Topic: will clinton voters vote for mccain
Winx's photo
Tue 06/24/08 04:20 PM

i also put he has race on his side... and as i stated later he has pulled the black card he is actually mixed but he chooses to say black to try to pull the black vote.






Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.


Did you just say Obama's skin color will keep you from voting for him?
How did you get THAT from what she just wrote?


Can you read?

can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black,




Ummm......he is black.

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Tue 06/24/08 05:50 PM
> hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak,

I would be awfully bore repeating once again, but i really wonder what Obama is like Gorbachev.

We, Russian, described Gorbachev in the very same way.

...though for "ability to speak" for Gorbachev in the Russian there's a word.. hmm... "to waffle with c*nt". I do not know would it fit to what Obama says...

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Tue 06/24/08 06:09 PM
Obama is a slick speaker, McCain is a lousy speaqker. Obama sounds a lot like a lawyer to me...will say whatever someone pays him to say, and tlaks all around a subject without ever addressing it. McCain will actually say yes or no occasionally, Obama takes a half hour to say neither, or maybe, or end up on a completely separate topic. He sucks up to every group he speaks with, Nothing more disgusting to me than a suck up. What is he going to do with foreign gov'ts? I'll tell you, he will sell our butts to themn because he only understands courtroom antics, no comprehension of the travesties known as "diplomacy" with foreign countries. JMAO

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Tue 06/24/08 08:07 PM

Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.


So how black would Obama need to be to be 'black enough'? laugh

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Tue 06/24/08 08:33 PM

Obama is a slick speaker, McCain is a lousy speaqker. Obama sounds a lot like a lawyer to me...will say whatever someone pays him to say, and tlaks all around a subject without ever addressing it. McCain will actually say yes or no occasionally, Obama takes a half hour to say neither, or maybe, or end up on a completely separate topic. He sucks up to every group he speaks with, Nothing more disgusting to me than a suck up. What is he going to do with foreign gov'ts? I'll tell you, he will sell our butts to themn because he only understands courtroom antics, no comprehension of the travesties known as "diplomacy" with foreign countries. JMAO


I don't trust anyone who starts every other sentence with 'My friends'.

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Tue 06/24/08 10:37 PM

Supreme Court justices are not sheeple people either Lindy, and they must be approved by the Senate before they can sit the bench!

Just look at Roberts and how many times he has went against Bush already!
You give way to much credence to your neocon gods abilities!noway noway


Why does it always have to be a conservative or liberal judge chosen?

Why not a moderate like Sandra Day O'Connor? huh

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Wed 06/25/08 08:10 AM
I think it doesn't matter who we chose of this bunch... they ALL stink. Talk about being dumbed down....:cry:

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Wed 06/25/08 09:58 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 06/25/08 10:11 AM
Obama is black.

People would be laughing at him if called himself white.
No doubt about it.




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Wed 06/25/08 10:12 AM
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Wed 06/25/08 10:19 AM

lol was my post deleted because i said that was ignorant? that thet census does have a mixed option now, and that on applications they now include other. ??? obama is not black he is mixed the end he is half black and half white. If he says " i am black" he is lying because he is not black if he says " i am white" he is lying because he is not white he is mixed the purpose of this whole thing getting started is my disagreement with him using his race to draw in voters, which fox news has been talking about, but whatever I won't bother posting if my post are going to be deleted.

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Wed 06/25/08 10:44 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Wed 06/25/08 10:47 AM



Bush signed the bill! Given!

He didnt write it however, and it took many legislators signing it before it even made it to his desk!

Secondly, it is a procedure that is only done in 1% of all abortions, and then only in life saving prediciments for the mother, and in teens who often wait, hiding the pregnancy until then from their parents!
The law has been challenged and should be coming before the Supreme Court before long where it is expected to be overturned. The US district courts have already blocked it in several states!

The law allowing Abortions was a Supreme Court decision and as such can only be overturned by the Supreme Court so No the President does not have the power to overturn it!

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One of President Bush's main agenda was to get Partial Birth abortion banned and he did!

Who said the President has to power to overturn a law??????

Your comments about partial birth abortion - TOTAL BS FANTA, TOTAL ABSOLUTE BS!!!!! You know absolutely NOTHING about it. Do I have to go into the morbid details of how it is done, starting from when the baby killer doctor inserts rods into the woman's cervix to stretch it open, starting with 3 rods, next day more rods are inserted day by day until the cervix is fully dilated. THAT ALONE could case a woman's death. And, you think that would not be painful?

