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Hey jair how you be.....
Hi dear, how have you been??...I noticed you sent me a message some days ago, I could only read it today but I didn´t really get the point of that game!! I read some of the posts there and the Rules but that wasn´t sufice. Maybe you could make it a little clear for me later. Miss ya |
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I think from a purely secular viewpoint, I would have reason for concern as it relates to someone's welfare if they were stripping or working in that industry. I know the money is phenomenal and a lot of women gravitate to it because they can set their own hours and easily pay for child care or school expenses. I can definitively see the lure of the occupation in that sense. But it can be a hostile environment and potentially dangerous so while I of course would not judge, I might worry a bit. "I see you winding and grinding up on that pole..." AKON & SNOOP DOGG |
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hmmm...I guess somebody´s missing the point in this conversation...let´s go back to the main subject here the BIBLE
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Have you guys ever heard of BRAINWASH? It´s seems to be some kind of powerful mind control that keeps people thinking like that!
And answering to a questioning about "how easy" God should´ve made things be. Well, I don´t really indersatand why things have to be so complicate. To me, it´s seems like a game. You have to follow the rules (noy easy ones) to achieve the price (heaven). And that´s a little funny. Why does the Bible appeal to golden and chrytal roads and streets since people´s mind will be changed?? if "life" in heaven is going to be any different from here, than why so much preocupation on that!? and why is that so important to spend ALL ETERNITY singing and praising and walking on golden streets?? I don´t think that´s very appealing for me. I definetely don´t want to live in heaven. I keep wondering how boring that would be to live like this! lolol.. |
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Spoken in love..hopefully to wake us all up this very day
Well, I wake up as well as many other people and that´s not exactly God´s work. Some people wake up, some people simply don´t, and that´s not providence, that´s fate. |
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Edited by
Jair
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Thu 09/25/08 09:34 AM
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God didn't create the sin.....Adam and Eve who did the only thing that God said not to do and that was eat from the tree of knowledge.....Was where sin was born.
Well, if He´s a being having complete, unlimited knowledge, awareness, understanding and is able of perceiving all things, why couldn´t He see it coming??...supposing He´s omniscient, He knew man would be contaminated by the sin and that sin would be a fact. Unless He wanted it to happen. But why?? He´s almighty, why in the neck of the woods would he need to start all this hastle?? why not to make things easier?? And why not for God to choose this planet how truly blessed and lucky are we. And I think you miss the whole creation part.....I would suggest a brush up of Genesis....And as far as creation.....l find it much more believable the the speck of dust that fell into the ocean that turned into a tadpole, frog, climbed out turned into a money a great ape then us.....hmmmmm I think no. I would look at the big bang theory as God said and bang it was. I guess I am blessed with an abundance of faith...
Now we´re lucky!!...so that´s what it´s all about!! it means the He didn´t have a plan, He simply didn´t have a purpose!! at the creation point we are even because we haven´t proven yet the fact of the Big bang be the beginning of things neither can any theologist afirm that what´s written in Genesis is a fact or logically explained. And there´s more, if Adam and his wife were the first rational creatures on this planet created clean of evil under God´s protection could be contaminated by mean thoughts and decided to choose eating whatever fruit was prohibited and there was sin. Or even after murdering his brother, Adam and Eve´s firstborns, Cain left that part of the land and fled obeying God´s commandment. Fled where?? the Bible says he arrived at a city...wait...city??...what city??...wasn´t him and his brother, Adam and Eve the only rational beings on earth?? who built this city??...how long is it necessary for a village or even a small community to become a city!?..hundreds of people are necessary, I mean. Well, that, amog other things, doesn´t make any sense to me! |
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I just don´t understand God´s purpose to creat a world with sin. If He´s a so generous and loving and caring and all-knowing being, why in this world would He have this idea of choosing a planet out of Billions in the whole universe only for a, let´s call it "lab test". "Let´s see what comes out of this project", He might have thought. Let´s put some creatures in this environment with all the capable conditions so they can arrange themselves and develop and socialize themselves. Ahh...let´s not forget that they have to worship me so I can be glorified and exalted among all things. Let´s call this species man* and these other ones animal.
