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Topic: Why are you here?
Lord_Psycho's photo
Sat 08/30/08 02:39 PM


Im here to cause Destruction and CHAOS!!! LOL muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahha


Yeh right. laugh
oh yeah baby u kno ulike it!!! u love having Chaos whereever u go BABY!!!! LOL

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Sat 08/30/08 02:58 PM
This is one of those questions that people normally labor over. I’m sort of embarrassed to say, I’m not one of those people. :tongue:

I’m here in fact because my parents got frisky on some military leave road trip they took. I forget the details now but they were not authorized for sexual intercourse so it was kind of romantic in that sense.smooched But that’s how I came to be in existence. No other big reason that I’m aware of.

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Sat 08/30/08 03:37 PM



Im here to cause Destruction and CHAOS!!! LOL muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahahahahahahha


Yeh right. laugh
oh yeah baby u kno ulike it!!! u love having Chaos whereever u go BABY!!!! LOL


Not really. I wish I could get more organized actually.
Chaos is easy. I would settle for a balance of the two actually.

Now where did I put my keys? Hummmm....


:banana: :banana:

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Sat 08/30/08 05:38 PM
Im here to tell u all to go out and to get laid!!! LOL!! well thats wat Im gonna do 2nite!!! hahahahahha

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Sun 08/31/08 11:09 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Sun 08/31/08 11:11 AM

Thanks David. I agree, we are here to learn wisdom and I might ad that we are here to learn to love.

Most of all I think we came here on a mission to find joy in being.

Even the most "evil" uncaring man needs to feel loved, wants to love... but in learning how to love the "evil" will fall away and be replaced with good.

JB


it would seem the the question is then "what is love"as this would need to be known, if this is what is to remove "evil" from the planet......

the churches primary message has been to love, and it seems has created "less love".........

this is to put it kindly and gently for the weak of heart...

love as the focus in life is "disator in the making", as it convinces all the more that one does not love, and therefore it becomes as true, as ALL that is created in each human life is the total essence of all that is BELIEVED.......

if there is pain or discomfort or evil or strife or misery or sadness, then the whole truth cannot be known, or there is no truth in truth, which create ALL THINGS......

humans just have never focused on ALL AS TRUTH, and everything is said to contain be truth or not truth, and a knowing of even what truth is be fundemental for the uncreation of anything created that is less than desireable.......

if the mind see some, as some "love" then divide is first created in the MIND.....

if some things be seen as "truth" then divide is first created in the MIND.....

anything touched that has divide in itself will create MORE DIVISIVNESS........

if love be the primary directive of the conscious mind, since there is no ONE defintion, then the mind is tethered to an illusion of feelings that have no power to create.......

if love is and contain all, and it MUST be, or there is devisiveness first created in the mind of one, which control EACH reaction of any to another, then by REACTION, all that is already is perpetuated by default, without even seeing HOW.........

it is no different with the word "noraml"........

if society takes one defintion or action to be as "normal", then divide that has NO WAY to create unity or peace is had as a guyide or directive of the conscious mind, which directive of the mind by what is believed create ALL, and this will eliminate some and include some......divide

all is normal if the word "normal" is to be used, or it create more of what has already been created.........MISERY OF NO UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO CREATE UNDERSTANDING

if a parent believe "they" are normal, by reaction OF ONESELF, to this belief held by self, they will create in a child the belief the child is "not normal", totally inputed into the child without any conscious effort or will, but just the same, the child comes to believe the same as the parent believes of itself, by all reaction and words, and serve as PROOF of all the parent believed as a LIVING CREATION.......

of course, in todays society, where normal, love, wise, kind, and all such things are sought to be defined by self professed wisdom, there is great perpetuation of the notion the child is at fault if there is anything not desireable......

if there is wisdom, how can it create what is undesirable.....it cannot, or there is no such thing as wisdom, or truth, or love, or power of intent, and this is not true obviously, as look around at all that has been crerated thus far that serves as a reminder each day we are creating all....