Then when cervix is fully dialated, baby killer turns baby around and pulls it out by its feet until the neck appears. Then the baby killer inserts a sharp instrument into the baby's neck puncturing a hole in the baby's neck and then inserts a suction tube AND SUCKS OUT THE BABY'S BRAINS!!! ANIMALISTIC!!! BARBARIC!!!

Save a woman's life - total BS!

A c-section, IF there there is some obscure reason of the woman's life being at risk, is far more safe and saves the baby's life!!

Why are partial birth abortions done? BODY PARTS PEOPLE, BODY PARTS.

IT IS THE MOST HEINOUS GROSS THING THAT CAN BE DONE TO A HUMAN BEING.

sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick sick

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Wed 06/25/08 12:37 PM




Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.



I wanted Hillary. Now I am voting for Obama.



Most Hillary supporters are winx.
The largest group of voters Obama needs to worry about are the Independents. If he picks Hillary as VP most of us will leave him!

Lindy,
Dont you know that a President does not have the ability to reverse the Abortion laws? If thats why you are voting Republican, I hate to tell you, its a false hope! Its not going to happen!




Sorry, Charlie, but it is the president who nominates the Supreme Court judges. And they are the ones who decide on lawsuits on issues appealed to them i.e. Roe v. Wade. Bush got partial birth abortion banned and I PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THAT, I WOULD RATHER BE DEAD DAMNED AND ROTTING IN ABSOLUTE HELL than vote for anyone who is NOT PRO LIFE!

If one is for abortion, to me that proves the lack of respect for life, and if that person has such little regard for life, I certainly do NOT want him/her as President. To me, the whole issue of abortion tells me the character and integrity of that person. Pro-abortion - I have no regard for that person.

Oh, Fanta, you read the e-mail totally wrong. It is my former boss who is voting for McCain for the pro-life issue! THINK ABOUT IT FANTA, that is a man who defends people for a living!

You are totally oblivious to the people who value LIFE, family life, moral values. MAJOR ISSUE, whether you want to face up to it or not. obama will not get any Bible Belt states, nor the evangelical christians, or the people for down to earth family values.

What you like and what the rest of America feels are totally different. You have blinders on.

Lindyy
:smile:
I am not an Obama supporter but honestly I think YOU are the one with "blinder's on". Do you believe in creationism still also? I'm pro-choice and I'm thinking about my 16 year old sister and what would happen if she got raped and became pregnant...Should she be FORCED to have that baby?

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Wed 06/25/08 01:06 PM





Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.



I wanted Hillary. Now I am voting for Obama.



Most Hillary supporters are winx.
The largest group of voters Obama needs to worry about are the Independents. If he picks Hillary as VP most of us will leave him!

Lindy,
Dont you know that a President does not have the ability to reverse the Abortion laws? If thats why you are voting Republican, I hate to tell you, its a false hope! Its not going to happen!




Sorry, Charlie, but it is the president who nominates the Supreme Court judges. And they are the ones who decide on lawsuits on issues appealed to them i.e. Roe v. Wade. Bush got partial birth abortion banned and I PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THAT, I WOULD RATHER BE DEAD DAMNED AND ROTTING IN ABSOLUTE HELL than vote for anyone who is NOT PRO LIFE!

If one is for abortion, to me that proves the lack of respect for life, and if that person has such little regard for life, I certainly do NOT want him/her as President. To me, the whole issue of abortion tells me the character and integrity of that person. Pro-abortion - I have no regard for that person.

Oh, Fanta, you read the e-mail totally wrong. It is my former boss who is voting for McCain for the pro-life issue! THINK ABOUT IT FANTA, that is a man who defends people for a living!

You are totally oblivious to the people who value LIFE, family life, moral values. MAJOR ISSUE, whether you want to face up to it or not. obama will not get any Bible Belt states, nor the evangelical christians, or the people for down to earth family values.

What you like and what the rest of America feels are totally different. You have blinders on.

Lindyy
:smile:
I am not an Obama supporter but honestly I think YOU are the one with "blinder's on". Do you believe in creationism still also? I'm pro-choice and I'm thinking about my 16 year old sister and what would happen if she got raped and became pregnant...Should she be FORCED to have that baby?


I'm pro-life, but do not judge anyone who's forced to have an abortion.

I think those who are pro-life should be the ones who want to end this bloody war, if they really value the sanctity of life.

If you really value life, then you value it in ALL of it's forms, not just the life in the womb!

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Wed 06/25/08 01:11 PM

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Wed 06/25/08 01:35 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Wed 06/25/08 01:36 PM






Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.



I wanted Hillary. Now I am voting for Obama.



