"It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies."

-- Mark Twain, Letters From the Earth

and you my sweet David are just David......And please STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.....Where did I ever say that anyone was less import......show me please.

STUDY READ STUDY READ STUDY READ


There was no greater Love than God's for his Son.......And because of the sacrafices God gave we were given a second chance......

You are clueless David...just like all the people that believe the same as you do......believe as you wish but please don't turn it around so that it fits what you '"want" that is not how it works....ever ever.


THERE IS BUT GOD AND CHRIST....and all the crap you spew about the neighbor being god and the plants and the flowers and the whatever...is just that crap you spew.


Matthew 5:44
But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

OH HOW THIS ABOVE SO FITS.....AND THINK A COINSIEDENCE......NOPE


You really need to study and know what you are fighting before you attempt to do so...because again you have no clue of what you speak. You are the blind and deaf trying to teach that which you are clueless about.


This is why sweet man....that the Bible and all about God and his son are so foreign and you make no sense of it....because you want to re-write it...twist it....turn it to fit your needs...well it just doesn't work that way........

And men created equal is a history term...not a God term.

Once again the ones that spew what they honestly don't know....so how can a conclusion be drawn when all your facts are so screwed up or twisted....It just will never work.

dearest Feral........OMG

twisted, cotton in the ears, blinders, no purpose in life, god as foreign......

do you believe all these of yourself as well?

then all others are SEEN AND FELT AND KNOWN TO YOU AS LESS, that do not agree with you in all ways, lol........

your words give you away, lol.....

one cannot possibly be all the good oneself declares themself to be, as is it not seen, that no one state of good is posssible....

in other words, one is and can only be kind and unkind....

one can be only loving and unloving.....

one can only be sharing and not sharing....

the forced and willed effort to achieve any particular state is off balance in all beliefs, which lead to the exact things you decribe and think all others to be.....

WHY.....because you are a good seeker, for self reasons most, and NOT BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT OTHERS, LOL......

and why such things are indeed foreign to your ears, lol......

why did the pressure of the brass put upon our soilders to GETTING INFORMATION TO GAIN APPROVAL create such inhuman treatment of other humans, even unto hatred, some even being beaten to death?

this same notion is put on people as "god" being this way, and it create ****ing HATRED TOWARD FELLOW MANKIND.....

equal is a histroy term?

your text did not say "all men are created equal in the sight of god"?

but this is not one that any religion wish to hear, so it is disolved, and discarded, as the mind can find ANY PROOF IT NEED TO JUSTIFY ITSELF......

travel on dear women, as the pain of self as greatest, as witnessed in your words......""the worth.....ahhhhhhh my friend that is the best part...because knowing God, His Son will allow me to have the best of everything.....Not because of things but because of their love for me""

yes indeed Feral, we all know it is ALL ABOUT YOU AND WHAT YOU WANT, AND THE UNIVERSE AND ALL WORDS ARE ACTIONS ARE THERE TO SERVE YOU, LOL....

all your words belie your greatest wishes, and no problem, so be it as you wish.....

BUT IF YOU COME AND SAY TO ALL WITH A LOUD VOICE......."I SPEAK THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE INTERPRETATION OF TEXT, AND SPEAK AS GODS MOUTHPIECE, AND ALL BETTER FOLLOW MY WORDS, AND IF YOU DON'T, THAN YOU ARE LOST, AND BOUND FOR HELLS FIRES......

WELL THEN EXPECT ALL OTHER LOGIC TO ABOUND AND BE SPOKEN BACK, AND ALL THE NAMES, AND ALL THE THINGS YOUR MIND WHISPER OF OTHERS, THAT ARE BELIEVED BECAUSE THEY ARE WISHED TO BE, HAVE NO BEARING ON WHAT IS ACTUALLY TRUE AND NOT TRUE.....

not one word of HOW and WHY all others that do not agree are all these things your mind says, lol......

you are as transparent as glass by all your own words spoken, and the day it is seen the rescue of self comes from the words of enemies heard, and not the one's placed around oneself that agree, is the day you see into your own heart, and your words will become consistent.....

do you propose i tell you all the words your ears long to hear, and why they exist, to seek self praise and adualtion, when such good and marvelous things are abundant within you, but to speak them now, before the time you see your own heart and words, is as perpetuating the mirage you have created about self, as all your words describe in detail......