there is not one parent that takes full responsibility, saying this is MY creation, as this is a total creation from ME, as EACH reaction has shaped the creation, that will not in short time find the way to make anything wished......

child gives action......parent reaction.......parent controls next reaction of child, so parent or anyone that sees reaction power as "creation power" holds the "power to create" what they wish.....

if something is created not wished for, blame keep this power from EVER being known, understood, so therfore no use of this power, so it is given away by default.......

children USE THIS "power of creation", as they act by instinct of reaction more than "trained" parents do, and use it daily, to manipulate parents actions by consciously without any forced will excersising any means avialable to accomplish what is wished in return from parent, lol.......

in eseence, they come to create thier parents, lol.....look around, it is obvious, as the parent is soon led as a dog by a chain by the childs WANTS.......

give anything ALL IT WANTS, create an ego maniac that soon destroyes itself, just as society as a whole has done EVERY TIME....

because parent seeks to "love" which is actually not love at all, rather a desire to "react" to others in the way one wishes to be treated back, which is called by some "selfish love", but even this is not "selfish love", as this one that does such does not even love themself, but rather only seeks to "avoid pain" in returned treatment, and this is not "LOVE" at all, nor can this motive EVER know true love, or create it, never seeing it is NOT love, as the essence of the foundation for seeing what true love is, which is the only way to live in any such state of mind, or promote it in all around oneself.......

if the parent does not control "reaction power to create", then by default it is given to the child, for the child to create itself, by the parent not consciously seeing that REACTION POWER is what create ALL..........

how is there ANY difference in this "creation sequence" in the case of any human surrounding oneself.......

if one say they believe in "god" it is all of the same essence of principle, and why even text said to see ones "sin" or only "innocence of not knowing enough to create what is MOST WISHED.........

if humans do not the power of reaction, then we are as robots, mindless drones, with no power.......how is this as true.....

we have created an empire called the world, and one would say we have no power.....

it is natural for the brain to blame another brain for ones own reaction, which is to give up all power of wisdom, but this never allow any being to come to understand how to create what they wish, growing into higher intelligent beings.......

an "evil" man sit in front of me, that raped a women yesterday.....

what is the "love" reaction?

how is the solution to evil as seeing all beings wish for love and be loved....

not one thing born does not contain these same wishes and attributes when born.....

how does this guide to more power to create what we wish?

how does it tell HOW to react to create more good?

this message has been preached from the rooftops for ages, and has yet to accomplish unity and peace, rather the opposite, disunity and no peace......

the time of directives without power is has to be over, as this be nothing more than religion in it's root form, and none that wish for more common good wish for this.......

to serve the ideas of "good" in the mind as the whole truth is a religion of the mind, from where all failure of peace begin.........


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Sun 08/31/08 11:15 AM
People confuse "Love" with emotion. Love is not emotion.

Love is awareness. It is an awareness of a connection with all things. It is feeling, not emotion. It is understanding that all is part of you and the awareness of seeing yourself in others.

JB

Jess642's photo
Sun 08/31/08 12:21 PM
Why am I here?


I guess I was up for the challenge..... someone asked and I volunteered for this mission...

I find the learning, (getting of wisdom) and love.. (the universal spirit kind)...a bit of a giggle... I have spent the past 25 odd years unlearning all the crapola we are force fed in life....

I dunno if I agree with the learning bit... I suspect it is more remembering.

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Sun 08/31/08 12:44 PM
I too don't believe that we are here to learn.

What would we be learning?

The biggest lessons I've learn from life is that its impossible to come to a consensus with humans. laugh

I've also learned the true nature of the world is indeed dog-eat-dog. What more is there to learn?

I think I've learned how to be a good parent. But that seems to be truly useless information since I have no children.

I think I've also learned how to be a good partner, but again it seems like futile information that can't be applied without a partner to share it with.

