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I'm a Conservative.
That doesn't make me a warmonger. That doesn't make me a homophobe. That doesn't make me a self hating homosexual. It doesn't make me a bigot. It doesn't make me a fascist. It doesn't make me unsimpathetic to those less fortunate than myself. It just makes me a Conservative. Just because I don't agree the homosexual lifestyle, Doesn't mean I don't think they have a right to exist. As far as same sex marriage, Why would you want it? It's just more fodder for the lawyers! I've known and been friendly with many gay people in my life and I've never judged them on their lifestyle. And they never judged me for my opinion nor did they feel obligated to shove their beliefs down my throat (I know there's a joke there, But not today, O.K.?). That's what enabled us to be friends. Just because I don't believe that I owe anyone an apology for slavery, Doesn't make me a bigot. I've never owned a slave, Never wanted one. How many generations will waste away waiting for perfection in society? It'll never happen. That does not make me a bigot. It makes me a realist. The fact that I believe in a strong National Security and Border enforcement does not make me a warmonger or fascist. I believe that without National Security, None of the other arguements matter. Because if this great country fails, We probably wouldn't have any say with the next ruling party. I'm also tired of hearing about how insensitive we are toward imigrants. If you come here legally and work toward your own American Dream, God Bless You!! Why should I ascimilate to a culture that just wants to expand and erase mine. I welcome anyone and their beliefs as long as they respect mine. Does that make me a bad guy? As far as those less fortunate... If I can help, I do. But honestly, I'm not exactly swimmin' in money. I could use some help sometimes too, But I have a halfway decent job, So I'm not entitled to the programs I fund with my own tax dollars. I have to work longer hours ( that are taxed to all hell) when I need help. So if I have a problem with a system that gives handouts off of my sweat, Does that make me evil? That's the whole Conservative ideal, Don't expect anything from anyone. Work for a fair living and recieve a fair shake. The Government should be there to protect us, Not dictate what I should believe or who I should feed. I think I can be the judge of who needs my charity most. Does all this make me a bad guy? your call |
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Exactly!
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Thanks.
right back at ya. |
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Edited by
tanyaann
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Wed 08/13/08 10:37 AM
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Are you here to find your love or whine about politics?
Everyone is different in their political views. I am a moderate republican, an advocate for gay and equal rights, would like more monetary/economic accountablity and universal health care. Do I sound like a republican to you? If you are actually on here to meet someone, please stop ranting about politics. |
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This is the "politics thread" That's why I thought it was here.
Go up a few clicks if it bothers you. |
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Maybe if I was calling George Bush a nazi, It would be o.k..
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I don't know who would make such implications, but that certainly reflects only their prejudice and lack of knowledge. Shame is on them.
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Wed 08/13/08 10:58 AM
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Maybe if I was calling George Bush a nazi, It would be o.k.. Maybe BG, if more Republicans would admit to him being what he is(a liar and a criminal,) instead of supporting him at all costs, maybe, then we wouldnt talk about the Republican Party, but rather as Americans we would all talk about Bush! Just a thought! |
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I don't know who would make such implications, but that certainly reflects only their prejudice and lack of knowledge. Shame is on them. I hear those implications on a daily basis. That's why I brought up thje subject. My point was that we can discuss and debate these subjects without lumping each other into catagories or vicious ignorant name calling. We all have the right to our own opinion. And by right, You should be able to express it without being biased. |
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Edited by
BigGlenn
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Wed 08/13/08 11:03 AM
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Maybe if I was calling George Bush a nazi, It would be o.k.. Maybe BG, if more Republicans would admit to him being what he is, instead of supporting him at all costs, maybe, then we wouldnt talk about the Republican Party, but rather as Americans we would all talk about Bush! Just a thought! That's the problem man, What constitutes "All costs?" I support my President. I happen to agree with his policy in Iraq. Does that mean all costs? I don't think most Americans hate the man. It just bothers me that people have to disagree with so much hate. I still go to work every day to pay my bills. My life isn't so dramatically different because of the man. I'll tell you one thing. I feel safer with him in there. A Criminal? please. Name a clean politician and I've got a bridge you could buy. |
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Well we disagree on Bush being a criminal.
