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Topic: Let's talk about Scientology
feralcatlady's photo
Fri 07/04/08 08:21 AM


Im sorry Sweet Lee....But I have to calls them as I sees Them....and remember I live in Hollywood.....and most of the stars here go right to the scientology compound right here.....I know a lot about this false religion...and thats what it is.....eigonothe s
laugh I NEVER said that I was a Scientologistlaugh

:smile: I am merely trying to answer peoples questions in an unbiased fashion. :smile:



smooched smooched :heart:

Belushi's photo
Fri 07/04/08 08:30 AM
questions ...

Do people think scientology is a cult?

When did christianity cease being a cult?

Why do we see scientology as a freak show, when christianity must have gone through these stages in its evolutionary stage.

Will there be Scientologist missionaries that will "convert" all the god-squad?

Will all the god-squad eventually bow to the power of scientology, the way they brutalised the indigenous populations of the "uncivilised" world into doing so?


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feralcatlady's photo
Fri 07/04/08 08:43 AM

questions ...

Do people think scientology is a cult?

ANSWER: Yes it is a cult


When did christianity cease being a cult?

Answer: Is it any wonder, then, that orthodox Christians feel called upon to openly denounce such perversions of clearly defined and historically accepted biblical terminology, and claim that the cults have no rights—scholastically, biblically, or linguistically—to redefine biblical terms as they do?

We ought never to forget for one moment that things are what they are by definition. Any geometric figure whose circumference is pi X 2r is by definition circular. Any two figures whose congruency can be determined by the application of angle-side-angle, side-angle-side, or side-side-side is, by definition, a triangle. To expand this, we might point out that any formula that expresses hydrogen to be in two parts and oxygen to be in one is water, and hydrogen to be in two parts, sulfur in one part, and oxygen in four parts is sulfuric acid. H2O can never be H2SO4. Nor can the Atonement become atonement as the theology of the Gnostic cults (Christian Science, Unity, New Thought) explains it. It simply cannot be, if language means anything.

To spiritualize texts and doctrines or attempt to explain them away on the basis of the nebulous word “interpretation” is scholastic dishonesty, and it is not uncommonly found in leading cult literature. Cultists are destined to find out that the power of Christianity is not in its terminology but in the relationship of the individual to the historical Christ of revelation. The divine-human encounter must take place. One must become a new creation in Christ Jesus, and the emptying of Christian terminology of all its historical meanings serves only the purpose of confusion and can never vitiate the force of the gospel, which is the person of the Savior performing the historical function of redeeming the sinner by grace.

The Christ of Scripture is an eternal, divine personality who cannot be dismissed by a flip of the cultist’s redefinition switch, regardless of how deftly it is done.

Why do we see scientology as a freak show, when christianity must have gone through these stages in its evolutionary stage.

ANSWER: I would say no again.....because Christianity is based soly on a personal relationship between Christ and the individual.


Will there be Scientologist missionaries that will "convert" all the god-squad?

Will all the god-squad eventually bow to the power of scientology, the way they brutalised the indigenous populations of the "uncivilised" world into doing so?

ANSWER: NEVER



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ANSWER: I say Bring it on.....and please read carefully what I have above about Scientology........It is a cult in every senst of the word.


Definition of a cult:


A religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, under the direction of a charismatic leader.
The members of such a religion or sect. Based on what the leader feels is right, not God.


Belushi's photo
Sat 07/05/08 12:49 AM

questions ...

Do people think scientology is a cult?

ANSWER: Yes it is a cult


When did christianity cease being a cult?

Answer: Is it any wonder, then, that orthodox Christians feel called upon to openly denounce such perversions of clearly defined and historically accepted biblical terminology, and claim that the cults have no rights—scholastically, biblically, or linguistically—to redefine biblical terms as they do?

We ought never to forget for one moment that things are what they are by definition. Any geometric figure whose circumference is pi X 2r is by definition circular. Any two figures whose congruency can be determined by the application of angle-side-angle, side-angle-side, or side-side-side is, by definition, a triangle. To expand this, we might point out that any formula that expresses hydrogen to be in two parts and oxygen to be in one is water, and hydrogen to be in two parts, sulfur in one part, and oxygen in four parts is sulfuric acid. H2O can never be H2SO4. Nor can the Atonement become atonement as the theology of the Gnostic cults (Christian Science, Unity, New Thought) explains it. It simply cannot be, if language means anything.

