third party pipe dreams are equal to the looney left in one clear regard.

They both ignore history.


That does not change history and that does not rewrite history. That defies history.

The whole of the looney left is sourced in the recalcitrance and beligerance of the liberals that were duped by LBJ, one of their own.

The projected their own failures and embarrassment onto the conservatives in this country.

It starts there, and continues from there in lockstep.


The real problem is the national sin of avarice and greed.

Those two little words encompass all of the frustrations of every one of us.

While the left was redefining itself and parading around redefining this nation bu precept upon precept of half truths and falsehoods to subsequent generations, they were also leaving the store to be minded by any that could stal an advantage and any privilege camouflaged in the same trickery.

Wanting things to be other than they are only hides the way the things are from those that bury their heads in the sand.


"Question Authority" has tripped half of a generation and confused their children.

Respect for authority requires diligence to see that authority is just.

One cannot delegate authority, but one can delegate responsibilities.

In a nation of laws, the rule of law is the authority.

The springboard for that authority is in the deliberate adoption of christian thought.

There is no getting around God's favor.

God's favor is to those that respect authority, be it God's or man's, which is God's as well.

The conservatives have not been able to forget that principle. God reminds through the consequences of obedience to righteous authority.

But in the mix is a plethora of machinations that perplexes only those that are ignorant of the truth.

The truth remains to reward diligence, and the truth testifies of disengenuity by it's very ineffectiveness.

The majority can conclude for iteslf tht God is not the authority over this great nation, but it is God that defends this nation through the diligence of those that trust truth and defy fear and meet challenges constructively.


God would have us deal with the avarice and greed running rampant in this nation. The ungodly of the world are adopting this avarice and greed for themselves, following the example of the American brand.


GOT GUTS?????????????????????????????????

Do I have to be the one to remind you that the NeoCons that you seem to be so enamored with under the Bush umbrella tripled the size of government(mainly in the area of the police state) and has been an extremely destructive force in the area of civil liberties. Not to mention the gutting of the Constitution, I'm sure you remember what that is, right?

When it comes to lying, Bush is a Liberal.
When it comes to denying science, Bush is a liberal.

When it comes to sending others family members into harms way, Bush is a Liberal.
When it comes to wreaking havoc on the Economy, Bush is a Liberal.
When it comes to hiding secrets from the citizens he's supposed to serve, Bush is a Liberal.

When it comes to not really doing anything about national security, by way of leaving our southern border woefully undermanned and susceptible to attack, Bush is a Liberal.
When it comes to denying states rights, Bush is a Liberal.
When it comes to pointing the finger at others for the horrific mistakes and missteps of his Administrations, Bush is a Liberal.

When it comes to policing the world and delving into nation building, running an empire Bush is a Liberal.

That is in fact what Bush is, NeoCons are Liberals who have been mugged.

Bush planned all this?

It all came on his watch quite suddenly.

What would you have him do?

appease them like Europe does?

The wealthy Europeans want more consumers and compliant sheep for their slavery trade. get it?

The mockery of the US is only transference and projection of disguised deceits engendured to create a greater indentured servitude of millions to old money and privilege.

Most Europeans have a great pair of sunglasses and a scooter. give me a break. LOL

Why am i running down Euros? because they are an easy example of the kind of stupidity that coddles arrogantly the culpability for angering ignorant militants to rage.

If that sounds ludicrous, you are right. It is ludicrous.

So, why employ that after the fact to the unknowable except in hindsight accreditting such folly to Bush?

He is representing the office in due diligence, not his personal preferences for making himself king of the world.

Does Bush mean what he says when he says America is about better things or is he covering up a hidden agenda?

He is talking to the world when he speaks at all, as our President.

They take him quite seriously.

so do the terrorists.

so do home grown terrorists.

there is no due process for home grown terrorists under bush's watch. They will be treated as war criminals and not as a law enforcement responsibility.

Mc cain will continue that.

osama nobama will not.

He will only do what Pelosi allows him to do for cookies and milk at snack time.

neocons mugged, my a$$.

Bush is made of greater stuff than a victim.

I don't like it ny more thn you do, but I am not fooled by incomplete analysis foisted upon the public by ptroven liars and half wits.

I wasn't born yesterday, and an eaxample of that is Susskind who is an incompetennt journalist with an agenda. His work is weak and full of loose ends and distractions and mischaracterizations, historically. Typical of the type of discrediting of Bush's intentions by others.

Nothing he says is credible.

nothing most in the media say is credible.

on either side of any issue.


buy time. America needs to buy time.

support Mc Cain.

nobama 2008

Sorry, But I remember a Bush who ran on a platform in 2000 that sounded an awful lot like the one that Ron Paul was marginalized for in '08.

