To know......Is empowering


To take the film off my eyes.......Is awakening


To let your ears hear......Is refreshing


To feel it.......Is better then any drug


To live it........Is easy


To Love Him......Is a no brainer


To know He loves me........Is magic


To know He watches over me.......Is a comfort


To always have Faith in Him........Makes me complete

Abra,

It couldn't possibly be that your understanding of Jesus' words is skewed, could it? It must be that either SpiderCMB is a liar or the Bible is fake. Why should I answer your questions? Why should I try to show you what the word of God says? I see no incentive, because you will simply twist what I say into a straw man and then set that straw man on fire.

If you’re going to run Jesus like a marionette doll on your knee you need be prepared to show where he says what you claim.

That fact that you can't doesn't surprise me in the least.

I just came up with a wonderful thought!

Imagine a debate contest, with two marionette Jesus dolls.

One marionette doll is run by a team that is trying to argue for bigotry and hatred.

The other marionette doll is run by a team that is trying to argue for brotherly love.

Both teams are only allowed to use quotes from the Bible to put words in the mouths of their Jesus dolls.

Which Jesus would win the debate?

The one that preaches brotherly love?

Or the one that preachers bigotry and hate?

Who find more 'ammunition' for their marionette doll?

That would be an interesting debate. Someone ought to make that into a serious documentary.

They could find fundamentalists who love to preach fire, brimstone, and hate to run one of the dolls, and find some loving Christians who believe that Jesus stands for love to run the other doll.

The entire debate could actually be run by Christians. There are enough Christians who hate one another that there wouldn't be any problem finding people willing to square off this way.

I think that would be a great idea for a documentary.

Truly, I would love to hear what they come up with. It would be quite a site watching Jesus argue with himself using only words that are supposedly attributed to him.

Which team do you think would win the debate? The team with the loving Jesus, or the team with the hateful Jesus?

nice lips

Wood man - do you know how to answer anything without your book and concordences? can you not speak from your expierience with jesus, does every jot and title have to be defended wth bent of religious dogma and theology? if i was trying to win someone to christ i surely would not do it by posting verse after defensive verse - i was originally drawn to christ by the changed behavior of a freind, not by words from a book.

How can it "seem almost" like I was saying everyone is a sinner except Christians when I clearly said:

"Since basically Christianity teaches that everyone is a sinner that means that everyone will be destroyed."

I did not say everyone is a sinner except Christians did I?

So how did it "seem almost" like I was saying that? I don't understand why you do not read what I write. You should know by now that if I meant "everyone is a sinner except Christians" I would have said that.

If this is your truth, then you are placing all your faith on the New Testament, which clearly contains a story about Mithra, a savior God who died for the sins of mankind 500 years before Jesus was born, who was born of a virgin on December 25th ... on and on... the very same story told in the plagiarized new Testament, now said to be written by a Jew hating Roman aristocrat who slaughtered Jews left and right who was trying to destroy Judaism. (This according to the book "The true Authorship of the New Testament."

Now if this book is true it shoots a real big hole in Christianity. Nope... it dismantles Christianity completely actually.

You of course can say that this book is not true, but then you still have the fact that the story of Jesus is the same story of Mithra who was a myth told 500 years before Jesus was supposed to have been born.

So now there are two things you have to think about. But there are more.

Christianity's only historian who they seem to fall back on is Flavius Josephus who may well just be a pen name, hence a fictional character also, and not a real historian.

Even the New Testament states that the TRUTH WILL BE REVEALED. And that the truth will set you free. These are hints to the fact that the truth is revealed in the codes of the scripture that identify the true authors.

JB

You are confusing Christianity as it is in the Bible and Christianity as taught in Catholicism. There are no links between Mithranism and Christianity as it appears in the Bible. Mithra was born from a rock, not a virgin. Mirthra was a warrior, Jesus was a pacifist. Mithra killed a bull to create helpful things for humans, Jesus died on the cross to save us from our sins. There are no similarities.

No Similarities? WRONG WRONG WRONG. In MOST major respects the theology of the two cults (Mithra and Christianity) are all but identical.


Mithraism was one of the major religions of the Roman Empire which was derived from the ancient Persian god of light and wisdom. The cult of Mithraism was quite prominent in ancient Rome, especially among the military. Mithra was the god of war, battle, justice, faith, and contract. According to Mithraism, Mithra was called the son of God, was born of a virgin, had disciples, was crucified, rose from the dead on the third day, atoned for the sins of mankind, and returned to heaven.

