Think of it, if everyone wanted to be politicians, or leaders of men, who would follow them? If everyone wanted to have their own business, who would work for them? If everyone wanted the "perfect" job who would pick up the garbage or work at the sewage plant or dig holes to bury the dead?

Variety is necessary. Every individual has value.

JB

Wow, such a giving and empathetic person. I sure hope for your sake you are never at the mercy of having to ask for what you need to survive from charities and your family. I hope for your sake there is still a form of government help for you should you need it.

When the time comes to ask for help, all kinds of dynamics go on in your family and charities cannot give much. So you are at the mercy of your family and all of their issues. Some of your family may feel the way that you do and feel "it is not their problem that you are a quadraplegic". Some other members of your family may feel that you brought it on yourself and are therefore a lazy slob who is just milking everyone. Some of your family may think you only need 50.00 in food every month to live off of. Ect and so on.

This kind of philosophy is the reason people appear so hatefilled and unempathetic to their fellow man. You are able bodied and healthy. Should a tornado hit your house with you in it and you cannot use your body for work anymore I sure do hope that what you propose never happens to you.

The problem with the OP is that we have individuals in this country who feel that the poor are just lazy slobs who try to milk the system. They cannot see the others lives because they have never lived it.

In order for these individuals to feel "unresponsible" they have to make the disadvantaged "evil" in their minds so they can then make themselves "free" of any responsibility.

Until all of these hatefilled individuals actually walk in the shoes of the disadvantaged, either for health reason, national disaster or something that makes them see, they will not want to contribute. The government would then have to force it, which causes oppression.

I believe that healthcare for all should be mandatory also. If the government regulated it, the cost would go down and we would have care for all. The problems with this is, just like in Europe and other places where healthcare is a right, taxes are high and people do wait for doctor appts.

another twisted assumption of what someone else thinks.

Here is what they a really saying...

Give the person the natural course of evolving & they will come into their own...Naturally. For example...all govt. interferance did was make an entire population of people dependant...more than not, or we would not still be rehashing the spoils of slavery.

THAT...is the real deception ....people who think govt. can solve anything.

Wouldee touched on the problems slightly. Capitalism is designed that there will always be the filthy rich, the semi rich, the rich, the middle class upper and lower and the disadvantaged or poor. The system is designed that way.

You can up healthcare and education but you will still have to have toilet cleaners, ditch diggers, etc... and a country will always have the mentally ill, the physically handicapped, the elderly, the unwanted children, etc....

So basically you will have educated ditch diggers, now one of these educated ditch diggers may, because of his education, develop a new and better ditch digging tool and become wealthy from it but not all will.

The economic classes will always exist, this will never go away. That is the capitalistic world.

I don't remember who said it but it applies to us:

A COUNTRIES RICHNESS IS MEASURED BY THE CARE GIVEN IT'S POOR AND DISADVANTAGED.

No offense here but GARBAGE. Unrealistic and unresponsible thought processes basically used to push off any self responsibility out the window.

Try again or better next time. I don't fall for this.

It doesn't matter what you think...the consequences are real. REALITY check. Your "assumption" is the only thing that throws self responsiblity out the window.

LOL, I NEED A REALITY CHECK???!!!!!!

Yep! Isn't living in freedom great....

Even wacky leftie lib inmates have a say. It's called rights without responsiblity.

I can't be offended as I am none of what you listed.

But I would rather be a responsible, understanding, empathetic, mature, intelligent, etc... person like I am than the impression of what you are portraying.

Keep dreamin' LOL Your ideas are so void of reality that the best you can do is mimic the originality of others who actually know from experience & have real solutions. Seriously speaking... hehehe We already know what your solutions produced...nothing.

Let's try rights WITH responsibility. Maybe then people will have a REAL chance at happiness.

Idealistically speaking of course. Since govt. got too big for its britches we have no choice but to spiral down into govt. tyranny. But you keep wishin' hon'.

BTW...this has ALWAYS been the result of how poorly man does when he tries to be God. the result has ALWAYS been govt. tyranny. There is nothing new about that. Thanks for the reminder.

I'm in completely agreement with you. I never meant to imply that all religious people are looking to shirk responsibility.

Just for the record I did say, "I feel that a lot of people are attracted to religion for this very reason."

I never meant to imply that all religious people are attracted for that reason.



I think some colleges are better than others, but I also feel that they demand too many mandatory subjects that simply shouldn't be mandatory. I think a human being should be able to take whatever they want, and just be given credit for what they've taken. Then let the employers decide who they want to hire based on what they've taken.

For example, suppose someone is already good at writing and communicating, why for them to take English classes if they don't want to? You're just wasting their valuable time. Time that could be spent focusing on what they are truly trying to learn. I'm definitely not happy with the way colleges are run. I wasn't happy as a student, and I also felt restricted as a teacher. I felt that they system is actually holding people back and wasting their time and effort in many cases by forcing curriculums that just aren't necessary.

Finally, I think that the grade schools (and high schools) are such a sham that many truly creative people are put off to the whole educational process long before they even make it to college. Let's face it, people who don't do well in high school, or who drop out altogether, aren't likely to end up in college anyway.

So if the grade schools fail, the colleges aren't even going to serve as a safety net.



I tend to agree with this. It's a dream of perfectionism, but who's perfectionism? I think the world does fail the most creative people. Without a doubt this is true. It's sad. But it's not likely to change because the most creative people truly do not represent the bulk of the masses. Hells bells, if that were the case then things would indeed already be different.

I think ultimately it's up to parents to help their children find what's best for them. Unfortunately, as I've said, the bulk of the masses aren't so hot. And they don't make good parents. They may be the most loving well-meaning parents in the world, but if they have no clue who to seriously help their children, then all the love and good intentions goes down the drain in terms of being useful in a pragmatic sense.
In truth Redy, I've absolutely given up on trying to imagine a perfect world.

About all a person can do is strive to be a perfect parent and raise their children the best they can. I've always wanted to do that, but alas I never married. What a waste of a great father.

A waste of a good husband too.

Life is such a waste. So much talent and skills being wasted it's just so sad.

Archie Bunker's met his match!

Nothing is wasted, Abra... Nothing.

As for striving to be a perfect parent...
I must be in serious doo doo.

I'm as imperfect a parent as can be.

As humans, we can never reach absolute perfection. When we strive for perfection and naturally fall short, we believe we are horrifically flawed. This makes for more and more misery.

Nothing is wasted.

You have my pity and concern.

Yes...libs are the Archie Bunkers of the current times...

Pity? concern?

I don't believe that either... it's not in a lib's heart...pity or concern.