Well I don't make fun of anybody. I am the one who gets laughed at when I post things, so don't worry. I am just curious and want to learn more about everything. I have been studying atheist views for awhile now and now want to shift my studies to the less popular belief systems.

I was referring to 5000 members in Germany alone?? I know that Scientology is much bigger as a whole.

Yes tell us more. It doesn't hurt to learn the different religous systems or cults and how they think. I find it interesting. thank you for taking so much time off to do this for us.

John

I'm not gonna talk about Scientology's origins; however, Scientology today is used by a lot of the upper class elite as a way to find community with each other, and also give them a sense of spirituality in their life. Its much easier than Christianity or pretty much any other religion because it encourages them to be selfish and self absorbed. So its really a way of affirming their right to act like jerks.

Sorry, I have no respect for the church of Scientology, but i do love a lot of the people who practice it.

Hey I think I can act like a jerk without joining Scientology. But I'm a nice person.

You progress through levels of "clear" in Scientology. You do so by undergoing a process called auditingOne of their primary tools is the E-meter Here is an excerpt of the program for OT level III This contains many of the core beliefs of Scientlogy This is authentic straight from the Church of Scientology (without their permission).


OT III

1. Check for any BTs (E-meter, theta perceptics, intention, pressure areas, telepathy is HOW) on and in:

Body surface (WHERE)
Body inside
In thetan's space (Approx. 40' X 60')
On thetan
2. Run Incident 2, then Incident 1, until BT(s) have gone and are released. Then, check for additional Incidents 1's and 2's until dry (on the meter).

3. Return to Step 2, to find new ones to run. Use ruds while running if necessary. There is an effort to stop and hurry on Incident 1.

4. When complete, exact date and run both of the incidents on self.

5. If a bog, do Millazo Pack. Write down some 'mutual associations'. Re each one on this list, FIND THE INCIDENT THAT MADE THEM ONE, and run that. Then, run OT III, Incident 2 and 1 after that cluster is broken up. Occasionally, BTs will have an incident that made them one other then Incident 2, thus this action.

INCIDENT 2: Dates approx. 75 million years ago, earth years, location, Earth, named TEEGEEACK at that time (meaning planet of sorrow), involved 33 planets of this sector, each with populations of 80 - 200 BILLION PER PLANET. XENU, the ruler, and 'Renegades' decided to solve overpopulation as follows, but was halted and XENU placed in a mountain trap after over 5 years of war.

Incident 2 Patter: DETERMINE IF A LOYAL OFFICER, RESIDENT OF EARTH, or FROM ANOTHER PLANET. If the latter two, start at their being picked up and shot and if from another planet, frozen in an ice cube, transported (flying saucer), taken to mountain, a volcano always, H BOMB EXPLOSION, TERRIFIC WINDS, EFFORT TO ORIENT, MAGNETIC STRIP UP FROM CENTER OF VOLCANO OR DOWN FROM AN AIRPLANE, EFFORT TO GET OFF AND FIND REST OF SELF, PROTEST, BEING PULLED ON STRIP, VISUAL DISPLAY OF INSTRUCTION BY A 'GO TO THE PILOT', WHO SAYS 'HE'S MOCKING IT UP'. There are 26 - 29 days of implanting (the CC and OT II, God and Devil material, reasons for this being done, helicopters, etc.) that need not be run. SOME WERE PACKAGED INTO CLUSTERS in the HAWAII and LOS PALMAS ISLANDS (8 to a cluster). If a loyal officer, the sequence is SURPRISE at being shot, placed at the volcano. Use meter to determine and determine volcano. Watch for earlier beginning (pulled in for a tax audit), run only up to the 'HE'S MOCKING IT UP' as BTs can go into 'free fall', spin and get sick from the 29 days implanting, with pneumonia and death the implanted phenomena of free fall in addition to insomnia. Coltus, the Reigning planet, Hubbard a part of the 'rescuing force that put an end to it'. Don't force or push them off, and answer the BTs questions. There were probably not any good or bad guys in this incident, although Hubbard insists the sector to have been a cultural desert since. Very SP BTs can usually be brought around with adept 2WC, Charm, Ruds, but if not use Power Processing on the rare hard core.

Incident 1: Dates 4 QUADRILLION YEARS AGO (which is 15 zeros or 4,000 trillion years ago).

Incident 1 Patter: LOUD SNAP, WAVES OF LIGHT, HORSES DRAWING CHARIOT RIGHT TO LEFT, CHERUB COMES OUT, BLOWS HORN, COMES CLOSE, SHATTERING SERIES OF SNAPS, CHERUB FADES, RETREATS, BLACK MASS IS DUMPED ON THE THETAN.