Most Hillary supporters are winx.
The largest group of voters Obama needs to worry about are the Independents. If he picks Hillary as VP most of us will leave him!

Lindy,
Dont you know that a President does not have the ability to reverse the Abortion laws? If thats why you are voting Republican, I hate to tell you, its a false hope! Its not going to happen!




Sorry, Charlie, but it is the president who nominates the Supreme Court judges. And they are the ones who decide on lawsuits on issues appealed to them i.e. Roe v. Wade. Bush got partial birth abortion banned and I PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THAT, I WOULD RATHER BE DEAD DAMNED AND ROTTING IN ABSOLUTE HELL than vote for anyone who is NOT PRO LIFE!

If one is for abortion, to me that proves the lack of respect for life, and if that person has such little regard for life, I certainly do NOT want him/her as President. To me, the whole issue of abortion tells me the character and integrity of that person. Pro-abortion - I have no regard for that person.

Oh, Fanta, you read the e-mail totally wrong. It is my former boss who is voting for McCain for the pro-life issue! THINK ABOUT IT FANTA, that is a man who defends people for a living!

You are totally oblivious to the people who value LIFE, family life, moral values. MAJOR ISSUE, whether you want to face up to it or not. obama will not get any Bible Belt states, nor the evangelical christians, or the people for down to earth family values.

What you like and what the rest of America feels are totally different. You have blinders on.

Lindyy
:smile:
I am not an Obama supporter but honestly I think YOU are the one with "blinder's on". Do you believe in creationism still also? I'm pro-choice and I'm thinking about my 16 year old sister and what would happen if she got raped and became pregnant...Should she be FORCED to have that baby?


I'm pro-life, but do not judge anyone who's forced to have an abortion.

I think those who are pro-life should be the ones who want to end this bloody war, if they really value the sanctity of life.

If you really value life, then you value it in ALL of it's forms, not just the life in the womb!


I disagree...the Bible says that DEATH is REQUIRED for the shedding of innocent blood.

I value life in the womb but not life for murderers & people who kill & rape. I think the death penalty would do more to people's SELF control than all the abortions in the world. That is of course, with a society that isn't wimpy about it.

That's what criminal law is all about... that is before libs DE criminalized many criminal behaviors. One of them being abortion.... Just sayin'

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Wed 06/25/08 01:45 PM







Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.



I wanted Hillary. Now I am voting for Obama.



Most Hillary supporters are winx.
The largest group of voters Obama needs to worry about are the Independents. If he picks Hillary as VP most of us will leave him!

Lindy,
Dont you know that a President does not have the ability to reverse the Abortion laws? If thats why you are voting Republican, I hate to tell you, its a false hope! Its not going to happen!




Sorry, Charlie, but it is the president who nominates the Supreme Court judges. And they are the ones who decide on lawsuits on issues appealed to them i.e. Roe v. Wade. Bush got partial birth abortion banned and I PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THAT, I WOULD RATHER BE DEAD DAMNED AND ROTTING IN ABSOLUTE HELL than vote for anyone who is NOT PRO LIFE!

If one is for abortion, to me that proves the lack of respect for life, and if that person has such little regard for life, I certainly do NOT want him/her as President. To me, the whole issue of abortion tells me the character and integrity of that person. Pro-abortion - I have no regard for that person.

Oh, Fanta, you read the e-mail totally wrong. It is my former boss who is voting for McCain for the pro-life issue! THINK ABOUT IT FANTA, that is a man who defends people for a living!

You are totally oblivious to the people who value LIFE, family life, moral values. MAJOR ISSUE, whether you want to face up to it or not. obama will not get any Bible Belt states, nor the evangelical christians, or the people for down to earth family values.

What you like and what the rest of America feels are totally different. You have blinders on.

Lindyy
:smile:
I am not an Obama supporter but honestly I think YOU are the one with "blinder's on". Do you believe in creationism still also? I'm pro-choice and I'm thinking about my 16 year old sister and what would happen if she got raped and became pregnant...Should she be FORCED to have that baby?


I'm pro-life, but do not judge anyone who's forced to have an abortion.

I think those who are pro-life should be the ones who want to end this bloody war, if they really value the sanctity of life.

If you really value life, then you value it in ALL of it's forms, not just the life in the womb!


I disagree...the Bible says that DEATH is REQUIRED for the shedding of innocent blood.

I value life in the womb but not life for murderers & people who kill & rape. I think the death penalty would do more to people's SELF control than all the abortions in the world. That is of course, with a society that isn't wimpy about it.

