Topic: 911 changed everything
madisonman's photo
Thu 09/11/08 08:29 PM
Insider Trading
a. Unknown speculators allegedly used foreknowledge of the Sept. 11th events to profiteer on many markets internationally - including but not limited to "put options" placed to short-sell the two airlines, WTC tenants, and WTC re-insurance companies in Chicago and London.
b. In addition, suspicious monetary transactions worth hundreds of millions were conducted through offices at the Twin Towers during the actual attacks.
c. Initial reports on these trades were suppressed and forgotten, and only years later did the 9/11 Commission and SEC provide a partial, but untenable explanation for only a small number of transactions (covering only the airline put options through the Chicago Board of Exchange).

The evidence of insider trading includes:

Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlines used in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines
Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companies expected to pay out billions to cover losses from the attack -- Munich Re and the AXA Group
Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of financial services companies hurt by the attack -- Merrill Lynch & Co., and Morgan Stanley and Bank of America
Huge surge in purchases of call options of stock of a weapons manufacturer expected to gain from the attack -- Raytheon
Huge surges in purchases of 5-Year US Treasury Notes
http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/11/08 08:39 PM
Was 9/11 an inside job? I don't know, I do know that there are some curious things that surround and have followed that dreadful day.

However, lets face, this country has a history with false flag events and the Anthrax attacks that followed right behind 9/11 certainly was an inside job.

cottonelle's photo
Thu 09/11/08 08:52 PM
Mineta: "During the time that katrina was coming into new orleans, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the hurricane is 50 miles out...the hurricane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the hurricane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??................"




kerbear73's photo
Thu 09/11/08 08:54 PM

Mineta: "During the time that katrina was coming into new orleans, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the hurricane is 50 miles out...the hurricane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the hurricane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??................"







HHAHAHALMAO rofl rofl rofl rofl

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/11/08 09:15 PM
Not that I'm pointing fingers, but why is it, when the weak minded are faced with something they don't have the capacity to wrap their minds around, they instantly go to the "conspiracy theorist" line?

Why is it, when you ask questions about something, like 9/11, or the Kennedy assasination, your labeled a kook?

It just seems to me that it's a pathetic attack line for those who don't have the cognitive capabilities to at the very least take a look and if it's ridiculous then debunk it.

Otherwise, you're just wasting energy.

Here let me help you.

If Bin Laden is so guilty of 9/11, then why hasn't he been charged by the DoJ? Why is it when you go to the FBI's most wanted list and look at all his crimes, 9/11 isn't on that list?

Why did the 9/11 commision have Zelikow on the phone with Karl Rove daily? Why did the same 9/11 comission not address building 7? Why has the official statement on what happened to building 7 changed several times?
What excuse is there for letting flight 77 hit the pentagon, which is the most important military institution above ground?
Is it coincidence that Marvin Bush was head of security for the WTC up to 9/10, when his contract coincidently ran out?

Why did Guiliani decide to send portions of the WTC wreckage off to china to be made into who knows what and other parts of the wreckage to be used as pot hole filler...before investigators had even got a chance to do finish their jobs? That wreckage had the remains of peoples family all through it, would that be the kind of resting place you'd like for your mom?

Speaking of Guiliani, why is it he went on t.v. and said he recieved a warning to get out of the building, but when he was confronted about it by one of the victims family members while on the campaign trail during the primary, he flat lied to her face and said he never received any such warning and never said he did?

It's far far to easy to find unanswered questions about 9/11 and just as easy to find liars associated with it.
To be honest, I know there are criminal elements in our government, there are criminal elements in all governments. You have to have a certain personality (Meglomaniacs) to seek out power for as long as some of the folks we have in our Government have.

usernamefayou's photo
Thu 09/11/08 09:17 PM
What superpower in all of history did what we do? NOBODY. Dilly-dally...beat around the bush...

I sincerely hope that this is all part of a larger plan, such as building bases in the Middle East, the missile defense systems project in Poland, and so forth in preparation.

It's our own fault.......pure and simple. In chess, you throw what you can at the enemy kings and strive to always keep the initiative.....and in the real world.....drawing is not an option.

Puts all this crap straight to rest.

Let me say it again......it's our own fault.

