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Topic: ughhhhh
Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 08:51 PM


The school I go to gives English as a second language, financed by the State with tax-payers money.
When the last immigration bill was before congress it would have required the illegals to learn English to have any chance of becoming a citizen. The response was massive and immediate. They had so many illegals signing up for the English classes the school was forced to hire extra teachers. (Only 1 in 17 are legal here)
Anyway, after hiring the extra teachers and forking out the tax dollars to pay for it, congress voted down the bill.
Poof, no more participation, no interest in learning English at all, and the ones who were enrolled already, disappeared, dropped out.
The tax-payers were out the money, and the school was forced to lay-off all the teachers they had just hired. The illegals have no interest at all in learning English unless it is required of them. Even when the classes are free!!


I had no idea about that. All I can say is WOW


Fact, and yet they still wont take advantage of it. Just like when they could go fight in Iraq and gain citizenship very few actually will.
They just want the benefits our countries bleeding hearts dole out free. They dont want to earn them.
I was just reading an article that says Mexico accounts for the largest Population of illegals in the world. Anywhere, their gov estimates-11.5 million. That 11.5 million sent back to Mexico 24 billion American dollars in 2006.
Heres a quote,

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/world/mexico/stories/013108dnintremit.3d3d0e6.html

For the first time in years, the flow of remittances – greenbacks from Mexico's many migrants in the U.S. – was virtually flat along what the World Bank calls the planet's largest migration corridor. Mexico's Central Bank reported Wednesday that it received nearly $24 billion in 2007, compared with $23.74 billion in 2006, after several years of double-digit increases.

The government cited the sluggish economy in the U.S. and increased vigilance by U.S. officials.

"We used to be a community of lonely women and children," Mrs. Ramírez said. "Now, look around, all you see is a bunch of old people. We don't get much money from the United States anymore."

Remittances – as they are known in banker jargon – serve as a sort of pension fund, a community development fund and educational fund for many of Mexico's elderly and young.

In a January report, the World Bank said that Mexico leads the world in the number of emigrants with 11.5 million. But antipathy toward illegal immigrants in the U.S. – many of them Mexican – has caused federal law enforcement to crack down with more force. In the last year, state and local governments have passed scores of ordinances and bills tightening employment regulations and providing for deeper scrutiny of Social Security numbers.

Mexico's central bank attributed the 1 percent rise in remittances to the slowdown of the U.S. economy, especially the construction industry, which it called "an important occupation for a high number of workers of Mexican origin."

In general, Mexicans in the U.S. were also hit by the "growing difficulties for undocumented migrants" at the workplace, the central bank report said.

Almost all money Mexico receives in remittances comes from the U.S. A recent report by World Bank economist Dilip Ratha and others also noted that the slowdown in greenbacks was attributable to "anti-immigration sentiment in the United States."


Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 08:57 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 05/01/08 08:58 PM
I have news for all these American hating Canadians too. Lesser but similar problems are in store for the Canadian economy.
Mexico and Canadian exports to and from American are 88% of their economy!

Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:01 PM

I have news for all these American hating Canadians too. Lesser but similar problems are in store for the Canadian economy.
Mexico and Canadian exports to and from American are 88% of their economy!
yeah, I knew that, but I bit my tongue. Most canadians I know are very respectful people. I think this board just draws some of the edge fringe

kidatheart70's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:02 PM

I have news for all these American hating Canadians too. Lesser but similar problems are in store for the Canadian economy.
Mexico and Canadian exports to and from American are 88% of their economy!



Which Canadians are they?huh

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:04 PM
We have the largest market in the world. We have the lone ability to be 100% self-sufficient, but Globalization is pulling us down!

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:05 PM
As the American dollar turns so does the Canadian dollar, and the Mexican Peso.
As well as half the world..

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:14 PM
I go to sleep for a while and spend my time playing catch up now lol


Single_Rob's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:16 PM

I go to sleep for a while and spend my time playing catch up now lol


just suffice to say it is time to lock the gate, for real this time, and have a forced mass expulsion

Fanta46's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:17 PM

I go to sleep for a while and spend my time playing catch up now lol




love flowerforyou love flowerforyou bigsmile

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 05/01/08 09:19 PM
lol rob...i think you know my stance on things. come to think of it...i think everyone does lol

when i go into testings the weekend...i'm going to have them fine tune my brain to catch up lol

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Thu 05/01/08 10:52 PM


Rob there is nothing wrong with that, who said they were illegally here?
if they were legal they would be able to speak english. English is required through naturalization.


no it isnt

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 05/01/08 11:04 PM
found this link

http://www.visaus.com/citizen.html

There are only two ways to become a U.S. citizen: either by law, or by birth.
If you are a citizen by birth, no action on your part is generally required (for example, if you were born in a state or territory of the United States), unless you were born to a U.S. citizen parent overseas, and your birth was not recorded as a U.S. citizen birth at a U.S. consulate overseas.
If you are not, then you will probably seek to become one by naturalization, an administrative process that requires you to take some action and which is strictly governed by the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
Generally -- very generally -- you may not be naturalized unless you:

1. Are at least 18 years old and a lawful permanent resident ("green card" holder);
2. Have resided continuously in the United States, having been lawfully admitted for permanent residence, for five years immediately preceding the date you filed your application for naturalization, or
3. Have, after having been removed from conditional permanent resident status, based upon your marriage to a U.S. citizen, having resided in the United States for one year after the date the condition was removed;
4. Have resided continuously in the United States at all times after your application to the time and date of your admission for citizenship;
5. Have, during all periods of time referred to above, been and still are a person of good moral character;
6. Have no outstanding deportation or removal order and no pending deportation or removal proceeding;
7. Have the ability to read, write, speak, and understand simple words and phrases in English;
8. Have knowledge and understanding of the fundamentals of U.S. history and government;
9. Are attached to, and can support, the principles of the U.S. Constitution and can swear allegiance to the United States.

(unless something has been changed since)

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Thu 05/01/08 11:14 PM
you can live and work legally in the US and not have to become a citizen to do it...my status is permanent resident alien...I dont have to know english to live and work in the US or meet any of the other requirements for citizenship.

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 05/01/08 11:31 PM
you are right...but that is a legal way also. i simply posted what i found to become a citizen

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