race into the equation. As if voters should vote for him just because they are black and so is he.

P.S.
I'm new to politics.........I don't know everything about the candidates.........it was simply an "impression" I had..based on things I've mentioned.


ok seeing that you are new to this you get a bit of a break but please aloww me to clear the record

Jesse Jackson Jr you mean correct? well if that is the person you mean Jesse Jr. is nothing like Jesse Sr. so if you wish to pass judgment on him do a bit of research. not doing so is how negatives of race are brought on.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/09/jesse.jackson.comment/

As far as the you tube clip you posted Michelle was talking about what i kinda eluded to earlier that black people only vote for black people if they are qualified, the fear in the primary was that he would prove to be unqualified. Therefore black people wernt voting for him in the early goin regardless of race... that kinda goes against your logic doesn't it? when he proved otherwise black people voted for him.
Word, unfortunately we know too well, that brother won't give brother a break.smokin

Winx's photo
Tue 09/30/08 02:32 PM


I don't care what color or what ever you are. I wont vote. There all puppets and everyone says there going to change things. All i see is things geting worse. I think the most reason i wont vote for anything. is when you do and some people don't like it. it can be changed so whats the point?
I can feel your cynicism and disgust; I really can. However this might be the time for participation, especially from people like you who might have something truthful to say.


I agree. This time in our history is a critical time. We need EVERYBODY out there voting to help make a change. We must have change!

no photo
Tue 09/30/08 02:41 PM
It's America, we're all guilty of an "ism"- racism, sexism, ageism, nationalism, and of course you have homophobia, which doesn't have an ism at the end. Anyway, it's unrealistic to expect Americans to throw away their deepseated prejudices just because they passed laws saying "we shouldn't do this" or "we shouldn't do that." You may not be allowed to do "this" or "that" any longer, but the law didn't erase what's inside you- it restricted your actions.

I have white friends who are surprised when I tell them stories about racism I've experienced, "because they have laws against that." It's as if once the government said you can't hang a black person or lawfully segregate the public schools or prevent interracial marriage or make us use the back door or the black fountain or whatever, the hatred and ignorance ceased. That is irrational, laws can modify behavior- to an extent- but they do not change hearts or beliefs.

I'm interested to see who will this election, for whatever reason they win.


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Tue 09/30/08 02:45 PM
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Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Tue 09/30/08 03:00 PM








I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


I am not arguing with you. I was trying to learn about the race card because I have not seen evidence of it.flowerforyou

You had said, "I like Obama, but if race doesn't matter, then why does he play the "race card"?


Sorry..........I took it the wrong way.

I don't keep track of everything I read or hear.............let me just say it was an impression. Having Jesse James Jr in ur campaign.......probably had an effect.

Things like this: (link to youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzYl8Rg8C0&feature=related

I could find more if I wanted to........but I won't, because everything reported has a flip side. I'm simply explaining why I said what I did............It wasn't Obama himself, but his wife in this one.

Polling African Americans..and women with Hillary, and wondering why not all African Americans didn't support Obama........is, imo, bringing race into the equation. As if voters should vote for him just because they are black and so is he.

P.S.
I'm new to politics.........I don't know everything about the candidates.........it was simply an "impression" I had..based on things I've mentioned.


ok seeing that you are new to this you get a bit of a break but please aloww me to clear the record

Jesse Jackson Jr you mean correct? well if that is the person you mean Jesse Jr. is nothing like Jesse Sr. so if you wish to pass judgment on him do a bit of research. not doing so is how negatives of race are brought on.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/09/jesse.jackson.comment/

As far as the you tube clip you posted Michelle was talking about what i kinda eluded to earlier that black people only vote for black people if they are qualified, the fear in the primary was that he would prove to be unqualified. Therefore black people wernt voting for him in the early goin regardless of race... that kinda goes against your logic doesn't it? when he proved otherwise black people voted for him.
Word, unfortunately we know too well, that brother won't give brother a break.smokin



it's not about givin a brother a break. it's about the fact that Obama didnt need a break to get where he is. Affirmative action didnt get Obama the nomination, the content of his character did.

America is a great place to be this year

lilith401's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:05 PM
Holy moly quoters, get it under control.... no need to quote the whole damn thing. Clean it up, learn how if you don't, or use the person's name. Geesh!!!!noway

hellkitten54's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:11 PM
I'm not voting for John McCain cause he is white!noway :tongue:

lilith401's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:12 PM

I'm not voting for John McCain cause he is white!noway :tongue:


I love you!!! love

enderra's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:12 PM









I don't believe that Obama is playing the race card. He is half white and half black. Which one is he supposed to be playing the card for?


