...if it's not followed by a spiritual growing.
what i mean is that there are a lot of fellow christians that study all their lifes philosophy, theology, apologetics, exegetics, etc.
And they are real God scholars, yet all their knowledge is in their brain, but their heart is empty.
Don't get me wrong, it's important to know God's science deeply, so we can defend our faith against the attacks which come from every side.
However, words that come just from the mind are empty words.
The words that have strength are those which come from a heart filled with God's love.

so words come from the brain and heart?!!!! huh...i thought they come from the mouth

sometimes they come from other cavities.

This is what I'll never understand Miguel. Why is it so important to defend your faith???

I couldn't care less what other people believe as long as they don't try to shove their beliefs onto me via politics or proselytizing.

I have absolutely no need to defend my beliefs to anyone. And I certainly don't feel any need to defend the creator of this universe. If the creator of this universe can't defend itself then its creation must have gotten out of its control.

It's not my job to defend "God". That's an absurd notion in the first place. To even claim that my God would need to be defended by little old me suggests that it needs my help. That would be a pretty feeble picture of a God.

If your God needs to be defended you're in pretty bad shape don't ya think?

Edited to add,...

The only reason Christianity needs to defend its position is because it's trying to sell its beliefs to others.

If you have a product for sale people obviously are going to kick the tires to see if anything rattles. That's what you call being 'attacked'. But if the religion wasn't trying to proselytize iself this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

My good friend.
I'm not defending my God. You are perfectly correct. He does not need to be defended.
i said: "defend our beliefs."
which does not mean at any time proselytize or trying to convert anybody (which as i have stated too many times is absolutely worthless and fundamentalist)
When i say defend my beliefs from attacks is when somebody call it a myth for whatever reasons. well i will defend my reasons why i think my beliefs are not myths.
all this as long as the exchange of reasons is carried with certain level of education.
(i know i fail in this one several times).

to your add
i never speak for the religion in general.
i always speak for what i particularly have learnt and understood from it.
u may have notice, how many times i have disagreed with fellow christians in too many things.
nevertheless, that is not a reason why i'm going to let what i believe to be ridiculed.

Abra....that's where I disagree. I will defend my beliefs because it is very important to me. defending something means it was attacked in the first place...so no I won't back down. defending against an attack doesn't mean pushing it down someone's throat. it would be different if you were the attacker not defender

I still see no reason to worry about what other people think. Why should you care if they believe it to be a myth? That shouldn’t be a threat to your faith.

Our hearts and souls have no words without the brain teaching it to them. I understand the feelings that come from the heart and soul but our brain is our communicator of these feelings, no way around it.

That's absurd.

If I ask you if you believe in Pantheism and you say no. Do I start claiming that you are attacking my religion because you don't believe it?

After all, if you don't believe it then you're basically saying that you believe it's a myth.

depends on how you defend yourself. defending by attacking...no..but standing up and speaking your mind..yes. you would be surprised. i feel no reason to let someone trash or walk all over me...but doesn't mean i'm going to throw down either. it's basically respect issues...not that your belief is in danger

Besides, this whole argument nothing more than a refusal to respect freedom of speech.

All you people are really saying is that no one should be able to voice their opinion and/or reasons why they feel the Bible is a myth.

Proselytizers would LOVE that!!!

Let’s just shut everyone up who might have an opinion concerning the truth of the Bible and where are we???

Right back in the dark ages where it’s illegal to speak out against the authority of the church!!!

Well, I'll be the first to agree that it would be wrong to make a personal attack on someone.

But I'm talking about speaking to the actual doctrine itself. I don't see why anyone should need to be restrained from saying that they believe the stories in a book are nothing more than manmade ideas, if that's what they truly believe.

That's not a personal attack. It's just their opinion about a piece of ancient literature.

I have no problem with other beliefs...i actually like them. but just like i won't attack people because they believe something different...i expect the same respect. i would expect others to stand up for what they believe if they felt disrespected. i'm not talking about someone saying what they believe...i am talking about an attack

I disagree with the premise also because I freed my spirit the day I stopped letting religions define it. My spirit has never been more healthy. I do not need religion to make me feel superior to others. I do not need to join the "persecuted christian club" and say everyone attacks my beliefs all the time. I do not have to "belong" to anyone elses judgements.

My spirit is free and it is sooooooo great, I do not even have words to describe it.

I disagree with you on some things (go figure huh lol)
not everyone that belongs to a religion feels superior...if they do...it's not a religion I want to be in. not sure about the club you are talking about but it's not one I want to join either. just because you belong somewhere doesn't mean it's judgemental...JMO anyway

but dragoness...if you feel free and happy...who am I to say it's wrong????

Well, like I say, I don't believe it's right to attack individuals either.

However, having said that, there are organized movements to convert the world to "Christianity". And many people see that as being detrimental to the humanity because it ultimately does support the prophecy that humanity is going to become increasingly hostile and eventually culminate in a really nasty religious war over the Middle East.

Hey, that’s a deadly myth to be trying to get the whole world to believe!!!

So trying to educate people that this really is just a myth is just as important as it was to educated them that disease wasn’t caused by bodies being possessed by evil demons!

If you didn’t believe in evil demons and you were trying to get people to come around to accepting modern medicine you’d probably what to speak out against that superstition too.

This is precisely how I view the biblical stories. They are superstitious myths that are very hazardous to humanity if they are globally believed because they will actually cause hostilities in the Middle East to escalate.

I’m just trying to bring humanity out of the dark ages is all.

Mabey, Mabey Not, Folks need 2 constantly examine themselves, IT feeling good dont make it right.

That's absurd.

If I ask you if you believe in Pantheism and you say no. Do I start claiming that you are attacking my religion because you don't believe it?

After all, if you don't believe it then you're basically saying that you believe it's a myth.

sorry...just saw this...my computer is slow lol. it maybe absurd to you but not to me.

but turn it around....not everyone that asks if someone believes in Christianity does that either

yes...to me what I don't believe is a myth TO ME...but i respect it's not to someone else....just like they might see mine as a myth but it's not to me.

it goes both ways for all beliefs. my wiccan friend and i can debate but respect and agree to disagree. but there are some in her coven that push just as bad as some christians...i will listen to them but will stand up for my beliefs as well. i would expect my friend to do the same if my church (which I haven't found one i like yet) did that to her. i would even defend her right to believe.

goes both ways...it's about respect which (as i believe and was brought up to believe), as a chrisitan, you should have. but i can only speak for my beliefs...but it should go for anyone..respect