Topic: Reincarnation
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Tue 05/20/08 07:00 PM
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Tue 05/20/08 07:01 PM

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Tue 05/20/08 07:30 PM

"One preclear (student of Scientology) said that this Thetan (somewhat similar to 'soul' or 'spirit') had inhabited the body of a doll on the planet Mars 469,476,600 years ago. Martians seized the doll and took it to a temple, where it was zapped by a bishop's gun while the congregation chanted 'God is Love.' The Thetan was then put in an ice cube, placed aboard a flying saucer, and dropped off at Planet ZX 432, where it was given a robot body, then put to work unloading flying saucers. Being a bit unruly, it zapped another robot to death and was shipped off in a flying saucer to be punished. But the flying saucer exploded, and the Thetan fell into space"
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/scientol.htm




They are one scary cult. It would be funny if they didn't kill and harm so many people.

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Tue 05/20/08 07:33 PM
They are one scary cult. It would be funny if they didn't kill and harm so many people.


Please be more specific. Where is there information that Scientology has killed and or harmed people?

I would like to hear about this.


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Tue 05/20/08 07:40 PM


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Awww sweets I knew you would....nothing gets past you....

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Tue 05/20/08 08:19 PM
Very interesting thread JB! I have questions but am not sure how to ask them without appearing to be a bigger moron than I already am. laugh flowerforyou

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Tue 05/20/08 09:39 PM

Very interesting thread JB! I have questions but am not sure how to ask them without appearing to be a bigger moron than I already am. laugh flowerforyou


I welcome any questions, but my answers are to be considered my opinion and nothing more.

JB

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Tue 05/20/08 10:12 PM
I think sometimes the mind needs to know that there is justice in the universe. Thet every bad thing a person does they will pay for, in kind, is one way the mind can put to rest why the bad in this life seems so inequatable.

We are actually taught how to come to such logical conclusions by the fairytales we are read to as children and by the fantasy books we read as we grow.

Reincarnation, in my opinion, is one way to appease a mind that NEEDs to beleive there is justice in the universe.

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Tue 05/20/08 10:37 PM



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Awww sweets I knew you would....nothing gets past you....
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Wed 05/21/08 11:08 AM




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Awww sweets I knew you would....nothing gets past you....
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Wed 05/21/08 11:12 AM
ok I will just have to add my 2cents.....

If reincarnation was correct.....then I would have to reincarnate from something higher then what I was previously......so now I am to believe that I just keep coming back until the lessons I need are learned.....But since I come back with no memory of my past experiences then it is just a vicious circle of never learning anything......now that folks makes no sense at all......And just say for argument sake I was an eagle......and then a horse.....well they would have completely different lessons to learn so again........bleeeeepppppppppppp no sense to this game called reincarnation....

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Wed 05/21/08 11:19 AM
I read a book a long time ago Many Lives Many Masters, the theory we come back until we get it right. Indians believe they come back. For me, I'm a Christian and when my time comes, I'm never coming back, Thank you, Jesus

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Wed 05/21/08 11:50 AM
Yahweh say he knows every hair of our head. Now if we were reincarnated which head of hair would he know? The scriptures speak of it in a way but not as a different being someone else. It speaks of coming in the spirit of. Like John the Baptists came in the spirit of EliYah..Shalom..Miles

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Wed 05/21/08 02:19 PM

ok I will just have to add my 2cents.....

If reincarnation was correct.....then I would have to reincarnate from something higher then what I was previously......so now I am to believe that I just keep coming back until the lessons I need are learned.....But since I come back with no memory of my past experiences then it is just a vicious circle of never learning anything......now that folks makes no sense at all......And just say for argument sake I was an eagle......and then a horse.....well they would have completely different lessons to learn so again........bleeeeepppppppppppp no sense to this game called reincarnation....


IMHO reincarnation is a fact.

We come here for experience. The higher self is who I am. I look like a ball of light or sphere. I incarnate into the time worlds and inhabit bodies there. Currently I am having the experience as a human.

We exist in such a place that we can incarnate into any time line, either the future or the past. We send out life streams that connect to the bodies we inhabit. We send them out and they inhabit bodies in all time lines, so we humans incarnate simultaneously in relation to earth time.

This means that you could even inhabit more than one body during the same time line and even meet yourself along the way. It means that your next life could be in the past, or the distant future.

The memories of your other lives are temporarily blocked as you enter the world. This is to enable you to live one life at a time. Otherwise you would be trying to live hundreds of lives at once in different time lines.

