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Edited by
splendidlife
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I had no trouble understanding what Davidben was saying, at least not this time. I admit there are times I need to concentrate, but he has some very lovely things to say and some very enlightening ideas as well. And yes, just as Spider has done, sometimes we have to ask a question. Of course I've done that here too, and I get told I'm using warring tactics. I don't even need any to interpret David for me. I just take the time the read or ask him a question. the greatest employ of the heart What is "the greatest employ of the heart"? I took the time to read the first sentence and it makes no sense to me. I asked him to explain it to me. If you understand it, then would you explain what that means? I thought I did. Perhaps, Spider, you missed my reply Uh... Here's what I get from that sentence... Through the use of the heart or eyes of love, I see beyond your facade of self-righteousness. If I'm completely off, my apologies. |
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You're better off going outside and conversing with a tree. yes I am... |
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David...I say this nicely... you are so out of touch that I really don't even read what you have to say or care about what you think. So if someones words are hard to follow and there is not holy spirit to guide you, it's just too darn hard to make the effort to communicate with a fellow human being. Is that what you are saying? Remember, I'm just trying to figure out what you mean. You have the right to correct me. No...what I'm saying is I don't like double talkers. It's very plain & simple Redy. |
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Sun 08/17/08 04:35 PM
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David...I say this nicely... you are so out of touch that I really don't even read what you have to say or care about what you think. So if someones words are hard to follow and there is not holy spirit to guide you, it's just too darn hard to make the effort to communicate with a fellow human being. Is that what you are saying? Remember, I'm just trying to figure out what you mean. You have the right to correct me. No...what I'm saying is I don't like double talkers. It's very plain & simple Redy. You say this NICELY? |
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That would make for a weeping willow...
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I will say one thing that I'm sure Christians would be proud to hear. Anyone reading just this thread alone would be able to understand WHY it was necessary to discontinue an old belief. The one that encompassed thought, word and deed in order to get to heaven.
Without that one being declared obsolete, no one would even begin to imagine that they could get to heaven. I think that might have created quite a disruption in numbers of followers, don't you? Actually, now that I consider it, believing that thought, word and deed were the only way to heaven, NOW THAT REALLY DEPENDED ON THE GRACE OF GOD. Whew! Sorry, didn't mean to go off topic, just a thought. |
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I will say one thing that I'm sure Christians would be proud to hear. Anyone reading just this thread alone would be able to understand WHY it was necessary to discontinue an old belief. The one that encompassed thought, word and deed in order to get to heaven. Without that one being declared obsolete, no one would even begin to imagine that they could get to heaven. I think that might have created quite a disruption in numbers of followers, don't you? Actually, now that I consider it, believing that thought, word and deed were the only way to heaven, NOW THAT REALLY DEPENDED ON THE GRACE OF GOD. Whew! Sorry, didn't mean to go off topic, just a thought. By all means... Your thoughts are welcomed here. |
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Thank-you SL.
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Edited by
davidben1
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Sun 08/17/08 05:03 PM
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spider......