It came on his watch suddenly? SO that memo that was handed to him entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike inside US", you know the one Condi was forced to name, that was suddenly? Bush knew that Clinton had a couple Bin Laden attacks on his watch, so that was suddenly?

I find it amusing, whenever the neocons play word games, whenever someone mentions diplomacy with the so called enemy, they want to change it to appeasement and most of them even go as far as to referrence Chamberlain.

Last I checked, Britain wasn't the country with 750 bases.

The US has become the Milk cow for that old money elite, the Bush family have built their dynasty on that rock, starting with Prescott Bush funding Hitler.

The european citizenry have the same wants as the American citizenry, we both also have globalists who have infiltrated the governments on both sides of the pond like an octopus...alot of times they all hang out together, just so they can compare notes on how they can milk us all a little bit more and move towards the One world crap, or haven't you heard of Bilderberg and the Bohemian Grove?

Bush is NOT representing the office with due dillegence. In fact he has gotten away with stuff that no other president in history has, Nixon was caught spying on people and he was put out of office and had to be pardoned by Ford. Bush did the same thing and with a complicit congress, managed to protect his Global corporation pals at Att and others with immunity for their crimes.
Bush has held nothing but disdain for the Constitution and need I remind you, he swore an oath to protect and defend that document and the spirit in which it stands.

Bush is most definitely about his own agendas, all you have to do is look at all the PDD's, EO and signing statements he uses to sidestep the oversight that is supposed to keep the executive branch in place.

By politicizing the Judicial branch, he's covered himself from the very apparatus that should be there to prosecute him for war crimes and murder, let alone treason against the republic.

I know he's talking to the world, he's the son and grandson of some seriously facsist globalists.

This retarded notion of homegrown terrorists is just the next step, in every oppresive regime, when they create these brownshirt systems to root out "terrorists" it always gets turned inward on the population that it was supposed to protect. Case in point, the bloated P.O.S. called the terror watch list.

How do you feel knowing, Pelosi, who you've done nothing but bash, has protected KingGeorge from the impeachment and prosecution he deserves?

True conservatives know that NeoCons are exactly as I described them: Liberals who have been mugged. Regular liberals want to grow the nanny state and do their da*nedest to acheive it, NeoCons as well increase the size and scope of government, but it's always in the area of the Police state as opposed to the nanny state.

Bush is made of greater stuff? greater stuff than what, he strikes me as a marmy, mealy mouthed little puppet who would lick boots in front of CNN if he thought his Daddy and Cheney wanted it so.

That being said, McBama is no better.

Oh and for the record, America can't buy time, 9 trillion $$ deficeit, remember, right now America couldn't afford a big and tasty, the check would bounce! Thats also a severe symptom of exposure to Bush Co.

Sadly, i was eating doritos while reading this.

Thank God for cool ranch =D

well, we can't be too hard on Clinton for being a believer in "due process".

Can you imagine if Gore had won?

9 trillion in debt didn't begin with Bush, and it won't shrink under Mc Cain or nobama.

automaker bailouts to the tune of 28 billion, grabbing freddie and fannie under Ginnie mae charters to the tune of almost a trillion , a book written before 2000, titled, " The coming Real Estate Crash".

Almost verbatim as warned by this book.

All because Clinton eased lending restrictions to put every American in a home with a mortgage.

Where do any of these people get off?

Whether or not the globalists succeed in getting World inc. together is not going to be hindered by any of us that would like to live in the past, my friend.

No matter who is in the White house, and who is running Congress, and who sits on the supreme Court for life, we still have to move forward withouty a clue as to what will happen next.


But one thing is certain.

Raising taxes to bribe the citizens of this country with entitlements is going to add to that deficit, create more distance between the rich and poor and increase the volitility of advantage and privilege through avarice and greed upon this nation.

This nation is already bankrupt.

The world is teetering on bankruptcy right alongside this consumer driven delusion.

Socialism and capitalism are both ill conceived contrivances but history wrestles with both as though they were one from the vantage of the rich and powerful.

They are unaffected by any of it as long as they have control of the economic cycles and the world currencies.an yeah, yerah, yeah, we can whine about the groups attributed with being complicit with the rich. Do you really think they give a hoot whether or not they are labeled and jeered at ?

So, is it the Masons and the Shrine that hold the cards or Hitler's spooks that are the CIA and KGB that deal the cards?

It's all irrelevant, really.

We can vote with our wallets, disengage, simplify our lives, and even change the course and direction of this nation with seemingly insignificant and powerless means.

Since when must we be held hostage by any that are told to us as having us by the throat?