*note that He made man from the earth and blew in his nostrils and gave him life...fabulous!! not to say that He took a chunk from man´s ribs to make woman. Well, It is necessary a lot of faith to start believing in that! |
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feralcatlady
Well my dear, I don´t want to create any kind of animosity atmosphere with you just because we´ve discussing this matter and I don´t want to get into the marit of this subject in a way that could change your point of view. I just wanna make clear that I am only and simply showing my point of view as well without interfering on yours or anyone´s beliefs. Continuing, I know a bit about Moses too. I´ve read the Bible sometimes for study purposes as well as some other sacred scriptures pertaining to some other religions. These "so called" Holy Scriptures by some unknown authors who clame to have had a number of God-led directions and guidance seem to me to be some sort of human delirium. The fact that the Bible or any other scrolls are called God´s Words or any other divinity´s words are simply an imposing situation by those who believe in it and owns the "authority" to state such things like, Popes, Priests, Pastors, Bishops or whatever. Back in the 14th - 15th centuries people were totally illiterate and controlled by those who owned the ability to read Latin, Greek or even Hebrew. The most extraordinary point is the fact that Martin Luther could translate into German languages that he barely or didn´t even know how to speak. Nowadays it is nown that most of the sense in translation, mainly from the Greek language, is not so trustful to the original meanings of the writings and that is totally compromising for the integrity and understanding of such Holy Scriptures. For those who want to see whatever come to their minds as a fact by reading the Bible, I cannot argue. Faith is an unbeatable ideological situation which I cannot ponder against. |
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Jair
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I think a lil more examination on your part would be warranted. I have studied both Hebrew, Greek, as well as many many religions before I cam to the conclusion that the Bible is the inspired work of God. I don't think he would otherwise let it be around as long as it has if it were just "written by man" no sir re. And look at just this piece that was done....How truly amazing that different text by different writers and many different times and put it together and it makes perfect sense.....I want to do this with other key words and see...for example satan, sin, etc.
Well, what proves whatsoever anyone has of God existance other than what some scholars have imagined of even stated as being facts? no one can really assure that all of these writings are trully God´s work or words. People guess it!! or simply believe it is true! I wouldn´t really take it for granted. It´d take too much to make it clearer and more acceptable. We need fatcs, concrete actions of God´s power. Something within anyone´s touch. Not simply an imagination that he worked miraculously thousands of years ago. Why isn´t it possible to see his works or even hear His thunder-like voice anymore?" Wasn´t Him who talked to Moses on the top of that mountain and lit his face with his glory while the Israeli army defeated the animy?...that was an era when the world was collapsing with wars and uncertanties, no one would ever imagine how for we (humans) would get. Now our planet experiences the most obscure time of its existance and where´s God to liberate us from evil, to highlight some prophet to lead us to salvation? You could even say that, through His son (Jesus), is the answer for all my questioning. And that´s exactly the point where I fear the Bible is not as trustful as it is supposed to be. So many unclear promises of a second coming of this so called Messiah that have been promised ages ago that his coming would be SOON...well how soon??, it´s been a bit more than two thousand years now!! is that a game so we have to be prepared at anytime for the salvation? Well, in my humble opinion I think that the Biblical writings were written specically for the people at that specific time so poeple wouldn´t fear oppression and could spread the joy to other to relieve suffering from a so troubled and darkened era. It is not meant for the present days. |
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I still don´t really trust it...who can tell me for sure that the Bible is a God-inspried book???
so many people have handled it throughout the centuries, especially the Catholic Church, maybe the first holder of the Scriptures. Many Popes have s elected the writing for their own purposes, in order to influence people all around and make them do whatever they wanted. And to make a long story short, it is not an unabridged work. It is full of gaps and the answer for many obscure things are due to anyone to guess what it really is. That´s why we have so many divisions and derivation of the same teaching method. Priests, Pastors...whoever leaders changed the views and meanings of what´s written there didn´t really fully understand it for sure. What to say about the Dead Sea Scrolls?...why weren´t they accapted as part of the Bible since most of its writings are continuations of some books inserted in the Bible like, John, Mark, Luke and some others. I think the Bible isn´t still trustworthy at all... |
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