Everyone knows that being "white" is not considered to be of any "ethnic" background...........

And I didn't point blank say he was playing any card.........but there are people who support him that do so simply because part of him is "black".

It matters little to me, I will probably vote for him when elections come, because I like him better than McCain.


I honestly don't know which card he supposedly is playing.




And I never said that HE was.......so I'm not sure why you keep posting that??? I said, some people play it FOR him..... That bothers me, not he himself...and as I said, that isn't going to effect how I vote, either.


I am not arguing with you. I was trying to learn about the race card because I have not seen evidence of it.flowerforyou

You had said, "I like Obama, but if race doesn't matter, then why does he play the "race card"?


Sorry..........I took it the wrong way.

I don't keep track of everything I read or hear.............let me just say it was an impression. Having Jesse James Jr in ur campaign.......probably had an effect.

Things like this: (link to youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHzYl8Rg8C0&feature=related

I could find more if I wanted to........but I won't, because everything reported has a flip side. I'm simply explaining why I said what I did............It wasn't Obama himself, but his wife in this one.

Polling African Americans..and women with Hillary, and wondering why not all African Americans didn't support Obama........is, imo, bringing race into the equation. As if voters should vote for him just because they are black and so is he.

P.S.
I'm new to politics.........I don't know everything about the candidates.........it was simply an "impression" I had..based on things I've mentioned.


ok seeing that you are new to this you get a bit of a break but please aloww me to clear the record

Jesse Jackson Jr you mean correct? well if that is the person you mean Jesse Jr. is nothing like Jesse Sr. so if you wish to pass judgment on him do a bit of research. not doing so is how negatives of race are brought on.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/09/jesse.jackson.comment/

As far as the you tube clip you posted Michelle was talking about what i kinda eluded to earlier that black people only vote for black people if they are qualified, the fear in the primary was that he would prove to be unqualified. Therefore black people wernt voting for him in the early goin regardless of race... that kinda goes against your logic doesn't it? when he proved otherwise black people voted for him.
Word, unfortunately we know too well, that brother won't give brother a break.smokin



it's not about givin a brother a break. it's about the fact that Obama didnt need a break to get where he is. Affirmative action didnt get Obama the nomination, the content of his character did.

America is a great place to be this year
you are right, it is exciting this year. I was joking though

hellkitten54's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:13 PM


I'm not voting for John McCain cause he is white!noway :tongue:


I love you!!! love
blushing blushing bigsmile




lilith401's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:14 PM
Stop with the freaking quoting the whole freaking page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:16 PM
I'm writing in lillith for president if nothing else the grammar in the country will impove.

talldub's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:18 PM

Stop with the freaking quoting the whole freaking page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am sensing some consternation here, better do as she says people noway

lilith401's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:20 PM

I'm writing in lillith for president if nothing else the grammar in the country will impove.


Awww thanks. It would be cool to travel in a helicopter.....

I could erect billboards that say, say what you mean to say how you mean to say it or shut up and go back to school. No bytching no one understands you.

I could fine kids for quitting school and give tax breaks for tuition if they went to college.

lilith401's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:21 PM


Stop with the freaking quoting the whole freaking page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am sensing some consternation here, better do as she says people noway


Verbage is good Lily, I'm giving a partial thumbs up....

Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:22 PM

I could erect billboards that say, say what you mean to say how you mean to say it or shut up and go back to school. No bytching no one understands you.

I could fine kids for quitting school and give tax breaks for tuition if they went to college.


Where's my ballot?

Lily0923's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:23 PM

Verbage is good Lily, I'm giving a partial thumbs up....


Yes, sometimes he talks over my head, but that's to be expected, he is 6 foot 8....

talldub's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:25 PM


Verbage is good Lily, I'm giving a partial thumbs up....

I am partially honoured....


Yes, sometimes he talks over my head, but that's to be expected, he is 6 foot 8....

6' 7, don't have me correct you again! mad laugh

lilith401's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:26 PM
I can't give full one until I meet ya, guy!:banana:

talldub's photo
Tue 09/30/08 04:28 PM
That's OK, am only pulling your leg, gal!