To spiritualize texts and doctrines or attempt to explain them away on the basis of the nebulous word “interpretation” is scholastic dishonesty, and it is not uncommonly found in leading cult literature. Cultists are destined to find out that the power of Christianity is not in its terminology but in the relationship of the individual to the historical Christ of revelation. The divine-human encounter must take place. One must become a new creation in Christ Jesus, and the emptying of Christian terminology of all its historical meanings serves only the purpose of confusion and can never vitiate the force of the gospel, which is the person of the Savior performing the historical function of redeeming the sinner by grace.

The Christ of Scripture is an eternal, divine personality who cannot be dismissed by a flip of the cultist’s redefinition switch, regardless of how deftly it is done.

Why do we see scientology as a freak show, when christianity must have gone through these stages in its evolutionary stage.

ANSWER: I would say no again.....because Christianity is based soly on a personal relationship between Christ and the individual.


Will there be Scientologist missionaries that will "convert" all the god-squad?

Will all the god-squad eventually bow to the power of scientology, the way they brutalised the indigenous populations of the "uncivilised" world into doing so?

ANSWER: NEVER


But isnt that what the indigenous populations could have thought when they were worshipping the sun?




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ANSWER: I say Bring it on.....and please read carefully what I have above about Scientology........It is a cult in every senst of the word.


Definition of a cult:


A religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, under the direction of a charismatic leader.
The members of such a religion or sect. Based on what the leader feels is right, not God.




But who considers the religion or sect to be false?
Did the Romans consider christianity to be unorthodox or extremist?

Because they were definitely under the direction of a charismatic leader - JC.

JC said many things which said were right and people still disagree with.

The point Im trying to make is that there is no difference between Scientology now and Christianity 1800 years ago.

They are both cultish membership clubs, but one has more members than the other.

davidben1's photo
Sat 07/05/08 07:00 AM
WILL ANY THAT KNOW "WHOLE TRUTH" ASK OR SELL IT FOR EVEN ONE DOLLAR.........

WILL ANY THAT "PASS" WHOLE TRUTH EVER HOLD IT FOR SELF GAIN, OR THEMSELF......

WILL ANY THAT HAS HEARD ALL TRUTH EVER DECLARE ANY OTHER RELIGION TO BE WRONG, AND THEMSELF RIGHT, AND TO EVEN ATTACH A NAME TO ANYTHING SHOW LACK OF WISDOM...........THIS IN ITSELF CREATE A ANOTHER RELIGION, AND MORE OF THE SAME THAT HAS CREATED ALL THAT IS ALREADY, AND WHAT IS ALREADY HAS COME TO THE END OF IT'S USEFUL INTENDED PURPOSE......

ALL THE WORDS OF ALL MEN SPOKEN ARE CORRECT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND ALL ARE TRUE AS HALF-TRUTHS, BUT IF ANY SHALL COME FORTH, WITH THE WHOLE TRUTH, THEN THIS WILL GIVE RISE TO WHATEVER BE THE "GREATEST TRUTH" EVER HEARD, AND THIS CAN ONLY HAPPEN BY THE CAUSE AND EFFECT OF THE TRUTH BEING HEARD........

IF THERE BE A REAL GOD, THEN THINGS THAT "ARE TO BE" NEED NO PLAN OR IDEA TO BE FOLLOWED TO FULFILL.......

WILL ANYTHING THAT HAS POWER EVER PUSH "ITSELF" TO THE TOP.....

NOTHING IS IN ABANDON NOT FOR A REASON, AND ALL ARE AS PROPHECIED TO BECOME, AS CHILDREN, AND MANY MEEK, AND HUMBLED, AND PREPARED TO "HEAR" OR BELIEVE FIRST, AND NEED NOT A LEADER, EXCEPT ONE THAT POINT BACK TO EACH THEMSELF......

WILL NOT ANY "GREATEST" TRUTH HATH THE POWER TO MAKE ALL MEN RECOGNIZE WHAT "ALREADY BE IN THEM".........

HOW COULD THIS EVER BE ACCOMPLISHED IF THE TRUTH CAME TO POINT TO SOMETHING OUTSIDE, AS WOULD NOT THAT CREATE MORE SELF DOUBT, WHICH IS WHAT THE WHOLE TRUTH INDEED HAS COME TO REMOVE, BY SHOWING THAT THE TRUTH EACH ALREADY HAD, AND JUST LACKED THE CONFIDENCE, AS FEAR WAS ALWAYS THE GUIDE, AS PURPOSED, TO BRING FORTH WISDOM, THEN ALL FEAR IS CAST OUT FOR ETERNITY TO BEGIN TO BE FELT.........