each words writtn in any post of mine comes from a perspective of the end road of what all things create in time, and what other guide be there for knowing what things to speak that will create peace and unity, not for one, or myself, but for all...... this is my passion........what be yours? is it thought that all good words alone create good, as this perception of sight has been employed for centuries, and the reason words spoken the same as in days past are so easily recognizable, but these having been spoken and insisted upon since the beginning of time, have had no effect to purpose an enviornment of peace and unity and no fear and total goodwill for all........ indeed, they have been shown by all history to purpose just the opposite, as the love and adoration of ones own truth as the only truth always do........ have you heard me insist on any courtesy here? this is of no concern to me at all......... have you heard anything of mine spoken to be professed as the only truth, as indeed the principles of all that is written here are ones able to accept all truths, seeing complete validity in all words spoken, and do not need devisivness roots to stand upon....... speak your words freely my friend, and allow all others to, and the simple cause and effect of greater wisdom can grow amoungst all........ feel free to send any email to discuss the principles and ideas spoken of here, and good words are not cared for, but the bad words are most welcomed, as these belie the greatest wisdom and brotherhood to later come forth.......... if each is not free to speak the truth each one see, bringing each in time to become as friends, realizing what motives and agenda are really at work, and none can enter a conversation without past pain and emotion, but this can never rule or be the sole guide for what is most profitable, and the gravest concern for this natural predisposition of human nature is put into each word written here, and it is not my pleasure to say what could be percieved to defame, but if the only guide to each that speak, be personal emotions, then a world of children trapped in adult bodies is created, and any truth that exist is overted....... |
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I thought I did. Perhaps, Spider, you missed my reply I saw that, it doesn't answer my question. Let's forget it. David has written me a message and the only thing I understand is that it is addressed to me. Maybe I'm just not ready to understand his posts or maybe the only make as much sense as one is willing to read into them. Either way, I won't try to glean anything from his posts anymore. |
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"What we've got here is failure to communicate."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fuDDqU6n4o |
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I thought I did. Perhaps, Spider, you missed my reply I saw that, it doesn't answer my question. Let's forget it. David has written me a message and the only thing I understand is that it is addressed to me. Maybe I'm just not ready to understand his posts or maybe the only make as much sense as one is willing to read into them. Either way, I won't try to glean anything from his posts anymore. I'm sorry to hear that. |
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Edited by
voileazur
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Sun 08/17/08 07:05 PM
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Davidben posts the wisest words on all the forums. It's a shame they go right over the heads of the people who need to hear them most. They have eyes but cannot see, ears but cannot hear. Sounds all too familiar.  Absolutely! Reason is a very useful mental resource to be sure, but it is of little help in matters of the heart and matters of the soul. Reasoning with poetry, or limiting oneself to strickly understanding philosophy, is missing out on the essence. David is clear IMO, that enough of us speak exclusively from reason, leaving essence and spirit out completely. Again IMO, he has made a determined choice to invest himself in speaking from heart and soul. Not pretentious in the least. Not trying to sound precious. He just speaks what is there for him to say, void of the usual 'sounding good and right' filters. Anyone can just let the spirit be. When we do, everything David writes comes across loud and clear. Trying to undersatnd every word, or picking at the admittedly unique writing style, is the booby prize. One misses out on the golden nuggets of his posts! |
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I will say one thing that I'm sure Christians would be proud to hear. Anyone reading just this thread alone would be able to understand WHY it was necessary to discontinue an old belief. The one that encompassed thought, word and deed in order to get to heaven. Without that one being declared obsolete, no one would even begin to imagine that they could get to heaven. I think that might have created quite a disruption in numbers of followers, don't you? Actually, now that I consider it, believing that thought, word and deed were the only way to heaven, NOW THAT REALLY DEPENDED ON THE GRACE OF GOD. Whew! Sorry, didn't mean to go off topic, just a thought. That's your personal opinion. You're entilted of course but others like more accountability than your say so.  I'd say that faith is not a warring tactic...except to the UNfaithful. Thanks for making my point there redy. 
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Sounds like Yoda. damn, i wish i had heard the guy speak sometime, lol.... i have to find out why the hell everybody says that, lol...... |
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Sounds like Yoda. damn, i wish i had heard the guy speak sometime, lol.... I have to find out why the hell everybody says that, lol...... He speaks very wisely in an unconventional way... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjnbIF1yAA&feature=related |
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Sounds like Yoda. damn, i wish i had heard the guy speak sometime, lol.... I have to find out why the hell everybody says that, lol...... He speaks very wisely in an unconventional way... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjnbIF1yAA&feature=related thanks man.....that was really cool of ya.....i'll check it out sometime....... people don't understand that this is a curse, and think i like it, lol....... |
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Sounds like Yoda. damn, i wish i had heard the guy speak sometime, lol.... i have to find out why the hell everybody says that, lol...... yoda is the little guy with pointy ears in the "Star Wars" movies. he teaches Luke Skywalker to use "the force" |
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