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mnhiker
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When we let Love rule all our hearts
Have you not heard the saying "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships"? lol Love ruling all our hearts would ruin us all. It clouds sensibilities, love makes people act rashly without thinking. Freedom is when unbridled thought rules the destiny of man. That is an original quote by me, I want credit as it is due! :D ![]() ![]() I don't think I want 'unbridled thought' ruling the 'destiny of man', especially when that 'unbridled thought' is an evil one. This would lead to loss of freedom. So, you think we should limit the freedom of SOME unbridled thought, because it MIGHT be an evil one? Interesting...and not in the good way. The power of the heart will much more often lead to rash decisions of emotion rather than the more likely conclusions of a thought process driven by the mind. Mind will always trump heart, however the heart and mind can always work together to best fulfill and satisfy the freedoms and needs of all in an organized and detailed process. Well, let's say, for example, someone like Adolph Hitler writes a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Let's also say he takes the ideas from that book of unbridled thoughts and tries to, say, take over a country with them, impose his will with an iron fist and order the genocide of millions. Shouldn't unbridled thoughts such as these be resisted? |
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When we let Love rule all our hearts
Have you not heard the saying "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships"? lol Love ruling all our hearts would ruin us all. It clouds sensibilities, love makes people act rashly without thinking. Freedom is when unbridled thought rules the destiny of man. That is an original quote by me, I want credit as it is due! :D ![]() ![]() I don't think I want 'unbridled thought' ruling the 'destiny of man', especially when that 'unbridled thought' is an evil one. This would lead to loss of freedom. So, you think we should limit the freedom of SOME unbridled thought, because it MIGHT be an evil one? Interesting...and not in the good way. The power of the heart will much more often lead to rash decisions of emotion rather than the more likely conclusions of a thought process driven by the mind. Mind will always trump heart, however the heart and mind can always work together to best fulfill and satisfy the freedoms and needs of all in an organized and detailed process. Well, let's say, for example, someone like Adolph Hitler writes a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Let's also say he takes the ideas from that book of unbridled thoughts and tries to, say, take over a country with them, impose his will with an iron fist and order the genocide of millions. Shouldn't unbridled thoughts such as these be resisted? Of course, but your intentions were to say that all thought is not legitimate to come to fruition and be able to be understood on a global stage of humankind. We must always take the good, bad, and all thoughts inbetween. No thought, however evil that it may be, should be restricted from being known by controlling forces that you are seeking to impose. The destiny of man is to be as good and as evil as they can be, with everything inbetween put somewhere onto that scale as well. To restrict it, the unbridled thought, is to restrict freedom. |
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And, believing that such thought can be resisted from being known, the idea to confront it pre its dispersal, is to lead to much greater restrictions of freedom by some unknown controlling being or group who is to say what is "good" and what is "bad".
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What are your thoughts, Fanta? Such convoluted Machiavellian logic. |
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I think freedom has its limits!
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In order to have perfect freedom someone needs to get started on creating some perfectly cloned think alike people!
Call me when that happens.............. and Im glad my DNA was of help! ![]() |
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In order to have perfect freedom someone needs to get started on creating some perfectly cloned think alike people! Call me when that happens.............. and Im glad my DNA was of help! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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These converstations are a perfect example of what american needs!! We have a great deal of difference in what we feel and how we CHOOSE to live our lives but yet there is no form of HATERED here. We can express our own beliefs without fear of persicution and we,as free thinking people, are open enough to listin to one another, thats unbridled freedom at its best
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I've always had freedom....freedom of choice.
