you forget one thing, tribo.

The Lord governs his people.

it is that simple, tribo.

He also governs the actions of nations and governments as pleases Him.

The individual has every right to accept or reject His leadership, but are still under authority of governments, be they such as they are.

The Christian is not exempt from being subject to such authority, at all ; et al.


The difference is in the purposes of self government, which is directly related to the personal relationship each has with the creator.

Be it Christrian or otherwise.

Be that it is a Christian self governance of the individual, then and only then is the leading from the Holy Spirit, or to the end that the Christian comes to that, ultimately.


Beyond that, it is just a life of good works.

Yet, the Governor of nations is still the LORD, like it or not, know it or not, believe it or not.

Welcome to reality.


We are all men and women under authority.


some pretentiously assume to be rebels, but that is a romantic notion, not one of truth.

peace, out.

In your imagination perhaps. In your mind maybe.

There are only men governing nations Wouldee. Only men. And they are poor pathetic men at that.

Your imaginary "Lord" is no where to be found in the governance of any nation. There is only the law of cause and effect at work here.

JB

When The ONE reveals himself to the world its gonna be the biggest shocker in human history. I can promise you that.

If the bible - god's word, jesus doesn't promise that for the time were in, then how can you presume to say you can "promise" me that???

I promised you its gonna be a shocker, nothing more. I do not know when. Do not twist my words

Im not interested in playing word games with you Tribo. Do not twist my words if you do not want me to twist yours.

sorry MM, you've missed it by about 1900+yrs. if there's ever a time machine before you pass, which i hope is no time soon, maybe you can revisit it, the destruction of jeusalem that is where all prophesy of the end times ends.

What one are you talking about Mirror?

I know what you are talking about. Indeed,there have been men down through the centuries who have interpreted the prophetic scriptures that way.

The Glory of the Coming Of The LORD

Who would that be though? What Lord are you talking about?

JB

Think, JB.

would you have Him govern through ruthless dictatorial edicts and remove choices from abounding?

Even corporations require a spirit of co-operation to thrive.

As a matter of fact, every institution requires sharing of eresponsibilities.

Some may argue that peace is not prolofic enough in the world to make the Lord's governance plausibly relevant and germaine at all.

I do not hold that view at all.

Benevolence and grace and mercy abide in men, but it moves slowly and only when convenient.

Where does the convenience come from?

from consensus?

from enlightened self interest?

man is slow, but the Lord is quick to work with that.

gobble dee gook, to be sure LOL

The Savior of all mankind

yes and for a reason, they see the truth in this, both biblical and by history. So why would you believe in a dispengelic view that has been popularized for a scant century or so? Have you read or studied preterist views? have you read of Darby from history and not by dispensational heresy? are you really willing to put your faith on the line for such belief's as they hold? If you are then why? what makes you so positive without doubt that your belief is so true that you can state such as you have?

I have faith

So do they MM, so do they - they are your brothers and sisters in christ also.

And who is that Mirror?

When the time is right, HE will stand revealed.

What on earth are you talking about Mirror? Are you practicing for your own religion? Practicing to be some new cult leader or something?