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yeah but think about it ..our universe could be inside a dust bunny under a bed.  or riding on the back of a turtle through space |
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A fact, even if a subjective one, is a truth even if only known to the subject. If there is a "truth" you are discussing with people, you must be able to offer some logical root from whence your truth was derived. Otherwise you are asking people to discuss your subjective truth with no basis from which to discuss. Isn't this the very nature of all religious and spiritual thought? No religion can be supported via facts. All religious and spiritual views are a matter of faith. The only real fact is that everyone is agnostic whether the confess to it or not.  It's just that many people aren't willing to own up to this truth (even to themselves). |
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JB Wrote:
When I realized that death is not the end of my existence and that what I learned and experienced would become part of me, and what I have not learned would still be put before me to learn, it was then I felt the burden of responsibility upon my shoulders that all eternal entities must face. How did you learn this? The burden of responsibility was what? Who did you feel responsible to and who are you responsible to now? J.B. Wrote Yes, because one spirit (the higher self) can incarnate as many personalities. (Approximately 1500 according to the leading edge research group, Val V.) But that is only human incarnations. There were lower incarnations also that you could have chosen to experience.
Red responded: I trouble reading that without laughing. Sorry, but my question is, what research was done to find this information out? JB Replied: A very good question and I find it funny also. (I was simply naming the organization where I found the information. It may or may not be true, but in any case it is not all that important how many incarnations we will spend here in my opinion. I imagine it is quite a few.) I consider all information that rings possible. I have believed in reincarnation for a long time. It is not what I call "a path" I am following. It is more of a foundation for the structure of my world view and how reality works. It simply remains in place until a better hypothesis is found. As far as "how" this research is conducted, I haven't the foggiest idea, except that I know that out of body travel, and learning by spiritual means seem to be possible so I imagine spiritual research is done by spiritual means. So the information you got from this organization, made partial sense to you. So you did sort of a pick and choose to determine what fit, for now, with your ideas about reincarnation, which is a fact, according to you. I would like to question how did you determine that reincarnation is a fact, to you? Did you just piece parts of things you read, together and make up something you like? Or is there an actual philosophy that supports your “beliefs”? |
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So the information you got from this organization, made partial sense to you. So you did sort of a pick and choose to determine what fit, for now, with your ideas about reincarnation, which is a fact, according to you. I would like to question how did you determine that reincarnation is a fact, to you? Did you just piece parts of things you read, together and make up something you like? Or is there an actual philosophy that supports your "beliefs"? Process of illumination. Looking at many other philosophies and religions, I determined that reincarnation was the less ridiculous idea of them all. We have, after all, infinity. That's a very long "time." Although the nature of time is not what you think it is. It actually does not exist. What are my other two choices? 1.) Be born, live one life and die. Never to exist again. 2.) Be born, live one life and die, spirit goes to Heaven or hell according to some religious doctrine that does not make any sense. I just find those two choice more difficult to believe. But that is only a small part of my world view. I am always willing to look at other alternatives. If you think we live and we die, convince me how and why you think so. JB |
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CORRECTION OF WORD ELIMINATION:
Process of elimination. Looking at many other philosophies and religions, I determined that reincarnation was the less ridiculous idea of them all. We have, after all, infinity. That's a very long "time." Although the nature of time is not what you think it is. It actually does not exist. What are my other two choices? 1.) Be born, live one life and die. Never to exist again. 2.) Be born, live one life and die, spirit goes to Heaven or hell according to some religious doctrine that does not make any sense. I just find those two choice more difficult to believe. But that is only a small part of my world view. I am always willing to look at other alternatives. If you think we live and we die, convince me how and why you think so. JB |
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