HOW THE BRAIN CAN DECIEVE ITSELF IN BELIEVING IT IS AN ALL KNOWING SELF CONTAINED GURU OF ALL WISDOM, IS THE ANSWER TO ALL THE UNIVERSE OF SELF, AND THEN AFTER, THE ANSWRS TO THE LARGER UNIVERSE, AND NOT THE BIBLE......

the bible used in the time of seeking goodness and peace for self lead to misery of seeing more and more others as evil each day.......

there is no peace found within the pages foer those that believe in it, as the words within are meant to lead to unpeace, to finally in time lead one to look at their own heart, as it was spoken by your own text, the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN LIE WITHIN, the same as to say, not in a book......

how do you propose to know the mysteries of the universe and of god and truth, when you are a mystery to yourself......

how are you not unknown to yourself, when you say all mankind is your friend, when you believe that you will float away on clouds while the earth roast in hells fires....

some friend you are.....if you love others so much, why are you not willing to give up your spot on the "clouds" for all your friends?

but then we all know, your only friends are those that lift you up, as you wish to be lifted up, and why no matter what you say, the universe will put you back down, all the way to the least, to become willing to be equal with all those you deem as unfit and unworthy......

peace

I notice not one of my questions answered....why is that.

You can't twist it and turn it to fit your needs David.....it just cant happen....It has nothing to do with me....

So now because I tell you that you can't twist it I am unkind in your eyes...well so be it....but it still doesn't mean you can twist scripture to fit your needs.

So I am unloving and non sharing.....hmmmmm interesting.

I don't twist things to fit my needs....The Bible just is and you either accept it for that or you don't. If you don't that is fine....BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE AND MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG.....

AND AS FAR AS THIS......WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Why did the pressure of the brass put upon our soilders to GETTING INFORMATION TO GAIN APPROVAL create such inhuman treatment of other humans, even unto hatred, some even being beaten to death?

this same notion is put on people as "god" being this way, and it create ****ing HATRED TOWARD FELLOW MANKIND.....

equal is a histroy term?

your text did not say "all men are created equal in the sight of god"?

Again David the Bible never said "All Men Are Created Equal."

In fact just FYI


The quotation "All men are created equal" is arguably the best-known phrase in any of America's political documents, as the idea it expresses is generally considered the foundation of American government. Thomas Jefferson first used the phrase in the Declaration of Independence as a rebuttal to the going political theory of the day: the Divine Right of Kings. Jefferson borrowed the expression from an Italian friend and neighbor, Philip Mazzei,[1] as noted by Joint Resolution 175 of the 103rd Congress as well as John F. Kennedy in "A Nation Of Immigrants."[2] [3]


So yes I get a lil preturbed when people talk scripture and have no clue what they are talking about.

And the Bible and the scriptures are their to serve "MANKIND" so again thinking it just serves lil ole me is in your head not minel


Again David open you ears listen closely to my words...."YOU CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT." But quote wrong scripture or wrong about God and Jesus and the Bible....and I will be right their pointing it out....Don't like it...Oh well....But for people coming into these threads who are truly seeking.......will hear more then your side they will hear all sides and then draw their own conclusions.

And again lie lie lie shame on you.....You show me once where I have every said this:

"I SPEAK THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE INTERPRETATION OF TEXT, AND SPEAK AS GODS MOUTHPIECE, AND ALL BETTER FOLLOW MY WORDS, AND IF YOU DON'T, THAN YOU ARE LOST, AND BOUND FOR HELLS FIRES......

Speak of what you believe in a logical way that all can understand....I have no problem with that....but no more lies....no more taken text and twisting and turning it to fit the David way.....

What I believe to be truth....Is my God given and country given right......And this my friend you have no say in....just as I have said all along for you to believe as you wish.

NO ONE HAS TO AGREE WITH ME.....EVER

But if a question is put forth....I can only answer for "ME" for my beliefs for what I feel about any given subject. But never ever ever ever have I told anyone believe it or die.......lies lies


And see Daivd this again for me is the bottom line....God knows me...He knows my heart....and for me, myself, and I in the whole scheme of life is all that matters.


Also FYI I know my heart, and my path in life......can you say the same? And ty for thinking that I know it all....But I do not and never claimed to......Do I know about God, Jesus Christ, and the Bible.....yes I do....But that in no way means I know everything...and again David lie lie lie because i have never claimed all the things you accuse me of.

Again speak not of what you know not. If you think the Bible was only used then and not now....again you do not know....If you just take the Old Testament and read it......It is a blueprint for those that didn't want to believe God and what happen to them...But if you think this doesn't apply to today....think again.

and again David don't believe that all the answers to the Universe are in the Bible...totally your choice...But I do and there is nothing you can do to ever ever change that for me....