That's what criminal law is all about... that is before libs DE criminalized many criminal behaviors. One of them being abortion.... Just sayin'


What did the Democrats have to do with Roe vs Wade??

The Supreme Court argued that case!

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Wed 06/25/08 01:50 PM
Richard Nixon was President when the case was decided!

Fanta46's photo
Wed 06/25/08 01:57 PM
Since that time there have been two Democatic Presidents, occupying the office for a total of 12 yrs.

5 Republicans-23 years!
And it still stands!!

Fanta46's photo
Wed 06/25/08 02:03 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Wed 06/25/08 02:05 PM
That is kinda pitiful considering that the Christian Right has thrown their votes behind Republicans for that reason alone for all these years!
Despite the fact that ever since it was legalized the majority of Americans have supported a woman's right to chose and the Republican Presidents have had Zero power to reverse the decision!

Intrepid00's photo
Wed 06/25/08 02:33 PM







Now i am a moderately liberal person, i was a firm supporter of hillary, and i call myself a democrat however when comparing the two obama .. can i just say is a first year senator, hes done nothing to prove himself to america, he has never been in the military , and he is half black, obama has the ability to speak, and he has his race on his side; I was just wondering how many of you if you are a clinton supporter will be switching your vote to mccain or if you will go with obama. In addition, i believe he plays his race card to his advantage by trying to outsource to african americans and claiming his ethnicity to be black when it best suits him.



I wanted Hillary. Now I am voting for Obama.



Most Hillary supporters are winx.
The largest group of voters Obama needs to worry about are the Independents. If he picks Hillary as VP most of us will leave him!

Lindy,
Dont you know that a President does not have the ability to reverse the Abortion laws? If thats why you are voting Republican, I hate to tell you, its a false hope! Its not going to happen!




Sorry, Charlie, but it is the president who nominates the Supreme Court judges. And they are the ones who decide on lawsuits on issues appealed to them i.e. Roe v. Wade. Bush got partial birth abortion banned and I PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY FOR THAT, I WOULD RATHER BE DEAD DAMNED AND ROTTING IN ABSOLUTE HELL than vote for anyone who is NOT PRO LIFE!

If one is for abortion, to me that proves the lack of respect for life, and if that person has such little regard for life, I certainly do NOT want him/her as President. To me, the whole issue of abortion tells me the character and integrity of that person. Pro-abortion - I have no regard for that person.

Oh, Fanta, you read the e-mail totally wrong. It is my former boss who is voting for McCain for the pro-life issue! THINK ABOUT IT FANTA, that is a man who defends people for a living!

You are totally oblivious to the people who value LIFE, family life, moral values. MAJOR ISSUE, whether you want to face up to it or not. obama will not get any Bible Belt states, nor the evangelical christians, or the people for down to earth family values.

What you like and what the rest of America feels are totally different. You have blinders on.

Lindyy
:smile:
I am not an Obama supporter but honestly I think YOU are the one with "blinder's on". Do you believe in creationism still also? I'm pro-choice and I'm thinking about my 16 year old sister and what would happen if she got raped and became pregnant...Should she be FORCED to have that baby?


I'm pro-life, but do not judge anyone who's forced to have an abortion.

I think those who are pro-life should be the ones who want to end this bloody war, if they really value the sanctity of life.

If you really value life, then you value it in ALL of it's forms, not just the life in the womb!


I disagree...the Bible says that DEATH is REQUIRED for the shedding of innocent blood.

I value life in the womb but not life for murderers & people who kill & rape. I think the death penalty would do more to people's SELF control than all the abortions in the world. That is of course, with a society that isn't wimpy about it.

That's what criminal law is all about... that is before libs DE criminalized many criminal behaviors. One of them being abortion.... Just sayin'
The Bible? haha The Bible is a joke. It was written nearly a hundred years after Jesus was crucified. At the Council of Nicea in 319C.E. (300 years after his death) the Roman Emperor Constantine "decided" to make Jesus a devine being instead of just a man, which for the most part until then people saw him as JUST A MAN. Then, the King James Bible? That we all have today? Was altered and changed by monks in the Middle Ages to make Jesus look devine. There were over 80 original Gospels...why are there now only 4? Jesus was married to Mary Magdeline with children and had a brother James...I can go on and on, my point is I don't believe A WORD the "Bible" says. That said, I agree that no punishment is too rigid for a cold blooded rapist/murderer especially when it comes to taking innocent lives of children and young women just because they wanted perverted sex but I also think taking one life wont bring another one back. I don't know it's a tough call on capital punishment but I agree that pro-life people should be the most vocal about ending this war.