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Topic: Jesus was socialist!
Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:05 PM
Rejection of Capitalism!

Matthew 6:24
No one can be the slave of two masters, he will either hate the first and love the second, or be attach to the first and despise the second, You cannot be the slave both God and of money.

Matthew 19:16 19:21
And now a man came to him and asked 'Master, what good deed must I do to possess eternal life?"....Jesus said, If you wish to be perfect go and sell your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come and follow me.

Matthew 19:23
Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'In truth I tell you it is hard for someone rich to enter tke kingdom of Heaven. Yes I tell you again, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle than for someone rich to enter the kingdom of Heaven.

Mark 12:13-17
Next they sent to him some Pharisees adn some Herodians to catch him out in what he said. These came and said to him, "Master we know that you are an honest man, that you are not afraid of anyone, because human rank means nothing to you, and that you teach the way of God in all honesty. Is it permissible to pay taxes to Caesar or not? Should we pay or not?" Recognising their hypocrispy he said to them, 'Why are you putting me to the test? Hand me a denarius and let me see it. They handed him one and he said to them, 'Whose portrait is this? Whose title? They said to him "Caesar's" Jesus said to them 'Pay Caesar what belong to Caesar- and God what belongs to God' And they were mazed at him.

Luke 16:14-15
The Pharisees, who loved money, heard al this and jeered at him. He said to them 'You are the very ones you pass yourselves off as upright in people's sight, but God knows you hearts. For what is highly esteemed in human eyes is loathsome in the sight of God.



Contribution of the poor greater than the rich!

Mark 12:41-44
He sat down opposite the treasury and watched the people putting money into the treasury, and many of the rich put in a great deal. A poor widow came and put in two small coins, the equivalent of a penny. Then he called his disciples and said to them, 'In truth I tell you this poor widow has put more in than all who have contributed to the treasury, for they have put in money they could spare, but she in her poverty has put in everything she possessed, and all she had to live on.




Jesus teaches social equality! Supports labour!

Matthew 20:1-16
Now the kingdom of Heaven is like a landowner going out at daybreak to hire workers for his vineyard. He made an agreement with the workers for one denarius a day and sent them to his vineyard.... Then at about the eleventh hour he went out and found more men standing around, he said to them, "Why have you been standing here idle all day?" Because no one has hired us" they answered. He said to them You go to my vineyard too" In the evening the owner of the vineyard said to his bailiff, "Call the workers and pay them their wages, starting with the last arrivals and ending with the first." So those who were hired at about the eleventh hour came forward and received one denarius each. When the first came they expected to get more, but they too received one denarius each. They took it but grumble at the landowner saying "The men who came last have done only one hour, and you treat them the same as us, though we have have done a heavy day's work in all the heat. He answers one of them "My friend, I am not being unjust to you; did we not agree on one denarius? Take your earnings and go. I choose to pay the lastcomer as much as you. Have I no right to do what I like with my own? Why should you be envious because I I am generous?" Thus the last will be first and the first shall be last.'



TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:07 PM
very true, i like that view.
communist messed it up when they become atheists, but that is a different argument.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:07 PM
flowerforyou He probably was flowerforyou Bless his nameflowerforyou

baroosie's photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:07 PM
DO YOU REALIZE HEAVEN IS A COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP?!

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:11 PM

DO YOU REALIZE HEAVEN IS A COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP?!

was that comment directed to me?

no photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:14 PM
jesus will not, and does not fit into boxes made of politics, media, professional etc. made by man. he is what he is - god of the universe and man.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 06/13/08 04:15 PM

jesus will not, and does not fit into boxes made of politics, media, professional etc. made by man. he is what he is - god of the universe and man.

also true.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 06/13/08 05:03 PM


jesus will not, and does not fit into boxes made of politics, media, professional etc. made by man. he is what he is - god of the universe and man.

also true.
flowerforyou

baroosie's photo
Fri 06/13/08 05:21 PM


DO YOU REALIZE HEAVEN IS A COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP?!

was that comment directed to me?
I WROTE THAT BEFORE I SAW YOUR COMMENT

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 06/13/08 09:51 PM
This is more warped thinking by those who hate God.

Sick....

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Fri 06/13/08 09:55 PM
Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Fri 06/13/08 09:55 PM
He was a socialist, a radical, a free thinker who taught that love was the answer! I wished christians today believed as he taught and this world would be a better place

adj4u's photo
Fri 06/13/08 09:56 PM
maybe just maybe

the first hippie

just a thought

adj4u's photo
Sat 06/14/08 12:32 AM
killed another one

flowerforyou

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 06/14/08 12:56 AM

This is more warped thinking by those who hate God.

