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Topic: is there logical proof of god?
EMIT's photo
Thu 11/06/08 10:32 AM
The word "MASTER" can be misunderstood by many people today.
When the Bible made reference to "MASTER" it was refereing to our creator "JEHOVAH" and our deceiever "SATAN" in a divinely supreme term.

Jehovah as our loving creator has viewed himself as a loving Master, one that cherishes makind and provides for each one, even the wicked ones he provides for, and how? The rains,snows and the sun came upon everyone, the governments has to find food and other suppies for their own countries, will you not agree that the wicked eat and drink and get married too?

Satan as a master, views himself as a Master Worker, he influences people to rob, murder, commit other crimes and engage in unwholesome activities everyday, people seeks their own pleasures and way of life.

NB: Not all bad deeds are influenced by Satan, some people chose to take that course of life, or it may be, that they were faced with one choice"

So, to say that we have for ourselves a master is not a bad confession "IF", we are belonging to JEHOVAH our creator and loving master.

JasmineInglewood's photo
Thu 11/06/08 10:48 AM

I so want to read what you have to say David, but I lose the will to live after the first page ...

Its too verbose and the wording is ... too much like hard work.
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agreed. i'm glad i wasn't the only one who thought so

EMIT's photo
Thu 11/06/08 11:16 AM
In Colosians 4:1, the Bibles admonishes the earthly "MASTERS' (Humna Governments) to keep doing roghteousness to their "SLAVES" ((CITZENS, knowing that you have a Master in heaven.

If you have a family, are you not a Master, if you are married, are you not a ,Master?
Persoanlly, the word Master is not abad word, it depends on which term it is used.

TelephoneMan's photo
Thu 11/06/08 11:37 PM
As my philosophy teacher said:

1) no one can prove that God exists...

but...

2) no one can prove God DOES NOT exist....

Britty's photo
Thu 11/06/08 11:50 PM

As my philosophy teacher said:

1) no one can prove that God exists...

but...

2) no one can prove God DOES NOT exist....



flowerforyou

iaman's photo
Fri 11/07/08 02:31 AM
Life is so complex . No one ha a proof that there is one God or multiple Gods or no god at all . If we believe there is a god who created us then the burning question is : who created this God ?.

iaman's photo
Fri 11/07/08 02:31 AM
Edited by iaman on Fri 11/07/08 02:32 AM
Double Post .

Krimsa's photo
Fri 11/07/08 02:36 AM

Double Post .


I think humans created the entire concept of God and Goddess and humans came to be in the state we are now through the evolutionary process. We are also in constant transition so who knows what we will come up with next. At some point the concept of God might become antiquated and we will look back upon it with fond amusement. Well aside from all the murder and mayhem religion has caused. huh

Because of course my invisible man is better than your invisible man.

fdp1177's photo
Fri 11/07/08 06:12 PM
Oh yeah?! My giant invisible frog-god is better than your invisible man.

If you don't believe that we'll beat you bloody and then perform other cruel and painful tortures upon you in the name of our loving savior until you believe in him.

EMIT's photo
Sat 11/08/08 08:44 AM


Double Post .


I think humans created the entire concept of God... At some point the concept of God might become antiquated and we will look back upon it with fond amusement...


No one can beat down another for what he or she believes concerting GOD, however, we can share our views, whether they appear to be evidence, fact, fiction or opinion.

Well, my opinion is id based on factual evidence, and it is some thing which we both experienced and is still experiencing.

Lets look at our brain for example; scholars,scientists and high-tech experts will agree that the brain of one human being can store all the information in the world over a period of years.

Now, you have a computer which you have used to post this message, your fingers did what you wanted, you have the ability to understand on your own, to communicate as yoy prefer.

If mankind did not program a computer, how will it ever have gotten its information? Will you call that knowledge? No, because it cannot think or act on its own, so just like the computer needs us to do manipulate it, will you not agree that we are also specially and specifically designed by some force rather higher and stronger that us?

God has made us in his own likeness, he gave us many abilities, but we however sometimes, refuse to function as he is expecting, for example; saying that there is no God!
You have more than a million muscles in your body, most op which you use when you make a smile or even to stand.
I can continue to list many things which are scientific and just have not yet touch on what the bible say, yes, i know that God exist, and way i will know is that you are understanding what I'm saying and you will comment in what i say earlier, if not now, maybe later... this is called leading statement.

Krimsa's photo
Sat 11/08/08 09:05 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sat 11/08/08 09:06 AM
No I would not agree with you at all. I am a firm believer in Biological Evolution and that does not merely apply to human beings but indeed all living organisms. I do not hold ANY faith in the bible, Christianity or a lot of hocus pocus written down around 3000 years ago by a bunch of agenda driven men. Im not falling for that lunacy and its simply my opinion on the matter.

Yes the human body is an amazing feat of nature. I never stated otherwise? So is the body of a chimpanzee or a gorilla or a rabbit. All animals are astonishing in their beauty, ingenuity, and ability to adapt to their environments. None are more adept than homo sapien in redefining and specializing these skills. .

Does that prove the existence of a God or Goddess as a Creatrix or "intelligent designer"? No. It does not rule it out either. But certainly the bible and Christianity would not be my spirituality of choice if I were to lean in one direction or another. But if you are happy with it, eh, more power to you. happy

Jill298's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:03 AM
Edited by Jill298 on Sat 11/08/08 10:04 AM


Double Post .


I think humans created the entire concept of God and Goddess and humans came to be in the state we are now through the evolutionary process. We are also in constant transition so who knows what we will come up with next. At some point the concept of God might become antiquated and we will look back upon it with fond amusement. Well aside from all the murder and mayhem religion has caused. huh

Because of course my invisible man is better than your invisible man.
I agree Krimsa... people have been creating a God since the beginning of time. It's no different than the Greek Gods. But if I was out there Hailing Zues people would think I've gone insane... But it's perfectly acceptly and almost required of me to go to a church and praise Jesus and the bible. People create Gods to answer the questions they otherwise can't answer.

sgtpepper's photo
Mon 12/29/08 05:31 AM

As my philosophy teacher said:

1) no one can prove that God exists...

but...

2) no one can prove God DOES NOT exist....




Its the perfect crime..

Krimsa's photo
Mon 12/29/08 08:02 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Mon 12/29/08 08:02 AM
I pretty much just dont think the "god" depicted in the bible exists. There might be something else that would appeal to me more. :tongue:

Giocamo's photo
Mon 12/29/08 08:05 AM


As my philosophy teacher said:

1) no one can prove that God exists...

but...

2) no one can prove God DOES NOT exist....



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