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MorningSong
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Everything is REPRODUCING AFTER ITS OWN KIND.
GOD WAS REFERRING TO EARTH AND ITS INHABTANTS!!! But in Truth....whose to say God wasn't Speaking of ALLLLLL the Universe....when He said, Everything reproduces after its own kind!!! More stars you say? Well......think about it...They are STILL stars in ORIGIN. More galaxies you say? They are STILL galaxies in ORIGIN. But in Genesis, God was not referring to the other worlds and galaxies out there anyway.... God was referring to EARTH, when God said, in 6 days He finished his work, and rested on the seventh. But AGAIN...... whose to say God's WORD doesn't apply to the WHOLE UNIVERSE?? Afterall, God DOES NOT CHANGE!!!! NEITHER DOES HIS WORD!!! so that means...... GOD AND WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS WORD , APPLIES NOT ONLY TO EARTH AND ITS INHABITANTS....... BUT GOD AND WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS WORD ..... ALSO APPLIES TO THE WHOLE UNIVERSE HE CREATED!!!!! NOT JUST EARTH AND ITS INHABITANTS ONLY!!! GOS CREATED IT ALL!!!! AND GOD IS THE SAME...YESTERDAY, TODAY,AND FOREVER. GOD IS GOD OVER ALL....INCLUDING THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!! 
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here again, is another abra shortcut to coddle his little woes and find companions in his misery. good luck with that one your pontificance. you just don't get it. I don't get it? This comes from a man who confesses to rejecting "Churchianity". Designer Christian all the way, eh Wouldee? Yup. I get it alright.  Please forgive me if I fail to bow down and worship you. I'm busy at the moment with something much more important. 
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Oh... let the Flat-Earthers enjoy having the entire universe revolve around then Abra; it makes 'em happy. Meanwhile I have faith that the physical laws of the universe will continue to perpetuate an amazing collection of galaxies, planets, and other life long after we're all gone, just like it has for eons prior.
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Everything is REPRODUCING AFTER ITS OWN KIND. GOD WAS REFERRING TO EARTH AND ITS INHABTANTS!!! But in Truth....whose to say God wasn't Speaking of ALLLLLL the Universe....when He said, Everything reproduces after its own kind!!! More stars you say? Well......think about it...They are STILL stars in ORIGIN. More galaxies you say? They are STILL galaxies in ORIGIN. But in Genesis, God was not referring to the other worlds and galaxies out there anyway.... God was referring to EARTH, when God said, in 6 days He finished his work, and rested on the seventh. But AGAIN...... whose to say God's WORD doesn't apply to the WHOLE UNIVERSE?? Afterall, God DOES NOT CHANGE!!!! NEITHER DOES HIS WORD!!! so that means...... GOD AND WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS WORD , APPLIES NOT ONLY TO EARTH AND ITS INHABITANTS....... BUT GOD AND WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS WORD ..... ALSO APPLIES TO THE WHOLE UNIVERSE HE CREATED!!!!! NOT JUST EARTH AND ITS INHABITANTS ONLY!!! GOS CREATED IT ALL!!!! AND GOD IS THE SAME...YESTERDAY, TODAY,AND FOREVER. GOD IS GOD OVER ALL....INCLUDING THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!! then how can one believe that ALL ARE NOT CHILDREN OF GOD, and believe that many others are as ignorant? does not a perception as some evil show no belief in all the words, but just the ones that make one good and others evil? if god is over all, and "god" is so powerful and omnipotent, having all power to create galaxies as believed, can one NOT pay heed if "god" speaks to the thoughts of mankind, lol... just dosen't hold true to any that believe in text, as these would have to first believe that all are children of god, as the very text described........ |
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Chazster, you have a fresh perspective, coming from a place that has not dealt with fundmentalist Christians and their delusions and paranoia. Maybe you can bring some new information. Somthing we have failed to mention. It doesn't really matter much, except that at this point, getting all it committed to the thread will make it easier to look up the next time a fundie tries to say they won the last battle.  The music goes round and round who o o o o o and it comes out ...... blow it out Wouldee.  Redy, Did you say 'wouldee'?!?!?! Was he here?!?!? Has he posted on this thread yet?!?!?! I know there is this weirdo that has been parading with his pseudo, but I haven't read 'wouldee' in a long time?!?? Kind of miss him. I think Wouldee is Brilliant !! I Applaud His Writing !!! Truly A Work of Art.   (((( Wouldee and Britty ))))) I guess everyone is entitled to their opinions.  But a work of art? That's blasphemous! La La ranting, insulting and dancing emoticons is not art. JB |
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good morning, JB.