it's waking up the 9 /10 's of society globally to realise the same, that is the challenge. We have always had freedom, it's allowing others to remove it, that the sense of powerlessness and victim comes into play. Humans made borders and boundaries in an attempt to seperate, we are not seperate, our common humanness wont allow it. Everything, and everyone is interconnected. That is true freedom... knowing that, and being mindful of that. |
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These converstations are a perfect example of what american needs!! We have a great deal of difference in what we feel and how we CHOOSE to live our lives but yet there is no form of HATERED here. We can express our own beliefs without fear of persicution and we,as free thinking people, are open enough to listin to one another, thats unbridled freedom at its best You called me a barbarian and are using my own words with the unbridled freedom line! lol |
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Im sorry sailor but i have to give credit to Dr. King for that 1 lol
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When we let Love rule all our hearts
Have you not heard the saying "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships"? lol Love ruling all our hearts would ruin us all. It clouds sensibilities, love makes people act rashly without thinking. Freedom is when unbridled thought rules the destiny of man. That is an original quote by me, I want credit as it is due! :D ![]() ![]() I don't think I want 'unbridled thought' ruling the 'destiny of man', especially when that 'unbridled thought' is an evil one. This would lead to loss of freedom. So, you think we should limit the freedom of SOME unbridled thought, because it MIGHT be an evil one? Interesting...and not in the good way. The power of the heart will much more often lead to rash decisions of emotion rather than the more likely conclusions of a thought process driven by the mind. Mind will always trump heart, however the heart and mind can always work together to best fulfill and satisfy the freedoms and needs of all in an organized and detailed process. Well, let's say, for example, someone like Adolph Hitler writes a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Let's also say he takes the ideas from that book of unbridled thoughts and tries to, say, take over a country with them, impose his will with an iron fist and order the genocide of millions. Shouldn't unbridled thoughts such as these be resisted? There that Hilter argument poping up again. |
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Edited by
mnhiker
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Fri 06/13/08 02:24 PM
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When we let Love rule all our hearts
Have you not heard the saying "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships"? lol Love ruling all our hearts would ruin us all. It clouds sensibilities, love makes people act rashly without thinking. Freedom is when unbridled thought rules the destiny of man. That is an original quote by me, I want credit as it is due! :D ![]() ![]() I don't think I want 'unbridled thought' ruling the 'destiny of man', especially when that 'unbridled thought' is an evil one. This would lead to loss of freedom. So, you think we should limit the freedom of SOME unbridled thought, because it MIGHT be an evil one? Interesting...and not in the good way. The power of the heart will much more often lead to rash decisions of emotion rather than the more likely conclusions of a thought process driven by the mind. Mind will always trump heart, however the heart and mind can always work together to best fulfill and satisfy the freedoms and needs of all in an organized and detailed process. Well, let's say, for example, someone like Adolph Hitler writes a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Let's also say he takes the ideas from that book of unbridled thoughts and tries to, say, take over a country with them, impose his will with an iron fist and order the genocide of millions. Shouldn't unbridled thoughts such as these be resisted? There that Hilter argument poping up again. Hitler is just one example. Would you have preferred I use Ghenghis Khan? OK, Ghengis Khan had this 'unbridled thought' of taking over the world as they knew it at the time. It didn't lead to more freedom, except for Ghenghis Khan and his tribe to do whatever they pleased. Instead, it leads to thousands being killed or enslaved. |
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When we let Love rule all our hearts
Have you not heard the saying "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships"? lol Love ruling all our hearts would ruin us all. It clouds sensibilities, love makes people act rashly without thinking. Freedom is when unbridled thought rules the destiny of man. That is an original quote by me, I want credit as it is due! :D ![]() ![]() I don't think I want 'unbridled thought' ruling the 'destiny of man', especially when that 'unbridled thought' is an evil one. This would lead to loss of freedom. So, you think we should limit the freedom of SOME unbridled thought, because it MIGHT be an evil one? Interesting...and not in the good way. The power of the heart will much more often lead to rash decisions of emotion rather than the more likely conclusions of a thought process driven by the mind. Mind will