Most of the talents and skills that I've learned in life are pretty much going to waste simply because I'm not in a position to make good use of them.

Also, if life is some sort of school it's truly an inefficient one. There are very few good mentors. Authoritarians usually make absolutely terrible mentors. If life were some kind of school there should be more good teachers around.

I think it would be pretty hard to pass a final exam when we aren't even aware of what the subject is.

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Sun 08/31/08 12:46 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Sun 08/31/08 12:46 PM

I too don't believe that we are here to learn.

What would we be learning?

The biggest lessons I've learn from life is that its impossible to come to a consensus with humans. laugh

I've also learned the true nature of the world is indeed dog-eat-dog. What more is there to learn?

I think I've learned how to be a good parent. But that seems to be truly useless information since I have no children.

I think I've also learned how to be a good partner, but again it seems like futile information that can't be applied without a partner to share it with.

Most of the talents and skills that I've learned in life are pretty much going to waste simply because I'm not in a position to make good use of them.

Also, if life is some sort of school it's truly an inefficient one. There are very few good mentors. Authoritarians usually make absolutely terrible mentors. If life were some kind of school there should be more good teachers around.

I think it would be pretty hard to pass a final exam when we aren't even aware of what the subject is.



If this is a school... I don't want to meet the hall monitors!!! :wink: laugh


Is that why I am always in detention? ohwell

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Sun 08/31/08 01:04 PM
Why are you here?

To make friends here on mingle.:smile:

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Sun 08/31/08 01:48 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sun 08/31/08 01:51 PM

I too don't believe that we are here to learn.

What would we be learning?

The biggest lessons I've learn from life is that its impossible to come to a consensus with humans. laugh

I've also learned the true nature of the world is indeed dog-eat-dog. What more is there to learn?

I think I've learned how to be a good parent. But that seems to be truly useless information since I have no children.

I think I've also learned how to be a good partner, but again it seems like futile information that can't be applied without a partner to share it with.

Most of the talents and skills that I've learned in life are pretty much going to waste simply because I'm not in a position to make good use of them.

Also, if life is some sort of school it's truly an inefficient one. There are very few good mentors. Authoritarians usually make absolutely terrible mentors. If life were some kind of school there should be more good teachers around.

I think it would be pretty hard to pass a final exam when we aren't even aware of what the subject is.



You are not here to learn knowledge. You are here to get experience. When you get experience, this is when you really learn.

So what are we here to learn? We are here to learn what we want.

What do you want?

What do you desire?

What is your joy?

You first learn this by becoming aware of what you do not want.

preferences. You must have preferences in order to know what you want and you must know what you want if you want to know what you will create.

So your are here to learn what you want to create.

The greatest joy of all is in creating. You are here to find and experience joy.

You must ask yourself this question. What do I want?

Every moment of every day it is all about what you want. What you want to experience, what you want to feel, what you want to do, what do you want to create?

This is where all of creation begins. You have to discover what you want.

No kidding.

If you do not discover this, you have not discovered your purpose.

I am not talking about what you want for the world, or what you want to accomplish in your life. I am talking about what do you want right now at this moment?

This moment is eternity. It lasts for ever. But all that matters is what you want now.

Now is all that exists. Everything that exists, exists NOW.

JB




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Mon 09/01/08 11:23 AM
Edited by davidben1 on Mon 09/01/08 12:19 PM

Why am I here?


I guess I was up for the challenge..... someone asked and I volunteered for this mission...

I find the learning, (getting of wisdom) and love.. (the universal spirit kind)...a bit of a giggle... I have spent the past 25 odd years unlearning all the crapola we are force fed in life....