EVEN ANY THAT SAY THEY HAVE NOT FEAR, THEN THEY ARE DECIEVED, AND SPEAK NOT THEIR HEART, AS NO MORTAL EXIST WITHOUT IT, AS IT BE PURPOSED EVEN BY THE VERY GRAVITY THAT PULL ONE TO THE GROUND, AND WHO HAS MADE GRAVITY THEMSELF, AND JUST IN THE SAME MANNOR, NO MAN CAN CAST OUT HIS OWN FEAR, AS IT CANNOT EVEN BE SEEN UNTIL THE PERFECT TIME IT IS MADE KNOWN TO EXIST WITHIN.............

CAN ANY ENTER "NO FEAR" UNTIL ALL OF WHAT ONESELF HAS BEEN, IS, AND WILL BE IS CLEARLY SEE AND KNOWN AND ADMITTED, AND EACH HEART WHISPER THIS ALL THE DAY, SO WHAT PURPOSE SERVE ONESELF TO RUN FROM ONES OWN HEART, AND WHAT IT WHISPER, AND TRY TO WASH ONESELF BY GOOD DEEDS, OR COVER ONESELF BY SEEING THE GREATER EVIL OF ANOTHER, AND ANY SORT OF THIS HAS NO PURPOSE WHEN THE TIME OF DESTINY OF ONES OWN FREEDOM BE AT HAND........


feralcatlady's photo
Sat 07/05/08 07:14 AM


questions ...

Do people think scientology is a cult?

ANSWER: Yes it is a cult


When did christianity cease being a cult?

Answer: Is it any wonder, then, that orthodox Christians feel called upon to openly denounce such perversions of clearly defined and historically accepted biblical terminology, and claim that the cults have no rights—scholastically, biblically, or linguistically—to redefine biblical terms as they do?

We ought never to forget for one moment that things are what they are by definition. Any geometric figure whose circumference is pi X 2r is by definition circular. Any two figures whose congruency can be determined by the application of angle-side-angle, side-angle-side, or side-side-side is, by definition, a triangle. To expand this, we might point out that any formula that expresses hydrogen to be in two parts and oxygen to be in one is water, and hydrogen to be in two parts, sulfur in one part, and oxygen in four parts is sulfuric acid. H2O can never be H2SO4. Nor can the Atonement become atonement as the theology of the Gnostic cults (Christian Science, Unity, New Thought) explains it. It simply cannot be, if language means anything.

To spiritualize texts and doctrines or attempt to explain them away on the basis of the nebulous word “interpretation” is scholastic dishonesty, and it is not uncommonly found in leading cult literature. Cultists are destined to find out that the power of Christianity is not in its terminology but in the relationship of the individual to the historical Christ of revelation. The divine-human encounter must take place. One must become a new creation in Christ Jesus, and the emptying of Christian terminology of all its historical meanings serves only the purpose of confusion and can never vitiate the force of the gospel, which is the person of the Savior performing the historical function of redeeming the sinner by grace.

The Christ of Scripture is an eternal, divine personality who cannot be dismissed by a flip of the cultist’s redefinition switch, regardless of how deftly it is done.

Why do we see scientology as a freak show, when christianity must have gone through these stages in its evolutionary stage.

ANSWER: I would say no again.....because Christianity is based soly on a personal relationship between Christ and the individual.


Will there be Scientologist missionaries that will "convert" all the god-squad?

Will all the god-squad eventually bow to the power of scientology, the way they brutalised the indigenous populations of the "uncivilised" world into doing so?

ANSWER: NEVER


But isnt that what the indigenous populations could have thought when they were worshipping the sun?




these, and many more questions on the ..... Sci-light zone


ANSWER: I say Bring it on.....and please read carefully what I have above about Scientology........It is a cult in every senst of the word.


Definition of a cult:


A religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, under the direction of a charismatic leader.
The members of such a religion or sect. Based on what the leader feels is right, not God.




But who considers the religion or sect to be false?
Did the Romans consider christianity to be unorthodox or extremist?

Because they were definitely under the direction of a charismatic leader - JC.

