Journey, sounds like you have a lot of cynical friends. Sounds like you're quite a bit cynical about the whole thing yourself.

Having said that, I'm in the same boat myself. This is why I pretty much shut down my account except for just lurking on the forums.

I have to burst your bubble though, online is not the only place where players happen. Not too long ago (and most likely still) they hung around in bars and other social events. It's just now they live online more.

And, it could just be mind you, those guys have become just as cynical as you about relationships and marriage. So they're just trying to satisfy a physical need and leave emotions out of it. Men I guess in general are more equipped to handle that.

I like your religion Blondie, but if I'd have to talk like Yoda my grammar will get all screwed up.

... and I worry about the freudian implications of a wrinkled little green guy coming to you in a dream. ;)

Even if she was an incurable gambler?

I have the perfect test:

- take your suspected virgin on a romantic cruise to Ethiopia
- go for a stroll by the sea
- tie her to a rock
- wait for the Kraken
- if the Kraken doesn't show up in say, a day or so, she's not a virgin. ;)
- untie her from the rock
- and after she's finished beating your sorry self to a pulp, take her back to where you found her, profusely apologizing all the way.
- and maybe you'll survive the experience when her brothers come after you. ;)
- rinse and repeat until a) the Kraken eats your virgin, or/and b) you die horribly at the hands of some very mad bros.

Wow, lots of good questions tonight! And I feel in a gabby mood lol.

If the other person is working to get themselves out of debt, then I'd have no problem. I did make the mistake to marry someone who was not stable financially, and throughout the years things became worse. Now I'm stuck with pretty much all the debt. So, I'd have to know a lot about that person and how responsible they are financially before I make a commitment, love or not.

I now also view a person's financial stability as a character trait... I mean, that's a reflection on how responsible they are, right? Of course, now that I think more on this, there are exceptions... like if they got laid off. But as long as they are honestly trying, and not just giving up.

Welcome fellow mini! :-)

In my opinion, it goes like this:

If the sexual experience was good (for both), then more likely than not it will add to your mutual attraction.

If the experience was not so good, it may detract, but maybe not. The first time two people have sex can be awkward sometimes... learning a brand new body takes time. It's much like dancing really. So a not so great experience could be a bit disappointing, but if you look at it as a learning experience about each other (and not some sort of test) then your love should not be affected.

Well, I'd rather say
"Want some candy little girl?"
rather than
"Would you like an after dinner mint madam?"

But really, my favorite word is dudette. :)

Good question.

Been married twice and tbh, the first time was mostly due to "doing the right thing". I respected her religion, so I did. I personally would've been just as happy staying together like Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn.

Second time was to offer commitment to her and her family in a formal way. She wanted me to adopt her stepdaughter and be a more formal "family unit". That was in some ways a mistake.

I still believe, as I did when I was younger, that marriage is just a piece of paper. A marriage certificate does not love make, nor does it do anything but formally legitimize children. It doesn't even guarantee commitment, proof the divorce rate, except try to coerce it through the financial implications of divorce.

Bottom line to me, a lifetime commitment does not require a legal document. If that's what it takes to get commitment, then the relationship is in trouble to start with.

Just my two cents.

Absolutely!

If my SO worked at say, a slaughterhouse, then I'd say... free steaks! :P

"I drank what!!!" - Socrates

Whenever I have to go,
Yellow snow! Yellow snow! Yellow snow!

Means I'm once again at 90 degrees from the rest of the world.

So, I celebrate by listening to dysfunctional xmas songs and watching dysfunctional xmas movies and shows, like South Park's Mr. Hanky Christmas Special.

Bah humbug indeed.

Welcome back Blondey! :)

I think it's best we both laugh... like bouncing off the bed at "that moment". Lol.

Laughing at the man's perfomance during the "first time" may be awkward. Once you're comfortable it becomes just funny. Unless you laugh at _every_ performance lol.

I like mine most of the time. Sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it.

I am IT guy. I show choo-choo. I show where choo-choo go. Our group is basically a railroad version of Google Maps lol. It is challenging, and sometimes high pressure, but I like challenges and the job is seldom boring.

Oh and Ame, you're still way better than me at math!

Owatta Fulami

Good stuff there, some I've seen. Holy Moly torgo, now THAT's a list!

The Returned caught my eye there.

Ok, another one I haven't seen in years:

Catch 22

Thank you and so do I!

If I have a chance to know when and how I die, I'd like to know if I'll die like my grandfather in his sleep or the other three passangers in the car screaming their heads off.

But really, I don't want to know. If I found out I'll die tomorrow then I won't be able to see my daughter's graduation in two weeks. It's really like being told by the doctor you only have so much time to live. Even if you're 100 years old, it's never a happy announcement, I don't think.

Watersign, hope we don't have to bring out the adult sex ed tape now, do we?

It's about the bird, the bee and her girlfriend and...

Lol, if you haven't been scared off by now, then you definitely belong here.

Welcome!