Sick....


I don't understand why you would say this.

Clearly Jesus would not support captialism.

I don't think there's any question about that.

Socialism is actually a good thing I think.

I don't see how this would be putting down Jesus.

It's putting down captialism. flowerforyou

Abracadabra's photo
Sat 06/14/08 01:02 AM

He was a socialist, a radical, a free thinker who taught that love was the answer! I wished christians today believed as he taught and this world would be a better place


I agree.

If Christians would stop rooting around in the Old Testament looking for reasons to be judging others, and instead if they actually followed what Jesus taught, the world would be a wonderful place.

This is the problem with Christianity as a religion. For some really weird reason far too many Christians actually spit in Jesus face the whole time they are proselytizing Christianity.

It's pity really. They could have had a really wonderful religion had they simply followed what Jesus actually taught.

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/15/08 06:47 AM


He was a socialist, a radical, a free thinker who taught that love was the answer! I wished christians today believed as he taught and this world would be a better place


I agree.

If Christians would stop rooting around in the Old Testament looking for reasons to be judging others, and instead if they actually followed what Jesus taught, the world would be a wonderful place.

This is the problem with Christianity as a religion. For some really weird reason far too many Christians actually spit in Jesus face the whole time they are proselytizing Christianity.

It's pity really. They could have had a really wonderful religion had they simply followed what Jesus actually taught.


What? According to your feel good no accountability version of what God's word says? We do follow the ways of love...

There is nothing hateful about warning people of danger. That is exactly what you object to & call hate. That's your man made version of God's love & provisions. You hate God all you want but you are missing out on wonderful blessing because of your small minded thinking. God did say His ways are not our ways. His are much HIGHER.

Here's a thought for you.... the Lord's prayer is this...

Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done
on EARTH as it is in HEAVEN

Why do you think this is in there?



wouldee's photo
Sun 06/15/08 08:12 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 06/15/08 08:24 AM
There is something to be said for the Garden of Eden being in lock down.:wink: laugh

Approxiamately 2748 years ago, this description of God suggested what we could expect to come to pass.

Even the captains of industry and the academians are in His treasury of means to grace one and all with by means of provision and sustenance through proxy and delegated responsibility.:wink:

Isaiah 9:6-7.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given :
and the government shall be upon his shoulder :
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The everlasting father, The Prince of Peace.

Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom , to order it, and to establish it with judgement and with justice from henceforth even forever.
The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this


flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile





ps


Psalms 4:6-8.

There be many that say, Who will shew us any good?
LORD, lift up the light of thy countenance upon us.

Thou hast put gladness in my heart, more than in the time that their corn and their wine increased.

I will both lay me down in peace and sleep :

for thou, LORD, only makest me to dwell in safety.

Belushi's photo
Sun 06/15/08 09:35 AM
Edited by Belushi on Sun 06/15/08 09:35 AM
He could actually be a communist ... :smile:

He wants everyone to have the same and to be equal. (although there will be some more equal than others)

The feeding of the 5000 for example.


Abracadabra's photo
Sun 06/15/08 09:55 AM
God did say His ways are not our ways. His are much HIGHER.


God didn't say that. The bible said that.

Christianity has God rejecting everyone who doesn't believe in the bible.

They try to turn that around and claim that everyone who doesns't believe in the bible is rejecting God.

But that can't be.

We can't have a supposely just God casting people into hell because they don't believe in a stupid book. And yes! It is a stupid book by it very own admission.

It states right in the book that non-believers will perceive the book to appear as nonsense (i.e. nonsense = stupid).

So it's basically claiming that God will reject everyone who doesn't accept nonsense to be his word.

That's nothing short of crazy. Such a God would be a lunatic and far from being just.

Disbelief in the Bible does not equate to rejecting God.

On the one hand the bible is claiming that God is so wise. But on the other hand the bible is claiming that God is so stupid that he can't even realize that nonbelievers would not be rejecting him.

It's utterly absurd to claim that people who disbelieve in the bible are rejecting God.

I think the bible is the most aburd book ever written by mankind. And I assure you that I am not rejecting God.

I simply don't believe that the creator of this universe could be as stupid as that book makes him out to be.

That's not the same as rejecting God.

We can't have a God rejecting people for not believing in a book, and then claiming that those people are rejecting him.

Claiming that Gods ways are HIGHER doesn't wash.

That doesn't justify a stupid God.

Any God who plays hide & seek and rejects people for not believing in a book that appears to be stupid to them cannot possibly be an intelligent God.

yashafox_F4X1's photo
Sun 06/15/08 10:13 AM
Jesus was a republican. He told his disciples to let down the net on the Right side of the boat.

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