nice to see you in true form and on your game so early. a good sleep does wonders, doesn't it? |
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Do you even research your articles? Potassium to argons half life is 1.26x109 years. You would not use that to date something 11 years old. That is a biased article. You would need something with a very small half life to date something that new. Obviously you missed these two. Carbon dates they did not like Carbon dating is frequently an embarrassment to Scientists. Here are some Carbon 14 dates that were rejected because they did not agree with evolution Penguins Living penguins have been carbon dated and the results said that they had died 8,000 years ago! This is just one of many inaccurate dates given by Carbon dating. Mollusks The shells of living mollusks have been dated using the carbon 14 method, only to find that the method gave it a date as having been dead for 23,000 years! Dead seal The body of a seal that had been dead for 30 years was carbon dated, and the results stated that the seal had died 4,600 years ago! Living seal What about a freshly killed seal? Well, they dated one of those too, the results stated that the seal had died 1,300 years ago. Antarctic seawater has a low level of C14. Consequently organisms living there dated by C14 give ages much older than their true age. (Antarctic Journal, Wahington) A lake Bonney seal known to have died only a few weeks before was carbon dated. The results stated that the seal had died between 515 and 715 years ago. (Antarctic Journal, Washington) Snails Shells from living snails were dated using the Carbon 14 method. The results stated that the snails had died 27,000 years ago. (Science vol. 224 1984 pg. 58-61) Carbon dating is flawed.........put up your math it doesn't change the fact........so now your saying that something has to be a certain age to carbon date.......hello they did it and look at the age differences... Apparently their starting source of carbon is wrong. You cant expect to get accurate results when you are not using the proper measuring tools. All the example you listed would be like using a day to measure how long it takes for the lights to come on when you flip a switch. Are you crazy......these are blind tests.........what is this talk of proper measuring tools....that is such BS. It should show you how fake it is.....If they are given bones and they don't have a clue how old...and they test it...and say it is that much older then it truly is....hello the tests don't work.......It doesn't have to be a certain again or anything in order to work....and shows all these tests what a farce it is. |
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They have bones of prehistoric men with different bone structures, african americans have black skin because their people evolved that way to help shield their skin from sun light. We have different races because the people adapted differently based on where they lived. Many animals evolved different forms of camouflage fur/skin etc for better survivability and more. This is very likely.....but also look at it like this.....If man evolved within his species then ok....I can totally by that....but there is no way man evolved from a whole other species.....no matter what man was never an ape.....and just because the DNA is close means squat.....A cat within the cat family can evolve...but the cat will never be a dog of any kind. And back to the ape....If man evolved from ape...then there would be no more apes....because they evolved to us......but there are apes....so theory blown. Another example.... a horse + a donkey = a mule and all in the same family..l..but no way is any of these going to a elephant.... another example and I worked with these animals... stupid man got a stupid idea to mate lions with tigers.....now in the whole scheme of God's world this was never meant to be. Did this stop the stupid people from doing it no.....and what were the results.....the ligra and what happen with them. They were a genetic mess.....and had many medical issues........It was not meant to be....and even though they are both in the cat family......they never would of mated on their own in the wild... |
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Uhh evolution does actually exist and can be proven. I am not saying this is the case for humans, but in other places in the animal kingdom it is the case. There are animals that have evolved to better suit their environment. Please chas be the first to show me in the last I will give you 500 years of an animal that has evolutionized from one animal to another........ |
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They have bones of prehistoric men with different bone structures, african americans have black skin because their people evolved that way to help shield their skin from sun light. We have different races because the people adapted differently based on where they lived. Many animals evolved different forms of camouflage fur/skin etc for better survivability and more. This is NOT "Evolving" you just descibed above..it is called "ADAPTATION". You are using the Wrong terminology here. Darwin did studies of birds, dont remember which, they came from 2 different species but nested in two different islands. They each adapted to their unique environment eventually becoming 2 separate species of birds. One species becoming another is evolution. |
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if a catterpiller can become a butterfly, and was created by god, then what is not possible, lol.......
are not all things said to be seen thru a "god" persepctive or sight to be as "all things are possible"...... |
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If you are at all familiar with the definition of speciation which is a core component in the evolutionary process, then you might be interested to know that this has occurred not only within the last 500, but the last 100 years with certain Galapagos finches, among other animals of those islands.
