1. Having grown up around alcohol abuse- I avoid imbibing alcohol- nonreligious
2. I avoid the consumption of flesh- religious

She was insulting me because she thinks I am a know-it-all, as I happen to disagree with the veracity of the topic on hand. You have me confused with the ark- I assume Coptic Xians and you mention Muslims?

This is also a retrofit as the Jewish definition of what and who a messiah was is that he would be soley human

The Concept of Logos or Artistic Fire

Heraclitus, a noble from Ephesus (ca. 500 B.C.), was the first to identify the Word; “that universal principle which animates and rules the world” as the Urstoff. He claims the Word as Reason, a Reason that rules the universe. Still, for Heraclitus, man remained trapped within the cycles of the earth (spring, summer, fall, winter; birth, middle age, death).

Later, Galen, described the Logos in the following terms: He “did not make the world as an artisan does his work, but it is by wholly penetrating all matter that He is the demiurge of the universe” [Galen, “de qual. Incorp.”].

Plutarch wrote that the Logos was a “go-between” between God and man.

Tertullian: The Logos mixes with the matter “as honey does the honeycomb.”

Copleston though, warns: “But we are not entitled to suppose that Heraclitus regarded the One, Fire, as a personal God, any more than Thales or Anazimenes regarded Water or Air as a personal God: Heraclitus was a pantheist, just as the Stoics in later times were pantheists. It is, however, true that the conception of God as the immanent, ordering Principle of all things, together with the moral attitude of acceptance of events as the expression of divine Law, tends to produce a psychological attitude that is at variance with what would seem to be logically demanded by the theoretical identification of God with the cosmic unity.”[3]

Criminey, I worked in West Philly and a lot of them would have had to pay me! I guess that is the danger of crack, the good part is where else can you buy a $5 TV?

This, of course, is an example of retrofitting. Logos here does not mean word. Read the stoics, namely Marcus Aurelieus.

My example for this was regarding the bible, to make it easier for you:
1. Most people who respect the bible, have not actually read what it says- that is not a religious value/belief it is a scientific one.
2. The message of the bible is not the medium (ie- the bible is the medium, in and of itself it is not the message)- that is a religious value/belief

I just gave you an example of a religious and non-religious value; perhaps you can do the same or is my twig too big for your branch? (that didn't sound right) and am I off drive a half hour to see my youngest son for 5 minutes- is that a religious or non-religious value? Did you see the Almay PSA "throw like a girl"

Because some are some aren't

Just saying...

BTW- since you didn't ask, my religious belief in this matter is that the medium is not the message ( I give extra points to those who know the reference)

LOL, did you catch that- she used the word caste. Just shows how Marx is still more relevant than Friedman. Recent history demonstrates that when a nation militarizes its police it is because thy plan on adopting Friedman's ideas and they need to suppress the masses from opposing them

Gospel and Acts[edit]
See also: Judas Iscariot
In Matthew 27:3-8 , Judas returns the bribe Christians believe he had immorally accepted for handing over Jesus, throwing the money into the temple before hanging himself. The temple priests, unwilling to return the defiled money to the treasury,[104] used it instead to buy a field known as the Potter's Field, as a plot in which to bury strangers. In Acts 1:18 , on the other hand, Judas, having not committed suicide out of guilt, used the bribe money to buy the field himself, and his death in the field is attributed thus: "falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his intestines gushed out."

Raymond E. Brown points to the obvious contradiction: "Luke's account of the death of Judas in Acts 1:18 is scarcely reconcilable with Matt 27:3-10."[105] Harmonization of the two accounts has been tried since ancient times[106] and occasionally still today.[107] However, modern scholars tend to find these unconvincing,[108] pointing out, for instance, the absence of any indication of suicide in the story in Acts.[109]

Mt belief and this is not a religious belief is the same as my old theology professor- people who respect the bible have not actually read it

Prozac is the classical example. The body wants homeostasis. When Prozac leaves too much serotonin in the synapses, the brain senses this and stops making serotonin. The end result is no real change in serotonin levels. I do advocate people not using medications, however you should know that both NIH and NIMH are frustrated and want to pursue other avenues of research besides psychoactive medications to more effectively treat mental health disorders. Reference Dr. Peter Breggin

See, one cannot escape one's own nature or hide it behind semantics. BTW, did Judas hang himself or fall head first and burst his guts open- I don't understand the contradictions between Matthew and Luke either. People need to be taught hate

I now many celibate homosexuals, if you know what I mean

Typo- I DO NOT find bans on incest....

