Topic: What does everone think about Florida new law, you allowed t
adj4u's photo
Fri 07/31/09 07:12 AM

you all have taken this topic so far off topic even I am now confused laugh

The law just allows employees to legally store their weapons in their vehicles while parked at place of employment. Protecting the employee from being dismissed or fired for bringing his weapon.






it is a positive step in the right direction to permit weapon in vehicle while at work

it would be another step in the right direction to permit carry at work and other places

this would reduce the acts of violent committed (per the stats) but any positive step in the direction of an armed law biding citizen is a step in the right direction

because if they are not a law biding citizen they will not care if it is against the law or not

franshade's photo
Fri 07/31/09 07:13 AM
not sure I agree, while I do fight for my right to 'bare arms' :wink: - I see no real purpose to arm my vehicle. jmo

adj4u's photo
Fri 07/31/09 07:49 AM

not sure I agree, while I do fight for my right to 'bare arms' :wink: - I see no real purpose to arm my vehicle. jmo


i agree they should be able to carry it in

that way no one will break into the vehicle and steal it

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i think you should bare more than arms :wink:

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Mon 08/31/09 07:38 AM
If someone is carrying a gun with them what makes you think they are going to shoot you? O and if someone was really mad enough to come to work and blow your brains out I dont think it would matter whether "the law" allowed them to bring a gun to work or not. They would just come and shoot you regardless...

ForestHawk's photo
Fri 09/04/09 02:50 PM
Edited by ForestHawk on Fri 09/04/09 02:51 PM
What I can't figure out is why this law is needed. Get a concealed weapons permit and that takes care of the problem. If you can't get a concealed weapons permit for whatever reason then you shouldn't be carrying a weapon outside of your home in the first place.

AJAMEA's photo
Mon 09/07/09 05:01 PM
i don't like it.Auto theft is on the rise and keeping guns in the cars is putting guns in criminals hands

no photo
Thu 09/24/09 09:39 PM
Its ok with me, I live in the country and we all have guns anyway.
Crist is an ******* who doesnt have ANY Floridians best interests at heart. Must be Jebs buddy.
Visit Florida, the Prison State !!
It cost you 225 bucks to register your car now, it used to be 500, and Govt made Fla stop that crap!

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Thu 10/01/09 11:06 AM
Meh, I'm not for or against it, really. Doesn't really change anything much. Even when it was unlawful it didn't stop crooks and the crazies from carrying their weapons in their vehicles.

dixiedarling88's photo
Wed 11/04/09 06:34 PM
sorry, but if some criminal decides he wants to shoot someone...hes going to bring his gun with him if its illegal or not...i support the law, i should be able to protect myself

dixiedarling88's photo
Wed 11/04/09 06:37 PM
You said it all! Common sense people

Sinatra1490's photo
Tue 12/08/09 12:23 PM
Just for your FYI.

Anyone in the State of Florida is allowed to place a firearm in their glove compartment or center console without a permit. The weapon can be loaded with one in the chamber.

Persons completing a Firearms Safety Course, with said proof of training then can submit an application for a FL Concealed Weapons Permit that will allow them to carry it on their body. So long as it is not worn in certain areas; i.e. places that deliberately state no firearms allowed, municipal/state buildings like schools, courts, post office, military bases/posts and establishments that serve primarily alcohol. (See FL SS. 790.01 & 790.06)

The "castle doctrine" does extend to mean the firearm owners home and vehicle. In Florida, one does not have to retreat if they don't choose to.

This does not give anyone the right to actually discharge the firearm. Nor does it actually give anyone the right to discharge it against anyone else. It must be determined that deadly force was justified to save themselves or others that would have suffered injury or death. That must be investigated by the Law Enforcement body that has jurisdiction in the area of occurence.

It is the individual business' right to discriminate against firearms. Disney has done this and most of the theme parks. Any business may dictate whether or not they wish to allow firearms on or within their property.

With that in mind, and given that statistically in the past 30 years since the law was passed regarding the Concealed Weapons Permit, the rate of forcible felonies have dropped in Florida while the death rate has gone upwards. This would behoove me to believe that the good guys are shooting back and it has become a major deterrent against criminals. They don't know who is armed or not and it gives them second thought before they attack.

Criminals will employ firearms regardless if they have a license or not, obtained legally or not.

I have no problems with folks with firearms. Law abiding people don't normally employ a firearms against another without a damned good reason.

franshade's photo
Tue 12/08/09 01:48 PM

Just for your FYI.