And of course no peace in the pages for you.....that is not a surprise....but love for me it is full of peace, love, and the future of good things.


And again David.....do you know me? Do you know what I have learned on this planet and what has been shown to me....NO YOU don't. So please don't be so bold in saying that I am a mystery to myself.....BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE. yourself......

Again David.......who are you to say the following which again lie lie lie:

how are you not unknown to yourself, when you say all mankind is your friend, when you believe that you will float away on clouds while the earth roast in hells fires....

I have no rights to give people anything...There relationship as mine with the Lord & Savior is theirs to choose or not to choose....And again fyi I would give up my space in an instant to save others....again you don't have a clue with who this woman is....so don't try and think you do.

AGAIN DAVID GET A CLUE.......MY FRIENDS ARE ALL NOT JUST THOSE THAT AS YOU LIE AGAIN LIFT ME UP.....AND AGAIN GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO JUDGE ANYONE....THERE IS BUT ONE JUDGE....AND IT IS NOT ME.

Feral......

why should any believe anything more than all your words tell of yourself....

i never said you were unkind, lol...

i never said you were unsharing, lol...

i never said you were not loving, lol...

but if one declare themself with al words to be all good, then it is easy to know they are fooling themself, as no one state is possible...

if i say i am wise, then i must also say i am ignorant, or there is deception of mind....

do you not see every word of jesus was trying to tell of how all were equal?

what does love thy neighbor as thyself say.....HE IS EQUAL

what does love thy enemy as thyself mean.....HE IS EQUAL....

if one believe their neighbor is of satan, then no problem, as long as one believes they are of the same, which is to allow the eyes to open to all brightness of light of others, by traveling thru the dark passages of night of all self can be, which release the light of all one is....

are these such perposterous notions....

you have said with all words all i have spoken is lie's, lie's, lie's, but they are deemed lie's, because you turn to disprove, and seek MOST to SEE how you are good, so evidence will be found, lol.....

ask if it can as well be true what the "enemy" says, and you will become the greater leader you wish so bad to be, and are destined as ALL to become......

peace dear fearful leader....

hmmm...I guess somebody´s missing the point in this conversation...let´s go back to the main subject here the BIBLE

what is that dripping off your lips? naughty naughty christian

She has a stripper pole at her house also. Feral is not the stereotypical Christian. I mean that in a good sense. Just curious, how are strippers/exotic dancers viewed in relation to Christianity? Would that particular occupation be frowned upon? What if a young lady was working in one of these establishments in order to pay her college tuition and making time to still go to church on Sundays? How would something like that be handled if in fact discovered by the members of her congregation? I would assume she might be reluctant to volunteer that particular aspect of her personal life.

I can answer this one. My former priest had a cousin that stripped her way through college and it was very well know what she did. She was very active in the congregation and nobody had an issue with what she did. Of course I'm in MA where we're a little more easy then in the bible belt.

The Catholics in particular seem to have lightened up on many issues which used to be problematic for them in years past. Not all of course, but many. It seems to me that harsh discernment projected on a person who is trying to make a living or pay college tuition or raise children should not be acceptable. Not to mention it can open the door for any number of claims of hypocrisy as it relates to the faith.

Oh I love these ones.....get "Your" mind out of the gutter....It is not that....and just FYI Christiand are more then just lovers of God...I am also a woman.....OMG no and a sexual woman Oh no can't be...I also have a stripper pole in my living room...does that make me a bad Christian.......please......

Well I work for an actor who's girlfriend was a stripper....so in that sense not wrong....for me to be a stripper...yes I would not do that....for me to have fun with my husband and in our private home.....thats fine....I think people look so stringent on Christians lives. I have an awesome life, family and have fun each and every day. I would never condone one of our youth stripping and I would talk to her about it. But I also would do it in a way of not judging. And from total love. I personally don't picture any of the youth at my church doing this...but never say never.



always always love the sinner but hate the sin.

I think from a purely secular viewpoint, I would have reason for concern as it relates to someone's welfare if they were stripping or working in that industry. I know the money is phenomenal and a lot of women gravitate to it because they can set their own hours and easily pay for child care or school expenses. I can definitively see the lure of the occupation in that sense. But it can be a hostile environment and potentially dangerous so while I of course would not judge, I might worry a bit.

Hey jair how you be.....

"I see you winding and grinding up on that pole..." AKON & SNOOP DOGG

Hi dear, how have you been??...I noticed you sent me a message some days ago, I could only read it today but I didn´t really get the point of that game!! I read some of the posts there and the Rules but that wasn´t sufice. Maybe you could make it a little clear for me later.

Miss ya