Topic: mandatory DNA testing
franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 08:50 AM
drinker flowerforyou

Im not willing to give up my personal privacy and individual rights for anyone or anything!

Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 08:55 AM
Besides,
If you could know that you might die at say 35 yrs old. Would you want to know?

I wouldnt...

mnhiker's photo
Fri 06/13/08 09:18 AM
Edited by mnhiker on Fri 06/13/08 09:25 AM

Besides,
If you could know that you might die at say 35 yrs old. Would you want to know?

I wouldnt...


Amen to that brother.

I'm going to a funeral next week of my brother-in-law's
half brother, who was also a good friend of mine at one time.

He was only 35 when he died. sad

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 09:58 AM
Ok I'll play devil's advocate, a DNA is no different from from say finger prints. Suppose a criminal kills someone, is cut in the stuggle and leaves his DNA on the scene. Well with a DNA data base you easliy find out who the murder and quickly form a manhunt. Plus DNA is exonerates innocent people of wrongful accusation in death-row cases. With a DNA evidence you can make sure the that the people on death-row are guilty of the crime in question. This strengthens the case for capital pushishment by eliminating the argument that people can executed but later found innocent after the all.

In other words a DNA data base would be a not only for disease monitoring, and but also for criminal investigation as well.

franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:01 AM
Those found guilty of crimes can be profiled any which way the government wants, but for me to volunteer my information will never happen.

All it takes is someone to either enter the wrong information, misread the information, misinterpret the information and there goes the systemflowerforyou .




Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:10 AM
Ok playing devil advocate again, suppose your wife secret cheats on you and you end up raising someone elses child. A DNA data base can make certain that when you look in to that child's eye you can say "That's my boy!"

franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:22 AM

Ok playing devil advocate again, suppose your wife secret cheats on you and you end up raising someone elses child. A DNA data base can make certain that when you look in to that child's eye you can say "That's my boy!"


If there is any doubt request a paternity test. As it's done now, no need to maintain a mandatory database. jmo

Wife cheating, will never happen to me laugh, as I will never marry a woman flowerforyou

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:42 AM

Those found guilty of crimes can be profiled any which way the government wants, but for me to volunteer my information will never happen.

All it takes is someone to either enter the wrong information, misread the information, misinterpret the information and there goes the systemflowerforyou .






I so wanted to be a part of this discussion, but between Fran and DDN I got nothing to add....but

Who is picking up the economic cost to all of this???

Brandon24721's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:47 AM
i think it should be mandatory


my ex g/f ended up preg. and she said it was mine. she was going threw a divorce with a guy in the military (he was in japan) she told me .. we argued a lil bit.. but i was gonna man up and do my job and take care of it. we talked and then she turned her cell phone off and her ex husband ended up moving to arizona and i herd she moved in with him...and i guess she got him to think it is his ( maybe it is? ) lol ... but now it's a lil girl and it's like 2 years old.


but i would just hate for them to everntually get a divorce and if it is my kid.. then i get canned with all this back child support if something brings it up. lol

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:47 AM
Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:53 AM

i think it should be mandatory


my ex g/f ended up preg. and she said it was mine. she was going threw a divorce with a guy in the military (he was in japan) she told me .. we argued a lil bit.. but i was gonna man up and do my job and take care of it. we talked and then she turned her cell phone off and her ex husband ended up moving to arizona and i herd she moved in with him...and i guess she got him to think it is his ( maybe it is? ) lol ... but now it's a lil girl and it's like 2 years old.


but i would just hate for them to everntually get a divorce and if it is my kid.. then i get canned with all this back child support if something brings it up. lol


Jokingly, you wouldn't want to end up on Maury for a paternatey test.

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:55 AM

Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


Why don't you just live a happy and healthy life to begin with?

franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:56 AM

Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?

franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:56 AM


Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


Why don't you just live a happy and healthy life to begin with?


you see why I :heart: you flowerforyou flowerforyou

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 10:59 AM


Those found guilty of crimes can be profiled any which way the government wants, but for me to volunteer my information will never happen.



But finding those guilty of the would be easily if you had a national DNA database, if you don't find criminal you can profile them.

franshade's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:01 AM
Edited by franshade on Fri 06/13/08 11:02 AM



Those found guilty of crimes can be profiled any which way the government wants, but for me to volunteer my information will never happen.



But finding those guilty of the would be easily if you had a national DNA database, if you don't find criminal you can profile them.


huh? noway

sorry but dont get the message?

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:02 AM
Why don't we inseret computer chips in our heads so if we get lost we can easily be found like a GPS or something?

why don't we tatoo babies at birth that say "Property of..."

Why don't we leave all of our private matters to the government, they do such a great job with the economy.

Do we see where we are going with this?

Fitnessfanatic's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:08 AM
Edited by Fitnessfanatic on Fri 06/13/08 11:10 AM


Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?


I all honesty I'm disable and the disease is genetic. I grew up not knowing I had a risk factor for it and it set me back. I decided not to have kids. I also I fear that my little nieces might develope it and if one does then we'll catch it early before damage is done.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:10 AM

Why don't we inseret computer chips in our heads so if we get lost we can easily be found like a GPS or something?

why don't we tatoo babies at birth that say "Property of..."

Why don't we leave all of our private matters to the government, they do such a great job with the economy.

Do we see where we are going with this?



SHhhhh!!!huh
Dont give them any more ideasnoway noway

Lily0923's photo
Fri 06/13/08 11:11 AM



Ok playing devils advocate again suppose you wanted/ needed to trace your ancestry for medical reasons. You could find risk factors some certain diseases like breast cancer or heart disease. With DNA data base you can trace long gone relatives DNA and find out the chances of developing those dieases and therefore adjust you lifestyle choices for a more happier and healthier and long lasting life.


I live in the present and wish for tomorrow, yesterday is gone and over with. I have no need to adjust my life, I'm pretty comfortable with the way it is now :wink:

question for you FF - what would you like to know of your past that only can be solved thru mandatory DNA testing?


I all honesty I'm disable and the disease is genetic. I grew up not knowing I had a risk factor for it and it set me back. I decided not to have kids. I also I fear that my little nieces don't develope it and if one does then we'll catch it early but damage is done.


So are you saying you are a less viable human because you have that condition?

If we start doing this with DNA, the evil that is in power could then decide that people can't have kids because of their DNA, and we will have a Hitleristic society where blonde hair and blue eyes are all that are allowed.

I don't want the government to have anymore of my information than they already have, I pay my taxes, that's all they are getting from me.