Anyone in the State of Florida is allowed to place a firearm in their glove compartment or center console without a permit. The weapon can be loaded with one in the chamber.

Persons completing a Firearms Safety Course, with said proof of training then can submit an application for a FL Concealed Weapons Permit that will allow them to carry it on their body. So long as it is not worn in certain areas; i.e. places that deliberately state no firearms allowed, municipal/state buildings like schools, courts, post office, military bases/posts and establishments that serve primarily alcohol. (See FL SS. 790.01 & 790.06)

The "castle doctrine" does extend to mean the firearm owners home and vehicle. In Florida, one does not have to retreat if they don't choose to.

This does not give anyone the right to actually discharge the firearm. Nor does it actually give anyone the right to discharge it against anyone else. It must be determined that deadly force was justified to save themselves or others that would have suffered injury or death. That must be investigated by the Law Enforcement body that has jurisdiction in the area of occurence.

It is the individual business' right to discriminate against firearms. Disney has done this and most of the theme parks. Any business may dictate whether or not they wish to allow firearms on or within their property.

With that in mind, and given that statistically in the past 30 years since the law was passed regarding the Concealed Weapons Permit, the rate of forcible felonies have dropped in Florida while the death rate has gone upwards. This would behoove me to believe that the good guys are shooting back and it has become a major deterrent against criminals. They don't know who is armed or not and it gives them second thought before they attack.

Criminals will employ firearms regardless if they have a license or not, obtained legally or not.

I have no problems with folks with firearms. Law abiding people don't normally employ a firearms against another without a damned good reason.


smitten well said smitten


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Wed 03/03/10 09:13 PM
I'm all for it, but personally I rather have my concealed on me at all times. Leaving it in the car does pose a risk of someone else obtaining it. I'm all for the law though. Just have to be smart about it. And for those that say they are against it because criminals can get their hands on it, apparently must not realize what state their living in or what country. USA number one in supplying weapons to the world, and this is florida. Getting guns here is not a problem, legal or not. As a kid I got to see my mother get mugged in front of a marshals in hialeah by 2 black guys. They were never caught, and I was just a child and too far to do anything. If if we had the laws back then as we do now a days, there might of been a chance incidents like that could have been avoided. Criminals usually target those that can't defend themselves. It's different when a criminal has to think twice if someone is armed.

whatthafuzzy's photo
Fri 03/05/10 07:34 AM
I think it is awesome. I think if folks use them the way they are trained, then it's a great form of protection. The criminals who are going to use weapons inappropriately are going to do that regardless of what is legal.

chuck1227's photo
Thu 06/10/10 05:42 PM
I myself, don"t like the new lav. In my line of work If I upset a home owner he might just go back to his place and come out and use the gun on me.

Seakolony's photo
Sat 06/12/10 05:30 AM

It is that whereever you work, you are allowed to bring you gun and leave it in you car,truck, or whatever you drive.

Sorry I posted it in the topic, but it was to long.

I love it and may move back to my home state now.

Seakolony's photo
Sat 06/12/10 05:36 AM

I myself, don"t like the new lav. In my line of work If I upset a home owner he might just go back to his place and come out and use the gun on me.

And guess what that could have happened anyways....because a law abiding citizen would not use their weapon in that manner.....but a criminal which can get a weapon through several means would have one despite and use it despite laws...

docsams's photo
Sun 06/20/10 04:08 PM
i personally like the new law...weapons can be carried safely. i carried a loaded rifle and pistol with a round in the chamber and the weapon on fire around another country for 6 months and it never went off unless i wanted it to and the people you dont want to carry a weapon around are going to do it anyways, regardless of weather it is legal or now...as another said...
guns dont kill people, gun users kill people.

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Thu 08/26/10 06:31 PM
The criminals are already carrying them. I grew up in New Hampshire, where any non-felon could carry a non-concealed firearm just about anywhere they wanted. I've lived in Mississipi where the laws are about the same. Compare their crime rates to places with strict gun laws, Like Massachusettes, New York or California. When decent people are allowed to protect themselves and others, we don't need to depend on the grossly understaffed police. If you were a criminal on the border of New Hampshire and Mass., which state would you pick to go rob somebody? New hampshire and Mississippi don't have many repeat offenders. Good luck making it to three strikes.

orochimaruisabadass's photo
Tue 09/28/10 08:43 PM
i really like this law. im sure ppl were doing it anyway tho.