When your body dies you return to your higher self body. (the light Orb) and you regain all of your memories and you can review your life and all of your other lives. You will meet the personalities of all your other lives and be one with their memories.

So you have learned many things, and you have experienced many things by the time you finish the earth incarnations.
Now it is time to move to another level of conciousness.

Jeannie

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Wed 05/21/08 02:24 PM

I read a book a long time ago Many Lives Many Masters, the theory we come back until we get it right. Indians believe they come back. For me, I'm a Christian and when my time comes, I'm never coming back, Thank you, Jesus


IMO if you are here, you have been down a long road of incarnations.

Only the boldest of the bold will come this far.

To incarnate into these dense worlds takes awesome courage because as a human your memory of who you are is suspended temporarily as you live each life.

You are on the leading edge of creation and the Universe expands because of your bravery in choosing to come here.

JB


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Wed 05/21/08 02:30 PM
IMHO reincarnation is a fact.


Ok - so now, in your honest opinion does this mean you have STOPPED looking. Is this what you fianlly believe? Is this the basis from which all your other believs will revolve?

Or are you still subject to some whimisical change of mind?

After all it is difficult, with you, to determine what you "really really" believe and when you use IMHO I must think your are finally graduating to the junior call of fundamentalism......

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Wed 05/21/08 02:37 PM

I think sometimes the mind needs to know that there is justice in the universe. Thet every bad thing a person does they will pay for, in kind, is one way the mind can put to rest why the bad in this life seems so inequatable.

We are actually taught how to come to such logical conclusions by the fairytales we are read to as children and by the fantasy books we read as we grow.

Reincarnation, in my opinion, is one way to appease a mind that NEEDs to beleive there is justice in the universe.



Actually, I felt at peace when I once believed that when you are dead you are dead, and that was the end of it.

Death was like the great escape from the hardship of life. You could reek evil and havoc, murder and all manner of cruelty upon others if you so chose and when you die, they can't come after you.

That is not the way it is.

When I realized that death is not the end of my existence and that what I learned and experienced would become part of me, and what I have not learned would still be put before me to learn, it was then I felt the burden of responsibility upon my shoulders that all eternal entities must face.

At first I didn't like it. Death is not the way out of the responsibility of life. There is no escape from existence.

I became convinced of this by what some people would call a "hallucination." But I never took drugs.

I simply learned I could get out of my body and still think and see things. Then get back inside my body. I existed without it.

Others have been clinically dead and come back to life with memories of being outside of their bodies.

One man came back to life on a slab in the morgue about to be cut open. He had spent three days in the cooler, dead from serious injuries after a car accident.

He had been an atheist. He is now a minister. I would say he was convinced.

JB






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Wed 05/21/08 02:42 PM

Yahweh say he knows every hair of our head. Now if we were reincarnated which head of hair would he know?


All of them of course. bigsmile


The scriptures speak of it in a way but not as a different being someone else. It speaks of coming in the spirit of. Like John the Baptists came in the spirit of EliYah..Shalom..Miles


Yes, because one spirit (the higher self) can incarnate as many personalities. (Approximately 1500 according to the leading edge research group, Val V.) But that is only human incarnations. There were lower incarnations also that you could have chosen to experience.


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Wed 05/21/08 02:49 PM

IMHO reincarnation is a fact.


Ok - so now, in your honest opinion does this mean you have STOPPED looking. Is this what you fianlly believe? Is this the basis from which all your other believs will revolve?

Or are you still subject to some whimisical change of mind?

After all it is difficult, with you, to determine what you "really really" believe and when you use IMHO I must think your are finally graduating to the junior call of fundamentalism......



I am never positive that I am 100% correct. In looking at my other choices, I have concluded that incarnation, and reincarnation is the most logical solution and it fits into the current world view on the table. (My table)

I am always open to any new information or alternate solutions that would fit better into the whole picture.

I have discarded the idea that we only live once and then go to eternal heaven or hell.

I have discarded the idea that we live only once and then die, becoming non-existent or unconscious.

I am still always open for other solutions. Do you have one that you can present?

JB


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Wed 05/21/08 03:01 PM
Well at least for now, you have a path to follow, but I question.

Yes, because one spirit (the higher self) can incarnate as many personalities. (Approximately 1500 according to the leading edge research group, Val V.) But that is only human incarnations. There were lower incarnations also that you could have chosen to experience.


I trouble reading that without laughing. Sorry, but my question is, what research was done to find this information out?