Topic: What if you knew the future....
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Wed 06/25/08 04:25 PM

What if you knew your future and the future of the world, and when and how everybody you met was going to die?

And what if you knew who the serial killers and child molesters were when you passed them on the street?

How would your life change? What would you do?

If you knew your future and you didn't like it, would you try to change it?

JB


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Wed 06/25/08 04:38 PM
If I knew my future and the future of the world, I would do nothing. My life likely would change in that I might become one of the most successful gamblers of all time!

If you know the future, then there is nothing that you can change, unless of course, we're talking about multiple possibilites. If there are multiple possible futures, then we won't learn them until after we have begun one of our possible futures. That renders knowing ones future as not knowing it at all.

As far as what to do with criminals whom I could recognize? Well, as being a vigilante is illegal, I'd become a cop and I'd know who to keep an eye on!

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Wed 06/25/08 04:42 PM
wasnt there a movie w/Tom Cruise, that they arrest people on the 'fact' that they were to commit crimes in the future. noway

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Wed 06/25/08 04:43 PM

wasnt there a movie w/Tom Cruise, that they arrest people on the 'fact' that they were to commit crimes in the future. noway


Something about the thought police. I didn't see that movie.

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Wed 06/25/08 04:43 PM
timecops, not sure who it was in it though..was thinking arnold??

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Wed 06/25/08 05:05 PM
I would help as many people as I could without revealing too much. We're only human and I know I could handle knowing when I was going to die because I would want to make the most of everything before that happens. However I do not think that most people want to know when they are going to die.

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Wed 06/25/08 05:07 PM
Hey Jeannie!:smile:

I am looking for a superhero outfit that would go good with my supernatural powers! That is if I had the power of seeing the future!

Some claim they have this already.

I find Nostradamus a interesting topic. How true it is, I cannot say!

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Wed 06/25/08 05:15 PM

timecops, not sure who it was in it though..was thinking arnold??


Van Damme was in Timecop....but that's not the one. It was Minority Report with Cruise.

drinker

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Wed 06/25/08 05:24 PM
Why is it that some people cannot stay on topic? laugh offtopic slaphead rofl

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Wed 06/25/08 07:51 PM
Edited by Redykeulous on Wed 06/25/08 07:52 PM
If you knew those kinds of things it would indicate that our lives are pre-existed OR possibly pre-determined and as such, in either case, there would be NOTHING that could be done. So knowing all that stuff would do no good and only cause grief and probably serious psychological damage to a person.



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Wed 06/25/08 08:18 PM
... or if you tried to change it, would it be part of the future (the fact you changed it) or would it be a new future?

The paradox has been debated for years.

Scary thought. Be nice to know if I finally find a small pink frogfish on my diving travels though.

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Wed 06/25/08 08:41 PM

If you knew those kinds of things it would indicate that our lives are pre-existed OR possibly pre-determined and as such, in either case, there would be NOTHING that could be done. So knowing all that stuff would do no good and only cause grief and probably serious psychological damage to a person.


This is true. The only good it would do to know something in advance would be to prepare yourself mentally for it if it involved you personally. If it involved you directly you could probably effect some change to the event but if it did not involve you at all, you may not be able to do anything about it.

I do not believe any event is pre-destined because of the conscious will of individuals involved, and they hold the key to the uncertainty principle.

So if an event was unfolding from its cause, only the person who knew of the event in advance and was involved in some way could effect any change. If they knew of the event and they were not involved with its cause, it is doubtful if they could change it.. unless they interfered in some dramatic way.

JB




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Wed 06/25/08 08:45 PM

... or if you tried to change it, would it be part of the future (the fact you changed it) or would it be a new future?

The paradox has been debated for years.

Scary thought. Be nice to know if I finally find a small pink frogfish on my diving travels though.


I like to imagine the web of reality has many paths and probabilities and that if you altered the future, you simply create a new one in the matrix.

