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Topic: What it truly means to be Free!
markecephus Joined Sun 10/07/07 Posts: 13831	Sun 06/15/08 06:30 PM
Hi folks, lets please keep this discussion on a civil level. i know these things get heated, but lets please not attack each other for their opinions. We are receiving abuse reports on this thread and may remove it. Please help us avoid that, Thanks guys, Mark

Belushi Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 2995	Mon 06/16/08 06:49 AM Edited by Belushi on Mon 06/16/08 06:50 AM
What about brutal U.S.A. ?. NEVER knew the USA was brutal. How about this brutality? Brutal US attack on unarmed Afghans captured by photos - By Tom Coghlan in Kabul Tuesday, 8 August 2006 Independant Newspaper or this ... " A Brutal U.S. Torture Center The U.S. is holding 630 prisoners—more than twice the number being held at Guantánamo—at the Bagram Air Force Base, north of Kabul in Afghanistan. The prisoners are crammed into wire cages, forced to sleep on the floor on foam mats and, until about a year ago, to use plastic buckets for latrines. Some have been detained for up to five years. They have never been charged with crimes. They have no access to lawyers. They are barred from even hearing the allegations against them." - New York Times article (“Prison Expands in Afghanistan,” 1/7/2008) or even this? Confessions from U.S. Soldiers in Iraq on the Brutal Treatment of Civilians By Chris Hedges and Laila Al-Arian, The Nation. Posted July 13, 2007. Interviews with 50 Iraq war veterans reveal disturbing patterns of behavior by US troops in Iraq against innocent civilians -- brutal acts that often go unreported and almost always go unpunished. War is ugly. These wars are illegal too. What kind of bread would you like to go with your Baloney? Lindyy So, what is it of the above that you think is baloney, considering Americans wrote two of the three articles?

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 06/16/08 07:36 AM
anyone that gives any govt full approval is being deluded any and every govt has those in it that commit atrocities towards others to think any govt is perfect is just crazy

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Mon 06/16/08 07:49 AM
anyone that gives any govt full approval is being deluded any and every govt has those in it that commit atrocities towards others to think any govt is perfect is just crazy Robin

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Mon 06/16/08 07:57 AM
anyone that gives any govt full approval is being deluded any and every govt has those in it that commit atrocities towards others to think any govt is perfect is just crazy Robin

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Mon 06/16/08 08:30 AM
A society where anything and everything goes is not my idea of freedom!! Thank You very much! 'Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose.' Me & Bobby McGee Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster Sung by Janis Joplin Look where freedom got Janis Joplin DOA - because she had 'freedom' to OD on her addiction. Kris Kristofferson co-wrote the song and he is very much alive.

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Mon 06/16/08 09:13 AM
A society where anything and everything goes is not my idea of freedom!! Thank You very much! 'Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose.' Me & Bobby McGee Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster Sung by Janis Joplin Look where freedom got Janis Joplin DOA - because she had 'freedom' to OD on her addiction. Kris Kristofferson co-wrote the song and he is very much alive. On that note: Free Will by Rush http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYzGMxGq9rM