From the beginning, this nation has had it's wealthy class and ruling class which fought, bled and struggled to keep a noose off their necks and lead balls from piercing their hearts for resisting kings and emporors.

It was covetousness, no doubt.

The ruse has been the pretty words of nobler ideals, and many harbor those ideals as being meritorious.

How can we judge whether or not the leaders of our nation are not also enamored with petriotic fervor for higher ideals and a greater morality for mankind?

the wealthy risk it all.

The powerful of this world risk it all.

Climbers risk it all to attain.

The ambitious risk it all to taste.

I am a jaded cynic but I am also pragmatic.


I won't dispute that "neo cons" are not conservatives. Ican't. I ignore them.

I can't stand to defend liberals. They are confused and blinded by unrealistic expectations for government as a protector and provider.

I won't stand to defend alternative lifestyles. The family unit is basically all there really is concerning posterity. Mom and dad and the kids.

Religious preoccupations are altogether dangerous because legislating morality is inmpossible and nobody is qualified to establish the dictates of conscience.



Battling avarice and greed will never be waged as a direct imposition of force upon the those with the means to buy insulation from affront.

But it can be overcome by universal abstentions and disengaging the lust for trinkets.

No?

then the rich win.



Americans are given better.

America does not realize how powerful the little people are, nor how valuable all the little insignificant simple people are.


You think about that.

It is the insignificant that are doted upon by the high and mighty.

Before you think I have lost my mind and reduced my comments to absolute drivel, ask yourself if any nation in history has ever led to so many being lifted out of the stone age and invited to join in the fun and embrace even the remotest similarities to this culture without finding this nation irresistible.

For all it's problems, the littleguys decide how the high and mighty sway.


Think on that.

How was this wrestled from tyrants and kings and dictators and self proclaimed gods over the mellenia?

figure that out and you will have the prize.

Anything is possible.

Nothing is a foregone conclusion.

No mess of man outlives simple men.

No matter the sheer force of will, the high and mighty need the meek and lowly and humble and simple more than thy need their luxuries.


Mc Cain is one of these men that can move the high and mighty and remain a servant with a contrite heart.

Men like this are not born this way but born to find the way.

trust him to do well.

the alternative is just so wrong on so many levels.

remember, it is the little people that move history.


it's quite humorous actually.


Now then, it is everybodys turn to laugh at me, but I am serious.

even though i am laughing at how utterly ridiculous I sound.

I know its true.

fear nothing.

peace, out.

Phil Gramm (R-TX), baby. He's been the one leading the deregulation charge that's largely responsible for the housing crisis and our teetering financial insolvency. He's made many of the rich richer along the way, and now my grandchildren are holding the bag.

Put your Clinton binky away, stop lying, and face reality.

Oh, and John McCain wants to make his good friend Gramm Sec. of the Treasury...

yeah right!!!!!

Warmachine isn't defending dems in any way you know. Clinton is almost as guilty as Bush when it comes to messing things up. For decades now both parties have been meeting their "status quo"

Clinton was too busy fighting off an Impeachment pushed through by the sex-obsessed Right to be able to do what he was voted into office to do..maybe if he had been allowed to do his job 9/11 might have never happened..but the Right had to get all bent out of shape because the man got a little jiggy with an aide...pleeeeeze,. By the way, anyone who thinks Bush is a respected figure in the world or is taken seriously when he speaks, needs to travel out of the country more often....

There you go again separating lefties and righties. The followers may be different but those in office are the same. Clinton got involved in more foriegn conflicts than Bush did, he just had less publicity. Who point is both men had the same relative status quo. Dems a rpubs are pretty much the same party now. The reason Bush did so much damage is just because he played off 9/11.

But yeah, not many actually respect Bush. People are just getting tired of seeing the U.S. wherever they go. The answer to this is a change in foriegn policy. Unfortunately it's only third party memebers that are trying to do that.

Yeah, you've got nothing laughing boy.

Great OP.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
-- Aristotle


It tends to be seen as simple----- 'mine is better than yours'

or 'conversion tactics' because this is where your loyalties should rest.

Take notice there are people who do not stand on one side or the other-

And using terms such as 'Libs' 'radical' 'neo' this or that, is baiting and confrontation tactics that are not productive to a geniune debate of educated thoughts.

It is strong arm- and noted as such.

Personally I am less impressed when it comes to a speech on why 'your party sux' and 'why we rule'
such as 'we are just great'--and you will lose and be a loser .. basically.

That falls on blind eye--- myself I scroll past 95 percent of posts that are plainly just intention of being offensive-

In contrast posts with content that seems supported in a respectable format I will follow, regardless if it is promoting dem or rep, etc...

Because I am interested in everything- except that attack based post(ing).