With this kind of setup, it would be like a 3-D holographic movie matrix with an infinite number of possible outcomes for major and even minor events.

That means you could live you life one way, and maybe at some point rewind it and go back and try it over again and do things differently.

JB


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Wed 06/25/08 11:18 PM


wasnt there a movie w/Tom Cruise, that they arrest people on the 'fact' that they were to commit crimes in the future. noway


Something about the thought police. I didn't see that movie.


It was called "Minority Report". Pretty good movie. Not quite the same as the scenario you've established - but close.

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Thu 06/26/08 03:45 AM


:thumbsup: You got it!

It was pretty interesting.



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Thu 06/26/08 06:20 AM


What if you knew your future and the future of the world, and when and how everybody you met was going to die?

And what if you knew who the serial killers and child molesters were when you passed them on the street?

How would your life change? What would you do?

If you knew your future and you didn't like it, would you try to change it?

JB



I would go completely crazy if I knew the answers to all these questions .waving waving .

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Thu 06/26/08 07:44 AM
In parallel universes, there are no time travel paradoxes. You could time travel and change the future or the past. Whatever you change about the past or the future only applies to the parallel universe that you time travelled to.

One could say that our lives are predetermined by looking at the past. The past is not changeable within our own universe.

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Thu 06/26/08 01:03 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/26/08 01:03 PM

In parallel universes, there are no time travel paradoxes. You could time travel and change the future or the past. Whatever you change about the past or the future only applies to the parallel universe that you time travelled to.

One could say that our lives are predetermined by looking at the past. The past is not changeable within our own universe.


There are as many different pasts, as there are memories of the past, and there are as many different futures as their are dreams and intentions.

It is all in the mind, all in the implicate order of the universe. To live it is what makes it real. The observer is what creates reality.

JB

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Thu 06/26/08 06:26 PM


In parallel universes, there are no time travel paradoxes. You could time travel and change the future or the past. Whatever you change about the past or the future only applies to the parallel universe that you time travelled to.

One could say that our lives are predetermined by looking at the past. The past is not changeable within our own universe.


There are as many different pasts, as there are memories of the past, and there are as many different futures as their are dreams and intentions.

It is all in the mind, all in the implicate order of the universe. To live it is what makes it real. The observer is what creates reality.

JB


"Quantum foam makes me roam" ? :wink:

Interestingly, there is a strong current theory that there are a finite number of universes in the multiverse. The number? 6 to the 6th to the 6th.
noway How's about that?

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Thu 06/26/08 06:36 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 06/26/08 06:37 PM



In parallel universes, there are no time travel paradoxes. You could time travel and change the future or the past. Whatever you change about the past or the future only applies to the parallel universe that you time travelled to.

One could say that our lives are predetermined by looking at the past. The past is not changeable within our own universe.


There are as many different pasts, as there are memories of the past, and there are as many different futures as their are dreams and intentions.

It is all in the mind, all in the implicate order of the universe. To live it is what makes it real. The observer is what creates reality.

JB


"Quantum foam makes me roam" ? :wink:

Interestingly, there is a strong current theory that there are a finite number of universes in the multiverse. The number? 6 to the 6th to the 6th.
noway How's about that?


666 ? laugh laugh

I think a universe can be very small or very large. It can be very long in duration or very short. A blink of an eye. But all is short in duration when compared with infinity.

If you create a dream world or universe of thought forms, you probably would have to get a good number of observers to help you maintain its existence since its existence depends upon observers.

So the way to create a universe is to create an illusion, (with your thoughts) much like a hypnotist creates an illusion, then convince a large number of observers to see it and believe in it and interact with it. This maintains it.

Duration of this universe works the same way. If attention does not remain on the universe it will begin to fade away. You must keep their attention in order to maintain the reality. (Or should I say the illusion of reality.) bigsmile

Propaganda probably works much the same way.

JB bigsmile