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/11/08 09:28 PM
" Let me say it again......it's our own fault."


Yep. I couldn't agree more.

cottonelle's photo
Thu 09/11/08 09:33 PM
just funny that people got all this proof that 9/11 was a inside job that the goverment just happend to not cover up

i`m weak minded? i`m not the one falling for all this conspiracy theory crap

i got better things to do then to go digging around the internet for false information that someone puts out there because they want everyone to believe that 9/11 was a inside job like they do

now that seems like a waste of energy to me

warmachine's photo
Thu 09/11/08 10:05 PM
I never said 9/11 was a inside job, in fact I explicitly stated that I didn't know. I just have questions.
Used to be that area 51 was just a conspiracy theory along with other underground bases, now thats common knowledge. Used to be that the MKULTRA programs were a conspiracy theory, but then the Clinton administration had to apologize for it after a Congressional hearing uncovered the horrible things that the CIA did to people, now you can see documentaries about it on the Military/discovery/history channels.
Is it just a conspiracy theory that our space program, NASA, was stuffed to the gills with the war criminal Nazi scientists that had developed the V1 and V2 rockets?

When does a conspiracy theory stop being theory and become fact?

Everything I mention is easily provable and not from any of the Truthers websites either.

I also never said that any one poster was weak minded, I made it clear I wasn't pointing fingers, my question about the weak minded was a general one, that you chose to wear the label and then defend yourself against it was your choice.

Asking questions and seeking the truth, whatever that may be is far from a waste of energy, if I'm not speaking the truth about what I posted, then prove it.

Are you going to debate the fact that our Government has a history with false flag events?
Do you have more ammo than the paper thin "conspiracy theorist" label?

If you're only armed with a stick, you shouldn't poke at the guy with the machine gun.

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/12/08 03:16 AM
I did notice that no point I have made was proven in any way to be false. I would think an event of this magnitude and what it has cost our country in blood and treasure would be worthy of a seriouse discussion. Thanks to those who stayed on topic

t22learner's photo
Fri 09/12/08 04:01 AM
Actually, 911 changed nothing in terms of our national discourse... We all took a few months and were civil to each other. That faded and now the gap between right and left is larger than ever.

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/12/08 04:08 AM
I think deep down inside you all know 911 was some kind of fraud, some extreme form of "wag the dog" nothing adds up no matter how you look at it. It truly is the crime of the century

s1owhand's photo
Fri 09/12/08 05:33 AM
cue scary music....Woooooo Ooooooo Oooooooooo....

it was Cheney. laugh laugh laugh laugh
in cahoots with Osama.

rofl

it is the biggest secret of the millenium!
bigger than Colonel Sander's secret recipe!

deep down you know this is true!

laugh laugh laugh laugh

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/12/08 06:17 AM
cue in the music "bring on the clowns" laugh

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Fri 09/12/08 07:25 AM

I think deep down inside you all know 911 was some kind of fraud, some extreme form of "wag the dog" nothing adds up no matter how you look at it. It truly is the crime of the century



just like Pearl Harbor....

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Fri 09/12/08 07:27 AM

cue scary music....Woooooo Ooooooo Oooooooooo....

it was Cheney. laugh laugh laugh laugh
in cahoots with Osama.

rofl

it is the biggest secret of the millenium!
bigger than Colonel Sander's secret recipe!

deep down you know this is true!

laugh laugh laugh laugh


Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent.
George Orwell

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/12/08 07:27 AM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ex87s--98

warmachine's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:20 AM
No conspiracy about Colonel Sanders recipe, he stole it from black folks.

cottonelle's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:56 AM
why is it so hard for people to blame the terrorist who took credit for the attacks? not only attacking once but twice. these people threatened to attack us for years but we ignored them. do we blame our government to keep from having to admit we were wrong to ignore them.they freely admit they worked harder on the second attack than the first to achieve the desired effects. notice we were not the only ones attacked over the years by this group. Yet many would feel more comfortable point fingers at innocent victims rather than the terrorist themselves.

catwoman96's photo
Fri 09/12/08 10:05 AM
Please understand...
Bush and his magical weather machine...they sent hurricane Ike to houston.

he wanted to leave office kinda like he came in office. Big news.