But, your point has been made, and as a sign of respect to you BG, I will try to refrain from lumping all republicans together. I just hope you can see my point and realize how it happens! Have a good day brother! |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Wed 08/13/08 11:17 AM
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I'm a Conservative. That doesn't make me a warmonger. That doesn't make me a homophobe. That doesn't make me a self hating homosexual. It doesn't make me a bigot. It doesn't make me a fascist. It doesn't make me unsimpathetic to those less fortunate than myself. It just makes me a Conservative. Just because I don't agree the homosexual lifestyle, Doesn't mean I don't think they have a right to exist. As far as same sex marriage, Why would you want it? It's just more fodder for the lawyers! I've known and been friendly with many gay people in my life and I've never judged them on their lifestyle. And they never judged me for my opinion nor did they feel obligated to shove their beliefs down my throat (I know there's a joke there, But not today, O.K.?). That's what enabled us to be friends. Just because I don't believe that I owe anyone an apology for slavery, Doesn't make me a bigot. I've never owned a slave, Never wanted one. How many generations will waste away waiting for perfection in society? It'll never happen. That does not make me a bigot. It makes me a realist. The fact that I believe in a strong National Security and Border enforcement does not make me a warmonger or fascist. I believe that without National Security, None of the other arguements matter. Because if this great country fails, We probably wouldn't have any say with the next ruling party. I'm also tired of hearing about how insensitive we are toward imigrants. If you come here legally and work toward your own American Dream, God Bless You!! Why should I ascimilate to a culture that just wants to expand and erase mine. I welcome anyone and their beliefs as long as they respect mine. Does that make me a bad guy? As far as those less fortunate... If I can help, I do. But honestly, I'm not exactly swimmin' in money. I could use some help sometimes too, But I have a halfway decent job, So I'm not entitled to the programs I fund with my own tax dollars. I have to work longer hours ( that are taxed to all hell) when I need help. So if I have a problem with a system that gives handouts off of my sweat, Does that make me evil? That's the whole Conservative ideal, Don't expect anything from anyone. Work for a fair living and recieve a fair shake. The Government should be there to protect us, Not dictate what I should believe or who I should feed. I think I can be the judge of who needs my charity most. Does all this make me a bad guy? your call Well considering it should be none of your business if same sex couples want to marry, yes that makes you prejudice and judgemental. Nobody is expecting an apology for slavery, just the realization that an oppressed people have lots and lots of issues thanks to the years of oppression that have yet to be resolved. They want the same rights as all other Americans and do not want to be discriminated against anymore, none of which is happening. From your post you cannot see this side, which makes you prejudice. As for illegal immigration, if we did not hire them here, there would not be an issue. It was a new slave labor force utilized by big business and we allowed it. As long as you have this understanding then you are good to go. As for the handout programs, they are necessary. Just because you have not experienced the type of situation that makes it a need does not mean others do not. These programs are designed to help and they do. The majority of welfare recipients are not free loaders, they need the hand up. Homelessness and poverty will exist in this capitalistic environnment always. There is no way around it. Not all can be wealthy, not all can be well to do and not all can be middle class. There will always be those who are less advantaged. As for the warmongering, if you believe this illegal war in Iraq was JUSTIFIED at ANY LEVEL, then you are also not only blind but warmongering. Considering that you cannot see your own prejudice, the answer to your quesstion does not make you a bad guy, just ignorant. My best advice to you is "Do not judge ANYONE unless you can walk a mile in their shoes." |
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I've got nothing but love for you man.
Just don't put too much faith in those Democrats. Not one of them got to Capitol Hill by being clean. |
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Maybe if I was calling George Bush a nazi, It would be o.k.. |
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 08/13/08 05:09 PM
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What the heck does slavery got ot do with anything and who is trying to make anyone apoligize for it???? Could you elaborate on what you mean by your references to slavery and apologies?
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Maybe if I was calling George Bush a nazi, It would be o.k.. it would be OK because is not far from truth. |
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Edited by
tngxl65
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Wed 08/13/08 09:00 PM
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I've got nothing but love for you man. Just don't put too much faith in those Democrats. Not one of them got to Capitol Hill by being clean. See Glenn, was with you until then. How can you make the statement that you make complaining about how conservatives are generalized and then make a generalization about all democrats on the Hill being unclean? And the truth is the majority of both parties is silent. And sometimes I wonder if they don't have it right. Better to have people think I'm a fool than to open my mouth and prove it. |
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I have seen more hate in liberals than my fellow Republicans, we just get branded as Hateful.
Liberals just get angry at everything, It is all Americas fault, every issue in the world, it is all our fault and GWB fault, that is what you all want us all to believe because you want the US loving Americans to be ashamed of their country. It is not going to happen.... I for one am proud of my country, and I will stand by it no matter what and who is president. |
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I have seen more hate in liberals than my fellow Republicans, we just get branded as Hateful. Liberals just get angry at everything, It is all Americas fault, every issue in the world, it is all our fault and GWB fault, that is what you all want us all to believe because you want the US loving Americans to be ashamed of their country. It is not going to happen.... I for one am proud of my country, and I will stand by it no matter what and who is president. You have it wrong, there is nothing wrong with being proud but one must own up to ones mistakes, of which we have many many to own up to thanks to this administration. Hate comes in many forms. The "accepted" prejudice of those Americans who call themselves conservatives is the most dangerous because they hide it behind "legitimate" sounding causes. Their favorites right now are the illegals and anyone who challenges this administration on the illegal war they started. These are still forms of hatred no matter how well hidden they are. I agree that there are hateful liberals also so I am not being biased. |
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I have seen more hate in liberals than my fellow Republicans, we just get branded as Hateful. Liberals just get angry at everything, It is all Americas fault, every issue in the world, it is all our fault and GWB fault, that is what you all want us all to believe because you want the US loving Americans to be ashamed of their country. It is not going to happen.... I for one am proud of my country, and I will stand by it no matter what and who is president. You have it wrong, there is nothing wrong with being proud but one must own up to ones mistakes, of which we have many many to own up to thanks to this administration. Hate comes in many forms. The "accepted" prejudice of those Americans who call themselves conservatives is the most dangerous because they hide it behind "legitimate" sounding causes. Their favorites right now are the illegals and anyone who challenges this administration on the illegal war they started. These are still forms of hatred no matter how well hidden they are. I agree that there are hateful liberals also so I am not being biased. As I recall, it was the Democraps that were all against Civil Rights in the 60's... Well, everyone is entitled to their Opinions in morals in this world and if it doesn't fit in to the liberal ideology, then you all cry fowl and racism. I think Liberals are very judgmental, especially towards republicans, liberals have no problem labeling us as "Dumb Rednecks" right off that bat. |
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