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Topic: Human Nature
MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 04/30/08 06:46 PM
glasses Inherently good, evil, or neither ?glasses

neanderthalDave's photo
Wed 04/30/08 06:49 PM
societies

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Wed 04/30/08 06:49 PM
I think it depends on how we define "evil"

Abracadabra's photo
Wed 04/30/08 07:30 PM

I think it depends on how we define "evil"


I'm in complete agreement with none4u.

By my definition of evil - "The willful disobedience of God"

I've never done an evil thing in my life. Therefore, by that definition I'm a living example of a human being who isn't evil. So I from my perspective all humans can't possibly be evil.

flowerforyou

wouldee's photo
Wed 04/30/08 08:39 PM
neither

we are malleable

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

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Wed 04/30/08 08:48 PM
Humans have great potential.

Once we evolve to conscious thinking personalities, we can excel at either good or evil.

flowerforyou

yashafox_F4X1's photo
Wed 04/30/08 08:56 PM
The Bible says we've all fallen short of the glory of God.

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Thu 05/01/08 01:16 PM

The Bible says we've all fallen short of the glory of God.


That does not make us evil does it? bigsmile

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/01/08 01:23 PM
When we can get over our own ego, we are basically good. Religion is not needed to determine right or wrong, humanly, we know what is right and wrong.

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 05/01/08 01:35 PM

Religion is not needed to determine right or wrong, humanly, we know what is right and wrong.


Amen Sister. drinker

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/01/08 01:40 PM


Religion is not needed to determine right or wrong, humanly, we know what is right and wrong.


Amen Sister. drinker


flowerforyou

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Thu 05/01/08 02:02 PM
man as a specie is inherently good because it comes from good.
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Just a comment from a couple of things i read above

I can't be judge and a party in any litigation in any legal system.

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Thu 05/01/08 02:43 PM
Inherently neutral, but predisposed towards evil by nature and disposed towards good by reason.

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Thu 05/01/08 03:00 PM

Inherently neutral, but predisposed towards evil by nature and disposed towards good by reason.


Nature is not predisposed towards evil.

JB

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 05/01/08 03:08 PM
flowerforyou Virtually every religion that has ever existed has said that human nature is inherently evil or somehow seperated from the "natural order" and needs to be reconciled with some sort of absolute truth in order to remedy this condition.flowerforyou

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Thu 05/01/08 03:10 PM
inherently good

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Thu 05/01/08 03:21 PM


Inherently neutral, but predisposed towards evil by nature and disposed towards good by reason.


Nature is not predisposed towards evil.

JB


That's a completely different issue and not one that I was posting about. I said that humans are predisposed towards evil by nature. From birth. People are mean, careless, thoughtless and rude just by their very nature. Do the turn signal test. Drive in heavy traffic and watch how much easier it is to change lanes if you don't use your turn signal.

creativesoul's photo
Thu 05/01/08 03:21 PM
Edited by creativesoul on Thu 05/01/08 03:38 PM
I love this topic. I genuinely have a great interest in human behaviour(s). Always seeking the answer to why I, myself, have chosen what I have chosen has been a very mind opening/altering process which is enlightening, to say the least, and a blessing in peace to say the most.

It is my understanding that humans are inherently needful creatures from birth. The need to be accepted being the one which affects our nature of perception the most. Our perception equates to what we believe, what we recognize, and it is the foundation of our will.

As far as I am concerned, the will is born of our perceptual faculty and it changes accordingly throughout one's life. Will cannot change without a perception change. A perception change cannot happen without exposure to a new understanding which not only necessitates the change, but also allows it.

As wouldee so aptly said...malleable. glasses

We as humans will conform to whatever we are taught at an early age. Those things which we accept as truth within us become our foundation of measure against all things further considered throughout life. Hopefully somewhere within our lifetime if we have been taught things which are not true, then there were other things also taught along the way which can counteract those thief teachings.

If our perception is skewed by a fountain of misinformation which has been accepted as truth, then our reality will surely follow.

Even if one's perception of an event is accurately measured and resolved at the time, it could very well be misappropriately applied to a similar situation in the future.

Children learn what they live, without a choice... adults learn what they want to live, based upon the perceptual faculties cultivated throughout life.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/01/08 03:45 PM

I love this topic. I genuinely have a great interest in human behaviour(s). Always seeking the answer to why I, myself, have chosen what I have chosen has been a very mind opening/altering process which is enlightening, to say the least, and a blessing in peace to say the most.

It is my understanding that humans are inherently needful creatures from birth. The need to be accepted being the one which affects our nature of perception the most. Our perception equates to what we believe, what we recognize, and it is the foundation of our will.

As far as I am concerned, the will is born of our perceptual faculty and it changes accordingly throughout one's life. Will cannot change without a perception change. A perception change cannot happen without exposure to a new understanding which not only necessitates the change, but also allows it.

As wouldee so aptly said...malleable. glasses

We as humans will conform to whatever we are taught at an early age. Those things which we accept as truth within us become our foundation of measure against all things further considered throughout life. Hopefully somewhere within our lifetime if we have been taught things which are not true, then there were other things also taught along the way which can counteract those thief teachings.

If our perception is skewed by a fountain of misinformation which has been accepted as truth, then our reality will surely follow.

Even if one's perception of an event is accurately measured and resolved at the time, it could very well be misappropriately applied to a similar situation in the future.

Children learn what they live, without a choice... adults learn what they want to live, based upon the perceptual faculties cultivated throughout life.


Creativeflowerforyou We are in trouble because I understood ALL OF THAT with no problem...LOL flowerforyou

I agree. I also want to add that some people seem to be naturally more open to different ways of viewing the world or people or anything than others. So going along with your words, some people seem to hit the "adult" learning process sooner and some stay stuck in the "child" learning process.

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Thu 05/01/08 03:52 PM

glasses Inherently good, evil, or neither ?glasses


We are inherently good.

It is when we choose to harm others when we become evil.

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