I dunno if I agree with the learning bit... I suspect it is more remembering.


absolutely indeed! for it is buried inside of each, but the conscious mind has no way of knowing how to access, since the conscious minds solution is OPPOSITE of the whole love or whole truth inside that complete all half truths of the mind....

this OPPOSITE conscious way is perpetuated in all that is around, as the entire world system operates on these OPPOSITE principles.........

it is indeed as rememebering MORE than the conscioius mind knows, as whispered from the heart that knows what an honest heart is......

how can divisiveness outside oneself in all touched be erased if one is divided as an enemy against oneself, by seeing some thigns as good and some bad........

any directive of the mind to attain some feeling, recognize some certain thing as truth or untruth, to define love or not love, to "look" for anything, leaves a directive in the forefront of the conscious mind, that disallow embracing all, which this keep then all from being seen, and if all is seen, there is NEVER a tear, nor even a tinge of sadness........

if one tree look to a tree next to it and think and see different, then the mind naturally will tell about all of these differences, and it is percieved as negatives, but indeed this perception is what has to "pass away", as "negative" is a perception of the mind, a filter looked thru.....

so then how can some things be good, or some thigns bad, if this fliter is to be removed, and can be after some time of "pain" in removing it.....

would it not have to be removed first for oneself, in it's view of itself?

would not then this mean one would no longer be scared to hear all thing things said by the mind itself that sound as saying oneself is not good?

to deny these things make one divided, and enemy to oneself, as ones core is all good, so to hear what is as "bad" about oneself is PAINFUL, lol........naturally the mind can look and find any evidence to convince itself it is not what oneself OR OTHERS say it is, lol......

would not the fear of hearing others say things against oneself also have to passed thru?

a acceptance of all things bad about oneself, and of course, what family and friends will be willing to tell what they really see, if one has made sure to provide all evidence in "reaction" that these are things NOT WISHED TO BE HEARD, lol......

wonder why it was said that pride destroy the prideful...

of ocurse it hurts, but no more than going to the dentist, but not going soon result in no happiness......

and going without any determination that one will embrace all bad about oneself is as fighting ones own cure.......

when this is done by sheer will of seeing more is needed, then this "bad" sight and hearing filter is removed in short order, and if one hears nothing as "bad" how can there be any lack of happiness and bliss?

there can't be........

if not removed, will not this allow this insideous divider of oneself to continue, and to be as perpetuated and grow each day, just as a plant grow each day, as any partial belief in the mind is stacked upon, as one stone on top the other, that is not ALL the truth, and soon this grow into a malignent tumor that take over the mind, cutting of the heart, the other half, that feel and see and know all total "essence of all feeling" of life, and even without any seeing or conscious knowing, this becomes as blocked by all the " half principles" that surround oneself by observation of sight and ear of hearing of the partial logic the world empire is based on........

all things are equal, there is no such thing as bad, is the only directive of the conscious mind, that will allow the release from this place, which allow all core true self to GET OUT, to be released to fly free, to solve all as it flys......

the narrower the perception, the less the view out....

since any beings is made in core self to be "all knowing", any "limit of sight" comes to be as a prison to the mind and heart.....

how can sight and hearing come to be as without ANY LIMIT......

ALL IS GOOD......ALL IS GOOD......ALL IS GOOD.....

indeed the mind says this will perpetuate "bad" by not recognizing it, lol.....

yea, this will not recognize "evil" or "bad" but only see as data, which will then be able to see with understanding even to help to erase all "evil" or JUST UNHAPPINESS........

the mind NEVER changes in the things it says to oneself, just changes in how it USES what is heard........

all data, for all solutions, to all things, are heard in the mind in each being, but these interpreted thru good and bad for a time keep from BEING USED or seen.....

the greatest thing seen as bad?

the opposite of what one wants, lol......