always trump heart, however the heart and mind can always work together to best fulfill and satisfy the freedoms and needs of all in an organized and detailed process. Well, let's say, for example, someone like Adolph Hitler writes a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Let's also say he takes the ideas from that book of unbridled thoughts and tries to, say, take over a country with them, impose his will with an iron fist and order the genocide of millions. Shouldn't unbridled thoughts such as these be resisted? There that Hilter argument poping up again. Hitler is just one example. Would you have preferred I use Ghenghis Khan? OK, Ghengis Khan had this 'unbridled thought' of taking over the world as they knew it at the time. It didn't lead to more freedom, except for Ghenghis Khan and his tribe to do whatever they pleased. Instead, it leads to thousands being killed or enslaved. No, no. The Hitler's argument is ok, starsalior did say he half German. I just put brought it because it a warning that the topic is going off track. |
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Edited by
mnhiker
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Fri 06/13/08 02:39 PM
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When we let Love rule all our hearts
Have you not heard the saying "Was this the face that launched a thousand ships"? lol Love ruling all our hearts would ruin us all. It clouds sensibilities, love makes people act rashly without thinking. Freedom is when unbridled thought rules the destiny of man. That is an original quote by me, I want credit as it is due! :D ![]() ![]() I don't think I want 'unbridled thought' ruling the 'destiny of man', especially when that 'unbridled thought' is an evil one. This would lead to loss of freedom. So, you think we should limit the freedom of SOME unbridled thought, because it MIGHT be an evil one? Interesting...and not in the good way. The power of the heart will much more often lead to rash decisions of emotion rather than the more likely conclusions of a thought process driven by the mind. Mind will always trump heart, however the heart and mind can always work together to best fulfill and satisfy the freedoms and needs of all in an organized and detailed process. Well, let's say, for example, someone like Adolph Hitler writes a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Let's also say he takes the ideas from that book of unbridled thoughts and tries to, say, take over a country with them, impose his will with an iron fist and order the genocide of millions. Shouldn't unbridled thoughts such as these be resisted? There that Hilter argument poping up again. Hitler is just one example. Would you have preferred I use Ghenghis Khan? OK, Ghengis Khan had this 'unbridled thought' of taking over the world as they knew it at the time. It didn't lead to more freedom, except for Ghenghis Khan and his tribe to do whatever they pleased. Instead, it leads to thousands being killed or enslaved. No, no. The Hitler's argument is ok, starsalior did say he half German. I just put brought it because it a warning that the topic is going off track. I'm half German too. Germany is known for other achievements, not just Hitler. Goethe, for example, the great writer and poet. Or Johann Sebastian Bach, the great composer. Besides, Hitler was an Austrian by birth. |
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I think freedom has its limits! ![]() I am thankful that I lived to the day where I saw the American Administration dropping tons of bombs on innocent men , innocent women and innocent children and calling it FREEDOM . ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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I'm half German too. Germany is known for other achievements, not just Hitler. Goethe, for example, the great writer and poet. Or Johann Sebastian Bach, the great composer. Besides, Hitler was an Austrian by birth. Wasn't Morzart German too? How about Beethoven? |
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Ghenghis Khan? Hitler? ...you don't have to go back so far for examples of unbridled evil thought...Look around...Syria, Iran, N. Korea, Burma, Chad, Sudan....Freedom? doesn't exist...if this thread appeared in anyone of these countries, nary a soul would dare to put forth their expression...maybe because they have no concept of freedom.Something we all take for granted....and everytime we defend this high cost "product" those that take it for granted bellow about how unjust it all is...I guess we should just lay down our freedom for marxism or socialism...which seems to be the current trend.
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Ghenghis Khan? Hitler? ...you don't have to go back so far for examples of unbridled evil thought...Look around...Syria, Iran, N. Korea, Burma, Chad, Sudan....Freedom? doesn't exist...if this thread appeared in anyone of these countries, nary a soul would dare to put forth their expression...maybe because they have no concept of freedom.Something we all take for granted....and everytime we defend this high cost "product" those that take it for granted bellow about how unjust it all is...I guess we should just lay down our freedom for marxism or socialism...which seems to be the current trend. Did you know that Jesus was a socialist? Check out that thread. |
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