Marx was a philosopher, Stalin was a dictator...see...? I know the difference between political ideology and facisim..do you?

Wrong. Fascism is, essentially, a political ideology, and Stalin was not a fascist. The complete absence of private property in Stalin's Soviet Russia proves this. Fascism is the fabled "public-private partnership" where the individual owns property, but puts it to use for the state (or governing entity--this could theoretically be a corporation, hence Mussolini's term of "corporatism"). It doesn't matter though, as both ideologies are failed applications of socialism.

I thought you were one of the anti-interventionists on this board? You don't like intervention in Iraq, Afghanistan, or anywhere else, so why the different feelings when it comes to Tibet and Taiwan? Neither of those countries ("regions" if you're Chinese) are worth a collapsed American economy, just as Iraq isn't.

Wrong. Fascism is, essentially, a political ideology, and Stalin was not a fascist. The complete absence of private property in Stalin's Soviet Russia proves this. Fascism is the fabled "public-private partnership" where the individual owns property, but puts it to use for the state (or governing entity--this could theoretically be a corporation, hence Mussolini's term of "corporatism"). It doesn't matter though, as both ideologies are failed applications of socialism.


Okay..its a lot to read..but you seem to not have your facts right...and you seem like someone who values education...

A key element of fascism is its endorsement of the leadership over a country of a dictator, who is often known simply as the "Leader". Fascist leaders that rule countries are not always heads of state, but heads of government, such as Benito Mussolini who held power under the largely figurehead King of Italy, Victor Emmanuel III.

In the case of Italy, Fascism arose in the 1920s as a mixture of syndicalist notions with an anti-materialist theory of the state; the latter had already been linked to an extreme nationalism. Fascism universally dismissed the Marxist concept of "class struggle", replacing it instead with the concept of "class collaboration". Fascists embraced nationalism and mysticism, advancing ideals of strength and power.

Fascism is typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic, by way of a strong, single-party government for enacting laws and a strong, sometimes brutal militia or police force for enforcing them. Fascism exalts the nation, state, or group of people as superior to the individuals composing it, and uses explicit populist rhetoric. It calls for a heroic mass effort to restore past greatness, and demands loyalty to a single leader, leading to a cult of personality and unquestioned obedience to orders.

Fascists typically advocate a strong military that is capable of both defensive and offensive actions.

Uh, thanks for reiterating my definition of fascism. I addressed only the economic end of fascism as you were confusing it with communism, which has strictly an economic focus. The definition above only refers to Nazism which is an application of fascism, much as Stalinism or Maoism is an application of communism. However, this does not mean it ceases to be what it is--the defining aspects of both ideologies are socialism and the fact that you're somehow arguing that Stalin was NOT a communist is pure bunk. Lenin was also a dictator, are you going to argue that Leninism wasn't communism either?

I never said Stalin wasnt a communist or that he wasnt a dictator...Lenin wasnt a dictator.. dont know where you got your facts from..maybe all those American "history" books..believe what you want...I dont care about you or your country...I care about mine and the infection globalization spearheaded by corporate American greed has inflicted on it..
I care about the future of my grandchildren stuck there, in what was a once GREAT NATION but is now one step above a giant shopping center full of cheap imported crap in debt so deep it will take generations to pay back (if thats even possible)..love your country??? then for gods sake, start doing something to save it...what are Americans waiting for???

Only a communist would argue that Lenin wasn't a dictator. And while I too do not want to live in a globalized world spearheaded by multinationals, I also don't want to live in a socialist nanny-state that steals money from me either.

It wasn't interventionism. In fact, I have no problem with the action we took in Afghanistan until it became inaction so we could divert attention and resources to Iraq, but that's another matter. I take issue with your proposing we blow off our debts and the part about "honestly, who cares about those people?"

only a neocon with his head stuck in the sand would argue that socialism steals money. Im betting you are not a big fan of FDR (America´s greatest president IMO)

Im a big fan of FDR