i already know the answer - yours is anything but theological
answer the question

what im stating and have stated is not a strawman - it is fact.we really have no true free will if someone is able to bring us into existance and lead us on a path to do evil.

I answered the question. Rebut my answer or accept it, but I have nothing else to say on the subject if you are simply going to ignore my answer.

It is a strawman argument, because you responded to that as if it was what I was saying. I agree! If God led us to evil we wouldn't have free will, but God doesn't do that.

then your no theologian

god allows evil according to your bible, if he allows evil then he is also capable of using evil to his own advantages. in the case with judas he did just that as in millions of other religo historical incedents. god according to the bible is capable of anything. that includes pre-detination. we dont have in truth nor did judas - free will

When asking Yahshua who committed the greatest sin,Herod or Judas. He answered that Judas did. 2 things we see thier are degrees of sin. Sin is done willingly. Judas took the 30 pieces of silver or was going to when he realized Yahshua really was the son of Yahweh.This is when he went and hanged himself. I do not believe Judas ever believed Yahshua was who he said he was. Thus he may of believed he was doing the people a favor by turning him over to the Romans to take to the High Priests. Because that was all the soldiers were thier for. A delivery service. Now barnabas was mentioned. He also was going about the land claiming to be the chosen Messiah. When Yahshua and Barnabas was put up as a token of goodwill from the ceasar reconganizing Passover and the Feast. They had 2 choices 1 Yahshua meaning Yahweh saves or 2 Barnabas meaning Son of the Father. He was killing roman soldiers who this had been what the High Priests had interpreted the scriptures as he would come and take back authority. This is still what the Jews see him comming as a king the same as us. So without going alot futher with this. Judas had freewill or why would he of later hanged himself when he realized who Yahshua really was. He could not of realized he was doing was really wrong. It would be like a undercover cop living among drug dealers and 2 years later turning them in. That is only an example of what Judas could of seen the situation as. He had freewill but being the smartest one of the bunch as he kept the money. Again shows Yahweh takes the lowly and pure at heart to confind the wise. Judas is a lesson about wanting the things of this world over The Heavenly..Blessings...Miles

Free will is given to us after salvation. Before salvation we have no free will, yes in a sense we do because we can reach down and tie our shoe but we cannot do any good before salvation we will always do wickedness goodness is impossible unless you are saved. So free will is something given after salvation. There cannot be free will if it is impossible to do any good.

In acts 10.. Did corniliuos do any good before he was saved? Blessings...Miles

Cornelius was saved at the begining of the chapter. He had already been saved before chapter 10 spoke of him

He was? why did peter have the vision? Why did peter go to him with the 3 that was sent to corniliuos? Why did Peter make such a bold statement about Cornilious? Shalom....Miles

He was making a bold statement to all of the gentiles in Cornelius' house. And Peter was sent mostlikely as a learning experiance for Peter because he was calling what God HAD made clean, unclean

THE HISTORICAL TRUTH:



Judas Iscariot was trying to force Jesus to become a military leader because he believed he was the Jewish Messiah. When Judas realized he was wrong he committed suicide for betraying his rabbi.

The Jews believe that their Messiah will be a military leader, and Jesus is certainly no military leader.

Judas believed in the Messiah and thought it was his rabbi Jesus. He was trying to force Jesus and his followers into violent confrontation with the authorities. Judas did not intend to get his rabbi tortured and killed He thought Jesus would resist. This is why he killed himself when he realized he was wrong

"You betray Me with a kiss?"

That's a very good point. While what MirrorMirror says seems possible, the fact that Jesus called Judas' actions a betrayal makes it clear to me that Judas wasn't trying to help Jesus assume a military role, he was simply betraying his friend and teacher.

Is that the Christian point of view or the Jewish?

Gods.

Okay now I know you are not speaking for God or from God's point of view.... Are you?

Are you going to start claiming to be the messiah returned?

You cannot know God's "point of view."

JB

Acts 10:1-8

There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Regiment, 2 a devout man and one who feared Yahweh with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to Elohim always. 3 About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of Yahweh coming in and saying to him, "Cornelius!"

4 And when he observed him, he was afraid, and said, "What is it, master?"

So he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before Yahweh. 5 Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. 6 He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. He will tell you what you must do." 7 And when the angel who spoke to him had departed, Cornelius called two of his household servants and a devout soldier from among those who waited on him continually. 8 So when he had explained all these things to them, he sent them to Joppa.
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I believe Corniliuos was known by Yahweh and was saved before anything happened to him and he showed his obedience when he sent for Peter..You can be saved and not recieved of the Holy Spirit as prescfibed. You should do as you know you should when this knowledge comes upon you. Even the judgement speaks of those who are saved by thier works who never recieved messiah.

Acts 10:44-11:1

While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify Yahweh.

Then Peter answered, 47 "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?" 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Yahweh. Then they asked him to stay a few days.


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You are right it was to teach Peter that the Gentiles were clean and the sheets coming down with unclean animals was a sign of the 3 men sent who to Peter were unclean and not to call any man unclean. It is not as taught making all animals clean for food I might add. as Acts 11 explains in detail acts 10.

But people can die and be saved that has not recieved of the Holy spirit if they have not denied it or even heard of it. This was the point I was Making...Blessings....Miles

Whose?