Elephants turning into birds isn't evolution, that is silly. The gradual and progressive degrees of speciation over time are. If you want examples of this that occur even faster, the whole world of micro-biota lives and dies and evolves at a daily rate. It is in fact why medical researchers are seriously and rightly concerned that our antibiotics are becoming ineffective. Modern understanding of DNA also pretty much confirms the ideas behind evolution... but of course DNA isn't in the Bible now is it? |
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Do you even research your articles? Potassium to argons half life is 1.26x109 years. You would not use that to date something 11 years old. That is a biased article. You would need something with a very small half life to date something that new. Obviously you missed these two. Carbon dates they did not like Carbon dating is frequently an embarrassment to Scientists. Here are some Carbon 14 dates that were rejected because they did not agree with evolution Penguins Living penguins have been carbon dated and the results said that they had died 8,000 years ago! This is just one of many inaccurate dates given by Carbon dating. Mollusks The shells of living mollusks have been dated using the carbon 14 method, only to find that the method gave it a date as having been dead for 23,000 years! Dead seal The body of a seal that had been dead for 30 years was carbon dated, and the results stated that the seal had died 4,600 years ago! Living seal What about a freshly killed seal? Well, they dated one of those too, the results stated that the seal had died 1,300 years ago. Antarctic seawater has a low level of C14. Consequently organisms living there dated by C14 give ages much older than their true age. (Antarctic Journal, Wahington) A lake Bonney seal known to have died only a few weeks before was carbon dated. The results stated that the seal had died between 515 and 715 years ago. (Antarctic Journal, Washington) Snails Shells from living snails were dated using the Carbon 14 method. The results stated that the snails had died 27,000 years ago. (Science vol. 224 1984 pg. 58-61) Carbon dating is flawed.........put up your math it doesn't change the fact........so now your saying that something has to be a certain age to carbon date.......hello they did it and look at the age differences... Apparently their starting source of carbon is wrong. You cant expect to get accurate results when you are not using the proper measuring tools. All the example you listed would be like using a day to measure how long it takes for the lights to come on when you flip a switch. Are you crazy......these are blind tests.........what is this talk of proper measuring tools....that is such BS. It should show you how fake it is.....If they are given bones and they don't have a clue how old...and they test it...and say it is that much older then it truly is....hello the tests don't work.......It doesn't have to be a certain again or anything in order to work....and shows all these tests what a farce it is. Yes it does, if something has a halflife of 10k years and you measure it 2 days later you are not gonna be able to see any difference in decay. If its half life is 15 hours you will see a lot of difference. In all science, what you use to measure is highly important. |
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fundalmentalist blah blah blah.........I really hate that word.....
Caps for a reason ANIMALS EVOLVE.......YES ANIMALS EVOLVE INTO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SPECIES NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER HAPPEN NEVER WILL STILL WAITING FOR ONE AMIMAL TO PROVE THIS WRONG.....JUST ONE. EVOLVING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FUNDAMENTALIST ANYTHING...... HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF I CALLED YOU A FUNDAMENTALIST ALIENT JB OR ABRA HOW ABOUT A FUNDAMENTALIST PANTIESTE IT'S GETTING OLD......AND WHO ARE THE JUDGES HERE......TSK TSK NOW ONE OTHER THING......IF YOU BELIEVE THAT AN AMIMAL CHANGES FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER OVER TIME....OR THAT MAN CAN GO FROM A PIECE OF FLOSSOM, TO A FISH, TO A MONKEY, TO A MAN..... THEN THIS GOES AGAINST GOD.....NO MATTER HOW YOU SLICE IT....DICE IT......OR TWIST IT TO FIT YOUR NEEDS...... YOU EITHER HAVE CREATION GOD OR EVOLUTION god and goddesses. |
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They have bones of prehistoric men with different bone structures, african americans have black skin because their people evolved that way to help shield their skin from sun light. We have different races because the people adapted differently based on where they lived. Many animals evolved different forms of camouflage fur/skin etc for better survivability and more. This is NOT "Evolving" you just descibed above..it is called "ADAPTATION". You are using the Wrong terminology here. Darwin did studies of birds, dont remember which, they came from 2 different species but nested in two different islands. They each adapted to their unique environment eventually becoming 2 separate species of birds. One species becoming another is evolution. but their still birds.....they didn't turn into aligators.....now did they.......... |
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060714-evolution_2.html
How about 14 species of finches from 1 |
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They have bones of prehistoric men with different bone structures, african americans have black skin because their people evolved that way to help shield their skin from sun light. We have different races because the people adapted differently based on where they lived. Many animals evolved different forms of camouflage fur/skin etc for better survivability and more. This is NOT "Evolving" you just descibed above..it is called "ADAPTATION". You are using the Wrong terminology here. Darwin did studies of birds, dont remember which, they came from 2 different species but nested in two different islands. They each adapted to their unique environment eventually becoming 2 separate species of birds. One species becoming another is evolution. but their still birds.....they didn't turn into aligators.....now did they.......... They are still different species of birds |
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if a catterpiller can become a butterfly, and was created by god, then what is not possible, lol....... are not all things said to be seen thru a "god" persepctive or sight to be as "all things are possible"...... It's still the same animal.....it's just part of it process of getting to be a butterfly.......but was it a dog first....and then went in the cacoon and came out a butterfly....NO NO NO |
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060714-evolution_2.html How about 14 species of finches from 1 BUT THEIR STILL FINCHES.......did the finch start out as a snail, turn into a lizard and then became a finch....NO NO NO |
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