JC said many things which said were right and people still disagree with.

The point Im trying to make is that there is no difference between Scientology now and Christianity 1800 years ago.

They are both cultish membership clubs, but one has more members than the other.


ANSWER: Well if you want to believe this....totally up to you....but if your asking my opinion....which your were....then I can only give you my opinion as I see it, and the answer is always going to be the same. There is God, and there is Jesus Christ and to worship any other god's is the greatest sin to God the Father. When for example the mormon church was born and they took the bible and rewrote it to fit his needs....regarding many wifes, etc. This is so clear in the bible..

Rev. 22-19 And if anyone takes away from the prophecy of this book, If any one add to them, God shalll add to him the plagues which are written in this book.

And if anyone "takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life.

davidben1's photo
Sat 07/05/08 07:33 AM
what human that has seen their own guilt, will try to spare themself plagues......

what human that "truly believes" no self effort can achieve eternal life will try to SECURE and SAFEGAURD their own, and seems as why it was called a gift......

would this not show the heart DISTRUST god, and that indeed all the trust one have be in themself.....

seems to be herein lies the deception of any scripture if it be read with the heart MOST trying to saving itself....

would not any that truly believed in their own guilt of anything not resist hell........

each mortal is moved from a book of life or mortality, and put into the lambs book of life, or immortality.......

so what human then should fear being removed from the book of life........

feralcatlady's photo
Sat 07/05/08 09:46 AM
I have no fear....of God, of my place with God. There is only one true way to heaven and that is through Faith....never works...

God is always first and foremost my guiding light...From the time I open my eyes in the morning, until I shut them at night...God is who leads me......Do I fear that I will be left out of the Book of Life....never. The only ones to fear being removed are the ones that wish to do things there way.....

Belushi's photo
Sat 07/05/08 10:44 AM

ANSWER: Well if you want to believe this....totally up to you....but if your asking my opinion....which your were....then I can only give you my opinion as I see it, and the answer is always going to be the same. There is God, and there is Jesus Christ and to worship any other god's is the greatest sin to God the Father. When for example the mormon church was born and they took the bible and rewrote it to fit his needs....regarding many wifes, etc. This is so clear in the bible..


I was asking your opinion, but you chose to just reply with dogma, which I have heard before and it doesnt answer the questions.

Would you mind giving me your opinion on these ... Thanks flowerforyou


But who considers the religion or sect to be false?
Did the Romans consider christianity to be unorthodox or extremist?


feralcatlady's photo
Sat 07/05/08 10:53 AM
Edited by feralcatlady on Sat 07/05/08 10:58 AM


ANSWER: Well if you want to believe this....totally up to you....but if your asking my opinion....which your were....then I can only give you my opinion as I see it, and the answer is always going to be the same. There is God, and there is Jesus Christ and to worship any other god's is the greatest sin to God the Father. When for example the mormon church was born and they took the bible and rewrote it to fit his needs....regarding many wifes, etc. This is so clear in the bible..


I was asking your opinion, but you chose to just reply with dogma, which I have heard before and it doesnt answer the questions.

Would you mind giving me your opinion on these ... Thanks flowerforyou


But who considers the religion or sect to be false?
Did the Romans consider christianity to be unorthodox or extremist?




I believe what I do from experiences I have lived.....not from or by the church.....Every answer I give is from me....from what I know....from what I have been shown...and from what "I" know to be truth. And mainly from my heart......so put me in the box once again with your dogma crap....because to me that is exactly what it is.....utter crap.

I have a "Personal" relationship with the Lord & Savior and I listen and follow the path he has set forth....its that simple. For me myslef and I.....when anyone takes the word and changes it to fit their particular needs this is a false church, a false prophet is who would lead said chuch.

The Romans leaders were living in their own worlds led by old testaments teachings. But when Christ died it made old testament teaching no longer applicable....I am sure many thought Christianity to be unorthodox and extreme.....but then again if I was living in that time...And God came and spoke to me....you bet your sweet bippy I would be preaching it just as I am now.

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Sat 07/05/08 02:33 PM


..........if in yonder days many humans did not see the truth as it was DISPLAYED IN PLAIN SITE, than all that say they believe in jesus would have NEED to see how "these" that "did not see" are INNOCENT, or this appears to show no more TRUTH be known NOW than THEN, as what else could keep the same thing from happening again........jmo

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