ALL IS PERFECT, EVEN IF ONE CHOPPED OF THEIR OWN FINGER TODAY, IS THE ONLY WAY TO LEAD ONESELF TO THE GREENEST PASTURES ON A HIGH MOUNTAIN TOP WHERE THERE IS NO PAIN, NOR MISERY, NOR DISCOMFORT, NOR EVIL SEEN, NOR BAD SEEN, NOR ANY LACK OF INTENSE LOVE............

the most diobolical thing......if one sees and HOLDS to the truth that chopping of their own finger was GOOD, one will NEVER chop off another finger again.........EVER

this cannot apply outward that all actions to others is as good, or there is no accountability, as even the heart whisper all one does that goes against the heart, heard as guilt, but the good seeker hate to hear this, since their own condemantion si the last they want to hear, as the directive of the mind is to be as "good", following "good" ideas and feelings and emotions only, creating an oppostion to hearing ones own wisdom, not knowing seeing and hearing lead to a perfect self, that lie in the center of each being, and perfect has all happiness, and ALL IT WANTS....

it was once said that what is up with man is down with god, and what is down with man is up with god......

what is god?

anything more or most than the wisdom in each heart, lol.....

it is certainally provable by all human actions that the mind peers with limited or OPPOSITE sight, as it only provide HALF THE DATA TO ANY EQUASION........which leave the mind as providing an opposite......

there was a human, sitting in a chair, and this human was a child, lacking wisdom yet, and on one side of the human sit the wisest one in the universe that knows all and everything about ALL observations of evil, and on the other side of the boy sit the wisest one in the universe knowing ALL things of good, and bliss and understanding and wisdom......

the child is as a captive tied to the chair, not being able to free itself from the shackles of the chair, until all evil and good is totally understood, creating wisdom, not to avoid evil, and to never observe it or have to see it again, but to have the understanding of how to uncreate it any time it is seen, each destined to become creators of all things MOST good.....

the all knowing evil wise man whisper a truth, and the boy see and hear as an observer in the middle if the chair, and see yes, it is true.....

unless there is telling from another beside the child, that the of what the process is, the child follow the louder voice, as the conscious mind is MOST ALIVE, SO WHAT APPEALS TO THE CONSCIOUS MIND WILL BE MOST HEARD FOR A TIME.........

soon though, the child is perplexed, as happiness seems cannot be found, and the lasting of it is shorter each day as mankind march toward a new beginning, and since each came before birth from a place of no "evil", of course this perplex, and after some expereince of time chained into the chair, becoming more perplexed as time goes on, in the hot seat, the human body, there comes a need to know more to solve the dilemas and unhappiness that is piling up, until finally there is not much breath of happiness leff, without WHOLE ANSWERS, lol.....

the other wisest one knowing all wisdom, and good, sit opposite the chair, and wait, with all patience, with no force, only interveening as NEEDED to keep on the path planned before entry into the body, and this all wise wisdom some have called as "god" or "gauradian angel", "heaven within", ying of the yang.......

after some time, the perplexsion and frustration seem to overwelm, and the human starts to ask of the wisest one with wisdom, what the whole meaning of these things are, as there seems to be something missing from the half-answers that obervatiopn and hearing thru good and bad give.......

what the wisest in the universe of good says seems at first seem an oppostie or to contradict what the wisest evil one in the universe say, and so these things at first are discarded, as having no true relevance, teaching one to be divided in oneself, hearing somethings as good, and some things as bad, lol..........

but the heart, the wisest in the universe knowing all wisdom and good, begins to answer back and fill in the rest of what the most evil in the universe know, seeing the other opposite half CAN be put TOGETHER, no longer seeing as opposites now, night and day becoming as one, no more NIGHT AND DAY, no more cold and hot, no more evil and good perception....

what around oneself IS NOT BUILT UPON GOOD AND BAD, so does not all external sight see thru this filter, and why only one in each "mini world" pass thru the funnel into the destiny of "all peace and equal" first, even with much opposition, but no longer seen as opposition that create hate from the thinking others are less equal or ignorant or not understanding, but seeing with all understanding the extreme difficulty and pain of passing thru this valley of the shadow of death, where after passing across the river and DIVIDE, there is NO EMOTIONAL OR MENTAL OR PHYSICAL PAIN THAT EXISTS......

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