Volcano List

HAWAII Pacific Ocean
MT HOOD Pacific NW
MT BAYER Pacific NW
MT RAINIER Washington
MT ETNA Mediterranean
MT ST. HELENS Washington
MT EREBUS Antarctica
MT FUJI Japan
MT EVEREST Himalayas - Nepal & Tibet
MT KILIMANJARO Northeastern Africa
LAS PALMAS Canary Islands off NE
Africa MT SHASTA California
MT VESUVIUS Italy
MT KRAKATOA Indonesia
MT PELEE Martinique
MT MCKINLEY Alaska
Volcanoes existed New Zealand
at these locations Philippines
then, but no Mexico
longer South America
North Dakota
Vermont
Scotland
Iceland

Note: These were the most common locations. 600 other volcanoes did and do exist, which I did not list.

You clear up that a BT is a body thetan, The instructions are self explanatory, Basically, the reason they are doing this is to where they won't be confused with hundreds of different thoughts so that they can have some peace and quiet, and so they won't be other-determined. After they have run all these remnants of folks out by telepathic auditing on them, they attain the state of freedom from overwhelm and a return of full self determinism. One cleans off those 4 areas in the order listed. It is generally underrun, it is rarely overrun. What you have been doing all the way up the Bridge is breaking these clusters apart. With Expanded Dianetics, Grades and all the previous auditing, you have been taking these off. About 1/2 of the BTs come off and leave and go live their own lives by doing the lower Bridge right, and the other 1/2 come off here by doing OT III correctly. So, if you don't do the lower Bridge correctly on someone and they do a real good job on OT III, they will get about 1/2 of it done. It is pretty wild material to run and the gains of it are beyond description. It is not a crazy idea at all. The irony of it is that it happened a lot more than once. It is listed as an event that happened 75 million years ago. It probably happened to the preclear dozens of times. So, watch out for your dates.

After that you do not do OT VII, and then put them on OT III again, like the churches do. You do OT IV which is included here. After they have done that they have attained the state of certainty of self as a being and freedom from uncertainty of self.

On OT V they attain the state of freedom from fixated introversion into MEST and gain the ability to refamiliarize as a thetan exterior with the physical universe.

The German government wants them out because of Operation Snow White. NOT because of any of their beliefs.

Operation Snow White was the Church of Scientology's name for a project during the 1970s to purge unfavorable records about Scientology and its founder L. Ron Hubbard. This project included a series of infiltrations and thefts from 136 government agencies, foreign embassies and consulates, as well as private organizations critical of Scientology, carried out by Church members, in more than 30 countries;[1] the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history[2] with up to 5,000 covert agents.[3] This was also the operation that exposed 'Operation Freakout', due to the fact that this was the case that brought the government into investigation on the Church.[3]

Under this program, Scientology operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices, most notably those of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service. Eleven highly-placed Church executives, including Mary Sue Hubbard (wife of founder L. Ron Hubbard and second-in-command of the organization), pleaded guilty or were convicted in federal court of obstructing justice, burglary of government offices, and theft of documents and government property. The case was United States vs. Mary Sue Hubbard et al., 493 F. Supp. 209 (D.D.C. 1979

Don't they believe when we die we go in a space ship? Ya know, kinda' like E.T.

no They believe in reincarnation. They believe that this has all happened before and it will all happen again. I put most of their beliefs on this page a couple posts up

A Long time ago I was inquiring into what scientology was... those people scared me...

1. they wanted access to my bank account numbers

2. they tried to force me into their "training" classes.

3. when I never went back they kept sending me handwritten letters...it was spooky. It looked like it was hand delivered...no return address or stamp & the back wasn't glued shut.

That's what I remember about scientology.

WOW I'm impressed. They took on the I.R.S. which I believe is a criminal organization anyway. LOL When do I join up?

This is the reason why the governments do not like Scientology, NOT their beliefs

parts of what you said sounds made up

So is the membership of Scientology still growing today by mass numbers? Or do they not worry about how many members, but what kind of members. For example:celeberities and wealthy people.

Makes you wonder what their real goal is? Are they there to challenge government?

Are they there to just make alot of money for the handful of top ceo's that run the show.

Is Tom Cruise second in charge or just a member?

Did you read the OT III program I posted? That is pure Scientology if you are interested in knowing the truth. A person had to sue the Church of Scientology 3 times to obtain that info

I did and very interesting indeed. Still what more information. I am like a sponge. lol

There are many different groups of Scientologists,not all of them are after money. it is like any other religion in that regards. Its unfair to label them all as scam artists with such a broad brush.

Dude mirror, did you see that 6 hour interview with that Scientologist that claims he was Jesus real father in his past life lol?

yes

I am NOT a Scientologist. I am just trying to be fair and honest about it.

Funny stuff. Then he said he tried to tell Jesus and Jesus beat the crap out of him lmao.