Topic: mandatory DNA testing
Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:12 AM




Those found guilty of crimes can be profiled any which way the government wants, but for me to volunteer my information will never happen.



But finding those guilty of the would be easily if you had a national DNA database, if you don't find criminal you can profile them.


huh? noway

sorry but dont get the message?



Opps I meant : if you don't find the criminal you CAN'T profile them.

franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:18 AM



Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?


I all honesty I'm disable and the disease is genetic. I grew up not knowing I had a risk factor for it and it set me back. I decided not to have kids. I also I fear that my little nieces might develope it and if one does then we'll catch it early before damage is done.


I am sorry truly but without getting too personal on an open forum, genetics are like a game of dice. The outcome is predestined(jmo).

There is nothing a mandatory DNA testing could have prevented or influenced, as the outcome would be the same.

Truly hope your nieces avoid this genetic disability flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:29 AM
But you could be refused medical or life insurance if insurance companies have access to the data base, or your nieces be refused employment because they may develop the disability! Not because they have it but because they could develop it later.
frown frown

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:31 AM




Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?


I all honesty I'm disable and the disease is genetic. I grew up not knowing I had a risk factor for it and it set me back. I decided not to have kids. I also I fear that my little nieces don't develope it and if one does then we'll catch it early but damage is done.


So are you saying you are a less viable human because you have that condition?

If we start doing this with DNA, the evil that is in power could then decide that people can't have kids because of their DNA, and we will have a Hitleristic society where blonde hair and blue eyes are all that are allowed.

I don't want the government to have anymore of my information than they already have, I pay my taxes, that's all they are getting from me.


Wow you blow things out of proportion I admit to have a genetic disablity and you compare me to Hitler.

Honestly I can't put my child though what I've been though. Doctors running tests, days in the hospital, family and finances in strain. It almost most came to a point death would be be the only way. It would be like a cycle of pain if my child develops the condition.

Anyway I could alway adopt a child instead.


Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:33 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 06/13/08 11:36 AM
Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:49 AM

But you could be refused medical or life insurance if insurance companies have access to the data base, or your nieces be refused employment because they may develop the disability! Not because they have it but because they could develop it later.
frown frown



It's a true many insurances don't cover my meds I and that also makes it difficult for me to have a job, I can't afford so death seems the easily way out of the situation.

Brandon24721's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:51 AM


i think it should be mandatory


my ex g/f ended up preg. and she said it was mine. she was going threw a divorce with a guy in the military (he was in japan) she told me .. we argued a lil bit.. but i was gonna man up and do my job and take care of it. we talked and then she turned her cell phone off and her ex husband ended up moving to arizona and i herd she moved in with him...and i guess she got him to think it is his ( maybe it is? ) lol ... but now it's a lil girl and it's like 2 years old.


but i would just hate for them to everntually get a divorce and if it is my kid.. then i get canned with all this back child support if something brings it up. lol


Jokingly, you wouldn't want to end up on Maury for a paternatey test.





lol.. yeeeea that would def. be my luck!

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:54 AM

Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


If your disable chances are you can't afford a mortgage in the first place.

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:02 PM

Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


What are the chances that you get into a car accident and die at the age of 38. What would a mortgage company do then?

ArtGurl's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:03 PM

Watch the movie Gattaca .....it will open you eyes to dna testing


I was just thinking the exact same thing!

adj4u's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:09 PM


Watch the movie Gattaca .....it will open you eyes to dna testing


I was just thinking the exact same thing!


is that the one where the guy was using the roomates urine to be in the special program (space maybe do not remember specifics but does remind me of the notion)

Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:10 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 06/13/08 12:11 PM


Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


If your disable chances are you can't afford a mortgage in the first place.



HMMmmmm...... Depends on the disability, and at what age the person is when the med problem became active. Maybe the person is to develop Lou Gehrig's disease and was physically active until say 40? Now you have a DNA data bank and you know this person had the disease since birth. Now, instead of living a perfectly normal life, this person is treated differently from day one, just because they showed a 90% chance of developing the disease later.

Now imagine this person falls within the 10% and lives a normal lifespan, never developing the disease.........frown frown

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:13 PM





Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?


I all honesty I'm disable and the disease is genetic. I grew up not knowing I had a risk factor for it and it set me back. I decided not to have kids. I also I fear that my little nieces don't develope it and if one does then we'll catch it early but damage is done.


So are you saying you are a less viable human because you have that condition?

If we start doing this with DNA, the evil that is in power could then decide that people can't have kids because of their DNA, and we will have a Hitleristic society where blonde hair and blue eyes are all that are allowed.

I don't want the government to have anymore of my information than they already have, I pay my taxes, that's all they are getting from me.


Wow you blow things out of proportion I admit to have a genetic disablity and you compare me to Hitler.

Honestly I can't put my child though what I've been though. Doctors running tests, days in the hospital, family and finances in strain. It almost most came to a point death would be be the only way. It would be like a cycle of pain if my child develops the condition.

Anyway I could alway adopt a child instead.




Where did I compair you to Hitler????

I said the powers that be.....

If you chose not to have children, that is YOUR choice, my point was that the government could sterilize people based on thier DNA, hence taking THEIR choice away.However i would like to see the "dumb" have their reproduction card taken away.:wink:

Another good movie about this subject "The Handmaids Tale"

Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:13 PM


Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


What are the chances that you get into a car accident and die at the age of 38. What would a mortgage company do then?


That's an accident.
It couldn't be predicted from DNA...

adj4u's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:15 PM



Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


What are the chances that you get into a car accident and die at the age of 38. What would a mortgage company do then?


That's an accident.
It couldn't be predicted from DNA...


since when did medical records become public domain

dna test would be a medical record

Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:16 PM
Insurance companies would probably pay good money if they could learn how to predict car accidents though!bigsmile

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:17 PM




Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


What are the chances that you get into a car accident and die at the age of 38. What would a mortgage company do then?


That's an accident.
It couldn't be predicted from DNA...


since when did medical records become public domain

dna test would be a medical record


IDK, but ask my car insurance company how they found out, and why they raised my rates based on being diabetic??? If you think your records are private...THINK AGAIN.

adj4u's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:20 PM





Maybe a mortgage company wont sell you a house or charges you a higher interest rate, because they have access to the DNA data base and consider there is a 60% chance you wont live past 45!


What are the chances that you get into a car accident and die at the age of 38. What would a mortgage company do then?


That's an accident.
It couldn't be predicted from DNA...


since when did medical records become public domain

dna test would be a medical record


IDK, but ask my car insurance company how they found out, and why they raised my rates based on being diabetic??? If you think your records are private...THINK AGAIN.


sounds like discrimination what company do i knot want to use

you should call the i-team and get them on the news

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:22 PM


sounds like discrimination what company do i knot want to use

you should call the i-team and get them on the news


It was LaGrange Insurance... and it happened when I was 20 or so. I have State Farm now...bigsmile

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 12:23 PM




Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?


I all honesty I'm disable and the disease is genetic. I grew up not knowing I had a risk factor for it and it set me back. I decided not to have kids. I also I fear that my little nieces might develope it and if one does then we'll catch it early before damage is done.


I am sorry truly but without getting too personal on an open forum, genetics are like a game of dice. The outcome is predestined(jmo).

There is nothing a mandatory DNA testing could have prevented or influenced, as the outcome would be the same.

Truly hope your nieces avoid this genetic disability flowerforyou



Actually there a book call Feed Your Genes Right that suggest that diet and vitamins can turn off or even repair DNA. It's a book that make me want to become a nutritionist.