"BORN FROM A ROCK" (Virgin dawn)

The theology of Mithraism was centred upon the dying/rising Mithra, emerging fully grown from the ‘virgin dawn’ or rock.

The association of gods with rocks or stones is not surprising: fiery rocks falling from the sky (meteorites) and even sparks released by colliding stones would equally strike the simple mind as ‘evidence’ of a godly presence. Holy stones were anointed with oil. Mithra was fathered by the creator god Ahura-Mazda.

Mithras’s supposed creation had occurred in a ‘time before men’, a cosmic creation in a celestial heaven. At no time was it believed that he had lived as a mere mortal and trod the earth. Mithraism's failure to have anthropomorphised its god into a man – something which was to be accomplished so successfully by Christianity – weakened the cult's appeal to the uneducated and opened the door to the competition.

In all other major respects the theology of the two cults (Mithra and Christianity) were all but identical.

Mithras had had twelve followers with whom he had shared a last sacramental meal. The evidence from a mithraeum at Dura Europus suggests members of the congregation and thiasos (sacred company) held a banquet in which eating, drinking and musical performances featured as well as religious ceremonial.

He had sacrificed himself to redeem mankind. Descending into the underworld, he had conquered death and had risen to life again on the third day.

The holy day for this sun god was, of course, Sunday (Christians continued to follow the Jewish Sabbath until the fourth century).

His many titles included ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ and ‘the Good Shepherd.’ For those who worshipped him, invoking the name of Mithras healed the sick and worked miracles.

Mithras could dispense mercy and grant immortality; to his devotees he offered hope. By drinking his blood and eating his flesh (by proxy, from a slain bull) they too could conquer death. On a Day of Judgement those already dead would be raised back to life.

You appear to be confused. I'm SpiderCMB, not "wood man" and I didn't post any scriptures in the post you responded to.

MUAHHHHHAAAA sweet tribo

I apologize spidey, my mistake, but you did use dogma and theology did you not?

No Similarities? WRONG WRONG WRONG. In MOST major respects the theology of the two cults (Mithra and Christianity) are all but identical.


Mithraism was one of the major religions of the Roman Empire which was derived from the ancient Persian god of light and wisdom. The cult of Mithraism was quite prominent in ancient Rome, especially among the military. Mithra was the god of war, battle, justice, faith, and contract. According to Mithraism, Mithra was called the son of God, was born of a virgin, had disciples, was crucified, rose from the dead on the third day, atoned for the sins of mankind, and returned to heaven.

"BORN FROM A ROCK" (Virgin dawn)

The theology of Mithraism was centred upon the dying/rising Mithra, emerging fully grown from the ‘virgin dawn’ or rock.

The association of gods with rocks or stones is not surprising: fiery rocks falling from the sky (meteorites) and even sparks released by colliding stones would equally strike the simple mind as ‘evidence’ of a godly presence. Holy stones were anointed with oil. Mithra was fathered by the creator god Ahura-Mazda.

Mithras’s supposed creation had occurred in a ‘time before men’, a cosmic creation in a celestial heaven. At no time was it believed that he had lived as a mere mortal and trod the earth. Mithraism's failure to have anthropomorphised its god into a man – something which was to be accomplished so successfully by Christianity – weakened the cult's appeal to the uneducated and opened the door to the competition.

In all other major respects the theology of the two cults (Mithra and Christianity) were all but identical.

Mithras had had twelve followers with whom he had shared a last sacramental meal. The evidence from a mithraeum at Dura Europus suggests members of the congregation and thiasos (sacred company) held a banquet in which eating, drinking and musical performances featured as well as religious ceremonial.

He had sacrificed himself to redeem mankind. Descending into the underworld, he had conquered death and had risen to life again on the third day.

The holy day for this sun god was, of course, Sunday (Christians continued to follow the Jewish Sabbath until the fourth century).

His many titles included ‘the Truth,’ ‘the Light,’ and ‘the Good Shepherd.’ For those who worshipped him, invoking the name of Mithras healed the sick and worked miracles.

Mithras could dispense mercy and grant immortality; to his devotees he offered hope. By drinking his blood and eating his flesh (by proxy, from a slain bull) they too could conquer death. On a Day of Judgement those already dead would be raised back to life.

"God established a prohibition against incest in Leviticus 18:6-18. Prior to that time, human genes were pure enough to allow close relatives to have children without passing deformities to the children."


Spider what is this now? Its sounds like a load of crap we might potentially need a dump truck to haul out of here. Care to elaborate?

You nailed me. I was asked a question about my religious beliefs and I answered to discussing them.

it's ok easy to do on a forum. all of us do it hahaha.