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My oh my oh my........................ how people seem to forget CHIP....but that does not surprise me.....selective memory still exists I see.................. Paranoia seems to be striking the anti Palin folks..... I am getting a big chuckle out of all of this.....  Lindyy  What about the CHIP??? |
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I'm an Idealist...would like debates where candidates talk about the issues. Not a mudslinging - media polished add campaign. Reminds me of the book The Selling of the President. no cahones. shoulda had those town halls and a few extra debates. made him look like a wimp. not picking hillary also wimply. palin is thin but not wimpy - so far. mccain - also not wimpy. biden - kinda wimpy. but obama is the wimpiest.  sorry - i couldn't resist.  CHIP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children%27s_Health_Insurance_Program |
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What if you end up losing your job due to the floundering economy and your child gets sick? Tough luck? Someday you may need it. IF IF IF, that doesn't mean I support it. Socialized health care is horrible. Wait times are forever, you have to have "permission" to see a specialist. You don't get to pick you own drs. It is going to be more of a tax burden for worse coverage than I already have. My company has 10 years of backlogged work and they are a defense contractor that also works international. I think I have pretty good job security. Glad you have job security. But what about the millions of people that do not? Bush has all but ignored the economy by making people think there are terrorist around every corner. He has been playing a "shell game" with the economy. A nation cannot be secure without a strong economy and ours is slipping very fast. Don't believe the McCain/Palin ticket are ready or able to address the situation. It is about more than oil prices. It is about how many will lose their jobs and benefits. Sorry, but the governments job is not to provide health care. The government does a lot of stuff that i don't think is really there job already. Socialized is going to be a burden to the even more millions that already have health care because we are going to have to get a worse system than what we already have. Again it will be a scaled system, so the more you make the higher % you will have to pay. |
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It's deeper than that, there's a whole heckuva lot less threat that Obama is going to keel over in his sleep and we have a president Biden, With McCain though, thats not so certain. He's had some run in's with the lethal form of Melanoma and he's old enough now, that he might give himself an anuerysm trying to pass a stool. That means we would be stuck with a President who, quite frankly, reminds me of something from the 30's & 40's era Germany. Would still rather her than Obama. Why is that? I am truly curious. Because I am extremely against socialized health care and would never vote for someone who so strongly supported it. I don't think that will happen in the next 4 years. It is going to take years of hard work to fix Bush's mess. Socialized health care has nothing to do with anything Bush did. If this is 'the reason' you might want to recheck his stand on healthcare. It is a choice, not a demand. It is a offer. People who don't have health coverage will be covered if they want to take it. It isn't universal health coverage in which you suggest. I have not seen this in the form you present it as. H. Clinton was the big push for Universal Health coverage. If you research through the Senate/Congress--what is going to floor, you would see what is going through the door and what isn't-- who is fighting for what and who isn't. His big fight is for Children. Making sure children are all under a health plan. He has ALREADY been fighting for this for a long time. McCain votes against this bill everytime it comes up. We have so many children without health coverage and that is just not right. While we spend so much money Per DAY fighting/funding a war- we can not insure our children? What is wrong with that? It is a big reason, not the only reason. You know Obama also helped draft the Amnesty Bill? He supports higher taxes, more social program spending, which in turn is more government control, which is the exact opposite of what I want. Again, that is why I am a Ron Paul supporter. |
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I'm an Idealist...would like debates where candidates talk about the issues. Not a mudslinging - media polished add campaign. Reminds me of the book The Selling of the President. no cahones. shoulda had those town halls and a few extra debates. made him look like a wimp. not picking hillary also wimply. palin is thin but not wimpy - so far. mccain - also not wimpy. biden - kinda wimpy. but obama is the wimpiest. sorry - i couldn't resist. CHIP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children%27s_Health_Insurance_Program A line from that link: "Despite SCHIP, the number of uninsured children continues to rise, particularly among families that cannot qualify for SCHIP." That is unacceptable. |
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What if you end up losing your job due to the floundering economy and your child gets sick? Tough luck? Someday you may need it. IF IF IF, that doesn't mean I support it. Socialized health care is horrible. Wait times are forever, you have to have "permission" to see a specialist. You don't get to pick you own drs. It is going to be more of a tax burden for worse coverage than I already have. My company has 10 years of backlogged work and they are a defense contractor that also works international. I think I have pretty good job security. Glad you have job security. But what about the millions of people that do not? Bush has all but ignored the economy by making people think there are terrorist around every corner. He has been playing a "shell game" with the economy. A nation cannot be secure without a strong economy and ours is slipping very fast. Don't believe the McCain/Palin ticket are ready or able to address the situation. It is about more than oil prices. It is about how many will lose their jobs and benefits. Sorry, but the governments job is not to provide health care. The government does a lot of stuff that i don't think is really there job already. Socialized is going to be a burden to the even more millions that already have health care because we are going to have to get a worse system than what we already have. Again it will be a scaled system, so the more you make the higher % you will have to pay. I mentioned NOTHING about health care. 
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so..if government doesnt exist to guarantee the welfare of the citizens or insure their rights to pursue life, liberty and happiness...then what "exactly" is the role of government?
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I'm an Idealist...would like debates where candidates talk about the issues. Not a mudslinging - media polished add campaign. Reminds me of the book The Selling of the President. no cahones. shoulda had those town halls and a few extra debates. made him look like a wimp. not picking hillary also wimply. palin is thin but not wimpy - so far. mccain - also not wimpy. biden - kinda wimpy. but obama is the wimpiest. sorry - i couldn't resist. CHIP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children%27s_Health_Insurance_Program Wikipedia is NOT a credible source for what sound a dog makes. It is a site that allows ANYONE in the breathing world to edit. Use wikipedia if you'd like, but people with an education won't go to that site for anything other then to edit for kicks.   
