God said there'd be days like this...

When right is wrong & wrong is right...

Crazy counterculturists who hate anything that's good.

It's pathetic...

Which god?

Who did he say it to?

Which wrong? Who's wrong?

Which counterculturists?

And counter what?

BRAVO!!!!!!!!

Some people believe that asking questions with obvious answers make them look intelligent. It's actually quite the opposite.

I was referring to the original post.

Making the devil out to be God is ridiculous.

What vain imaginations some people have.

Counterculturist per M-W.com
: a culture with values and mores that run counter to those of established society

Established society if defined by the one in power would be the American culture which is defined by the U.S. constitution, Bill of Rights, and Amendments to the constitution.

now if the Culture in question is trying to discuss religion respectfully and trolls continuously pipe into forum threads to insult or dispute thoughts without actually offering any input that would make them counterculturists.

I'm happy that you have learned to use large words. Using them effectively and appropriately would of course be more prudent.

Per your use of the word your entry, and spiders would be considered those expressing countercultural behavior in the fact that they attempt to insult or deflame without offering substance.

I must really have gotten under your skin, you can't stop talking about me.

Actually, the truth is I only respond to the two of you in hopes that you might actually wake up some day.

That said I think you are both fakes, and probably out just to make Christians look bad. If I were a Christian reading your entries I would be demanding your account be deleted for slander since obviously neither one of you is Christian.

I guess you guys really do have talking points...Those are the old talking points, you might want to request the new ones.

They do, don't they????

blackbird.

I see this didn't get anywhere.

The God of this world is just that.

Lifeforce attempts to articulate that which is very much content with a democratization of "free will" and "liberty" to act out by any means.


It is lust enjoined.

The "feeding frenzy" is akin to covetousness.
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Sometimes, mayhem.

Sometimes, controlled aggression.

Sometimes, manipulation.

But always, deceptive.

The God of this world never shares power.

The God of this world only delivers the goods that one takes.

In the end, nothing changes ; the God of this world is still in power, and the powerful of this world only borrow that which is not their own for a season.

Where is the righteousness of love and compassion and outbound sympathy in that?

Oh, it's real alright.

And in this world, man is engaged in a spiritual warfare.

But being engaged and enjoined are two different things.

Where I can agree with your assessment is in the prevalence of that which is not Christian.

Truly, Christians are in the minority.

But, Christians have been apprehended to battle spiritually over the souls of men.

That in and of itself places Christians in the heat of things, doesn't it?

It also stands to reason that the God of this world is apt to battle the Church of Jesus Christ as the only front threatening the lust and covetousness of the God of this world with an end, or a weakening, if you will.

Nowhere else is there evidence of a spiritual warfare except in the Church of Jesus Christ, and to the degree with which makes it abundantly clear to the world that there are problems and trials and strife and contentions and issues unparalleled and uniquely troubling for so many that view the Church as incredibly hypocritical and arrogant in the light of the divisiveness displayed in full view world wide.

Many delight in this display. lustfully so.

Many more encourage it.

I would think that people would question that very struggle as one faced by everyone in their daily lives, but it escapes the judgement.

But then, I switched sides, not knowing that at the time. I had no idea of how severe the spiritual warfare is in fact, except that I have overcome this world and it's God.

The "devil", or "lucifer" or "satan", if you will, does not see things quite the way you do.

He sees things quite the way I have come to.

That his time is short and getting shorter.

He is losing his grip.

Has he gripped you, or does he even bother to let you know that he has?

He doesn't share power at all.

He cannot afford to.

He is dying and has nowhere to go in the end.

He is being tortured daily by his own devices.

The world doesn't recognize this.

deceit.

So far as the rest of what you said some of it I agree with, and some I do not.

Maybe you are right, but I was under the impression that there are three or so religions that wage war over spiritual matters. Wars of the physical, and cultural domination.

BB

practically, yes.

Think about it, though.

It is the democratization and consensus of opinion that furthers such wars, which are not really spiritual warfares at their core.

They are driven by lust and covetousness.

Overcoming such conflicts as those waged over physical and cultural domination requires different weapons; weapons which do not employ the same force.

Spiritual warfare over the souls of men is one engaged in on a personal and individual basis and is one that divides the soul from the spirit that the spirit may be discerned, and not be left deceived.

There is a tremendous difference between these warfares.

Spiritual warfare doesn't appear to be warfare at all when witnessed.

and in spiritual warfare, death and destruction are they which are spoiled.

" The souls of men are not our enemy, but the spirit which deceives the soul is ; those that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength."

Wouldee,

When you refer to "the god of this world" are you referring to Satan or Lucifer?

If so, what happened to the idea of there only being one god?

JB

There is a True "GOD" in Heaven

And a False "GOD" on the Earth

Bingo!!!!

For me, to worship source is simply to have gratitude. Gratitude can put you in touch with source whether you are a Christian or even an Atheist ~~or what ever.

Gratitude is an attitude that will attract good into your life.

That to me is worship. It is a feeling of thankfulness and love.

JB

Actually Scinn I do notice that although you had two entries disputing you, both ignored the question which is valid. If we are not one of them, we are the enemy, and should not be suffered to live!

JB,

There is only one creator, but many gods, which is screwy when said in English

That old word, elohym meant 'guidong light'. But in English, there is no word suitable to say that. The Saoxnss used the wrod god which meant good, but that doiesn't suffice toi translate the Hebrew texts well enough.

a good example of what I mean is the Spanish language. There are three words for love.

Two of them, I can remember off hand. One is amour and the other is eros. There is a third.

it's peculiar too, because the romantic languages do not have a large vocabulary like English, and yet they have three words for love.

no wut i meen?

anyway, yes, Lucifer, ( Satan) is the the "God of this world".

But that word for god is elhiym, which can also be translated as angels. It is a plural derivative of the singular noun, 'el'.

There is a third word found predominant in the book of Job as well. It is 'eloah'. All three words are used in the book of Job, but in English, there is only the word God.

It would be hard to understand that book as translated, but it makes much more spiritual sense when identifying those three distinctions while reading it. Just another example.


and yes, I am being conclusory.

BB knows where I am coming from.

peace, out.

EXCELLANT! God also doesn't force Himself on anyone but what He DOES DO is invite people to join Him.