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Topic: Brilliance
Abracadabra's photo
Thu 05/08/08 10:36 AM
He was quoting the psalm in their law that declared that.


I am fully aware of the context Wouldee. That doesn't change a thing. He supported the notion. That's the same as saying it.

He said that he did not come to change the laws, and then he says, "Is this not written in your laws?"

He's a pantheist who realized that even the Old Testament can be used to support pantheism if you search through it carefully enough. And that's what he did.

If you read the Gospels of Jesus through the eyes of understanding pantheism, you can clearly see what Jesus was attempting to preach. And he tried to preach it within the context of their Old Testament to make it more palatable for them.

Obviously he was a very wise sage and he realized that the Old Testament was ambiguous enough that he could simultaneously claim to agree with it and yet still actually change the “laws”, which he clearly did!!!

He stopped people from stoning each other to death, and he taught them to turn the other cheek instead of seeking revenge with an eye-for-an-eye, etc.

Clearly Jesus supported the idea that “Ye are Gods”.

I’m fully aware of the context Wouldee, that doesn’t change the fact that he supported the notion.

no photo
Thu 05/08/08 11:04 AM
Perception and interpretation is what it is all about. There are so many.

I read a lot of passages in the Bible that mean entirely different things to me than what other people claim that they mean.

They are so ambiguous. Many of the things Jesus was said to have said, probably was not understood and was probably coded in parables.

If he had spoken his truth directly or clearly, he would have been killed before he got any message across to anyone.

JB

wouldee's photo
Thu 05/08/08 11:24 AM
Edited by wouldee on Thu 05/08/08 11:31 AM

He was quoting the psalm in their law that declared that.


I am fully aware of the context Wouldee. That doesn't change a thing. He supported the notion. That's the same as saying it.

He said that he did not come to change the laws, and then he says, "Is this not written in your laws?"

He's a pantheist who realized that even the Old Testament can be used to support pantheism if you search through it carefully enough. And that's what he did.

If you read the Gospels of Jesus through the eyes of understanding pantheism, you can clearly see what Jesus was attempting to preach. And he tried to preach it within the context of their Old Testament to make it more palatable for them.

Obviously he was a very wise sage and he realized that the Old Testament was ambiguous enough that he could simultaneously claim to agree with it and yet still actually change the “laws”, which he clearly did!!!

He stopped people from stoning each other to death, and he taught them to turn the other cheek instead of seeking revenge with an eye-for-an-eye, etc.

Clearly Jesus supported the idea that “Ye are Gods”.

I’m fully aware of the context Wouldee, that doesn’t change the fact that he supported the notion.




abra.

I see.

Now it is that he didn't come to change the law.

Wrong again. He came to fufill it. It says so in the same passage that you villify in your contrived manipulations. That is found in the other thread that you posted today. Does that change this one?

You are doing it again.
Your understanding is so perverted with your lies, that you cannot even read anything in the Bible without filtering it through your hatreds which are the source of your personal cconfusion.

You are a false teacher and you prove it incessantly.

Even now, with the utter blindness of your hatred glaringly exposing you as the liar that you are.


why do add insult to injury upon yourself?

huh

are you ill?brokenheart

wouldee's photo
Thu 05/08/08 11:25 AM
Edited by wouldee on Thu 05/08/08 11:35 AM

Perception and interpretation is what it is all about. There are so many.

I read a lot of passages in the Bible that mean entirely different things to me than what other people claim that they mean.

They are so ambiguous. Many of the things Jesus was said to have said, probably was not understood and was probably coded in parables.

If he had spoken his truth directly or clearly, he would have been killed before he got any message across to anyone.

JB


He did. That is why he was murdered. He was 30 when he started speaking. It took them only three and a half years to kill him, and when they caught him a the Garden of Gethsemane the witnesses to the event saw that he surrenderd himself to them. That was the intent of the surrender.
They couldn't take him before he gave himself to be taken.
flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Thu 05/08/08 11:36 AM


One thing for certain. I never said much about atheist's in this thread. I'm not a very wise man probably not near as intelligent than abracadabra. But I was simply stating that the God who DID create the sun must have been a magnificent One! I know who that God is and have come to know Him by His loving kindness and grace. I cannot have a philosophical discussion about His existance or why my God is true and other's aren't I just know it to be true. And wanted to express one of my writings on my oberservations of this God I have come to know.


Very true...we live by a simple faith & leave the intellualizing to those who are still too carnal to understand it. God at some point in my life said..."Why do you always resist Me?" LOL How great is our God? AWESOME!!!! :)


I wish I could be as simple minded...how much easier my life would be....blessed are the children.
flowerforyou

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Thu 05/08/08 11:42 AM


Perception and interpretation is what it is all about. There are so many.

I read a lot of passages in the Bible that mean entirely different things to me than what other people claim that they mean.

They are so ambiguous. Many of the things Jesus was said to have said, probably was not understood and was probably coded in parables.

If he had spoken his truth directly or clearly, he would have been killed before he got any message across to anyone.

JB


He did. That is why he was murdered. He was 30 when he started speaking. It took them only three and a half years to kill him, and when they caught him a the Garden of Gethsemane the witnesses to the event saw that he surrenderd himself to them. That was the intent of the surrender.
They couldn't take him before he gave himself to be taken.
flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile


Three and a half years of speaking in riddles and parables. I am saying that if he had spoken clearly what he wanted to speak first, the people would have not understood, and second, he would not have lasted three and a half years.

He would have been dead after his first sermon probably.

JB

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