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so..if government doesnt exist to guarantee the welfare of the citizens or insure their rights to pursue life, liberty and happiness...then what "exactly" is the role of government? to proselytize for the devil.   
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Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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I think there are some major discrepancies in things she says.
She said she "told the Congress thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere". The truth is that she supported the bridge to nowhere while running for Governor of Alaska in 2006. Once Congress had decided not to fund it, she then claimed she opposed it. Hmmmmm. She claims to be against earmarks. The truth is that as Mayor of Wasilla she obtained over $20 million in earmarks for a town of under 10,000 people. As governor of Alaska she has requested almost $1/2 billion in earmarks. Yikes! |
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so..if government doesnt exist to guarantee the welfare of the citizens or insure their rights to pursue life, liberty and happiness...then what "exactly" is the role of government? That is one of the philosophical reasons for government. Only thing you missed was to provide for the common defense of those governed. Founding Fathers knew that and the difficulty in putting to much power in one person or branch of government. That is the reason for our system of checks and balances. Unfortunately we did not listen to George Washington and developed political parties. Which has resulted in a system of "point and blame". JMO |
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I think there are some major discrepancies in things she says. She said she "told the Congress thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere". The truth is that she supported the bridge to nowhere while running for Governor of Alaska in 2006. Once Congress had decided not to fund it, she then claimed she opposed it. Hmmmmm. She claims to be against earmarks. The truth is that as Mayor of Wasilla she obtained over $20 million in earmarks for a town of under 10,000 people. As governor of Alaska she has requested almost $1/2 billion in earmarks. Yikes! Winx, There ya' go being an "idealist". You know better than to believe politicians. Yet you are correct. Actions speak louder than words. 
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I think there are some major discrepancies in things she says. She said she "told the Congress thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere". The truth is that she supported the bridge to nowhere while running for Governor of Alaska in 2006. Once Congress had decided not to fund it, she then claimed she opposed it. Hmmmmm. She claims to be against earmarks. The truth is that as Mayor of Wasilla she obtained over $20 million in earmarks for a town of under 10,000 people. As governor of Alaska she has requested almost $1/2 billion in earmarks. Yikes! Winx, There ya' go being an "idealist". You know better than to believe politicians. Yet you are correct. Actions speak louder than words. Idealist, eh? Yes, actions speak louder than words. Another: Sarah Palin not only supported the Bridge to Nowhere, she made treks to Washington DC to fight for it. She only stopped advocating for the bridge after there was a public outcry against it. Palin also kept nearly all the money allotted for the bridge after the project was ended. This is what really gets to me. 
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Remember, it is the Presidential Candidate you are voting for. Not the VP. Though in the uniqueness of this election the later does need to be considered.
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I'm an Idealist...would like debates where candidates talk about the issues. Not a mudslinging - media polished add campaign. Reminds me of the book The Selling of the President. no cahones. shoulda had those town halls and a few extra debates. made him look like a wimp. not picking hillary also wimply. palin is thin but not wimpy - so far. mccain - also not wimpy. biden - kinda wimpy. but obama is the wimpiest. sorry - i couldn't resist. CHIP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children%27s_Health_Insurance_Program Wikipedia is NOT a credible source for what sound a dog makes. It is a site that allows ANYONE in the breathing world to edit. Use wikipedia if you'd like, but people with an education won't go to that site for anything other then to edit for kicks. How true. Will not allow it as a resource from any of my students. 
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I think there are some major discrepancies in things she says. She said she "told the Congress thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere". The truth is that she supported the bridge to nowhere while running for Governor of Alaska in 2006. Once Congress had decided not to fund it, she then claimed she opposed it. Hmmmmm. She claims to be against earmarks. The truth is that as Mayor of Wasilla she obtained over $20 million in earmarks for a town of under 10,000 people. As governor of Alaska she has requested almost $1/2 billion in earmarks. Yikes! Winx, There ya' go being an "idealist". You know better than to believe politicians. Yet you are correct. Actions speak louder than words. Idealist, eh? Yes, actions speak louder than words. Another: Sarah Palin not only supported the Bridge to Nowhere, she made treks to Washington DC to fight for it. She only stopped advocating for the bridge after there was a public outcry against it. Palin also kept nearly all the money allotted for the bridge after the project was ended. This is what really gets to me. They should call the McCain-Palin ticket the Ticket to Nowhere. |
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I think there are some major discrepancies in things she says. She said she "told the Congress thanks but no thanks on the Bridge to Nowhere". The truth is that she supported the bridge to nowhere while running for Governor of Alaska in 2006. Once Congress had decided not to fund it, she then claimed she opposed it. Hmmmmm. She claims to be against earmarks. The truth is that as Mayor of Wasilla she obtained over $20 million in earmarks for a town of under 10,000 people. As governor of Alaska she has requested almost $1/2 billion in earmarks. Yikes! Winx, There ya' go being an "idealist". You know better than to believe politicians. Yet you are correct. Actions speak louder than words. Idealist, eh? Yes, actions speak louder than words. Another: Sarah Palin not only supported the Bridge to Nowhere, she made treks to Washington DC to fight for it. She only stopped advocating for the bridge after there was a public outcry against it. Palin also kept nearly all the money allotted for the bridge after the project was ended. This is what really gets to me. They should call the McCain-Palin ticket the Ticket to Nowhere. Good one.
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Remember, it is the Presidential Candidate you are voting for. Not the VP. Though in the uniqueness of this election the later does need to be considered. Yes, there is a uniqueness here. McCain's health and age give me cause to look at Palin closer. |
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