Who is promoting homosexuality- just because they want to legalize it on equal footing, does not mean promoting it, it means equal rights- familiar with that term? Sexual orientation follows a Bell curve- few people are 100% homosexual and few are 100% heterosexual, most are in-between.

See Cowboy says its a "sin"- ergo religious belief. Maybe I miss your point?

There is a difference between homosexual behaviour and homosexuality

8 Factors That Are Lowering the Price of Buying Sex
New Economist report reveals the hourly rate of sex is in steady decline.
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A new report released this week by The Economist has provided a stark look into sex work globally to reveal some surprising new economic trends about the world’s oldest profession. After analyzing 190,000 profiles of sex workers in over 12 countries and 84 cities since 1999, the report found that the hourly price of sex with a female sex worker has been declining steadily in recent years. In 2006, the average cost of sex was approximately $340, yet almost a decade on, sex can now be purchased for about $260 an hour on average.

While this reduction has in part been blamed on the financial crisis, here’s a list of eight additional factors cited in the report that have influenced the going rate of commercial sex work today – for better and for worse.

1. Increased Migration

According to The Economist report, large-scale migration is perhaps the greatest reason why sex worker prices have decreased in recent times. The growing number of sex workers from the Baltic region, Eastern Europe, Nigeria and Thailand has seen the price of sex work fall world-wide as poorer immigrants moving into rich cities tend to demand less money for sex services, especially where the market is closed. In turn, this has made the going rate harder to sustain.

In Germany, for example, sex worker prices have been dropping since prostitution became legalized in 2002. This largely unregulated market which draws some 1.2 million customers daily has seen an influx of migrants mostly from Eastern Europe which has pushed down the hourly rate of pay, making it difficult for locals to compete. Interestingly, the report contends that once foreign sex workers adapt to the local cost of living, their rates do tend to increase.

2. Physical Appearance

Not surprisingly, physical attraction matter a great deal when it comes to the purchase of sex, with those who conform to the “stereotypical Western beauty” able to charge the highest hourly rates overall, according to the study. The Economistreports that the highest earners have a slim to athletic build with long blond hair and full breasts. In fact, going from flat chested to a D-Cup increases a sex worker’s hourly rate by approximately $40.

Interestingly, hair that is bleached or looks unnatural attracted a lower rate, but was still overall more marketable than brunettes and redheads. Ethnicity also plays a role when it comes to price, which differs based on location. For example in America, black women earn less than white women, whereas in Kuala Lumpur, black women command higher rates.

3. Education

Obtaining a university degree tends to increase a sex worker’s earnings, just as it does for those who work in the conventional labor market. The report shows that graduates earn on average 31 percent more than non-graduates due to more lucrative working patterns rather than high hourly rates.

“Although sex workers with degrees are less likely to work than others in any given week, suggesting that they are more likely to regard prostitution as a sideline, when they do work they see more clients and for longer. Their clients tend to be older men who seek longer sessions and intimacy, rather than a brief encounter,” the studystates.

4. Inexperience

Now here’s an interesting factor: “newbies” who arrive in the U.S sex industry have a tendency of underpricing themselves due to their novice status. Consequently, this has dragged down premiums. In this regard, the report states that in 1988 the price for standard sex services – fellatio and vaginal sex – in Nevada cost around $200 an hour, which with inflation amounts to around $395 today. Yet, according to sex worker and founder of Erotic Service Providers, Maxine Doogan, new sex workers are still charging $200 for those services today and doing far more risky work such as oral sex without condoms, but without charging for the additional services.

5. Technology

Online sex websites have bloomed all over the world in the digital age allowing sex workers to sell their services from home with the added bonus of anonymity making sex work easier to facilitate from home: indoor sex is safer than street walking and has reduced the risk of arrest in those countries where prostitution remains illegal. This has boosted supply by drawing more locals into the sex trade including those who are better educated and more likely to consider entering the biz when it can be arranged discreetly online.

On the other hand, the effect of the Internet is that “traditional forms of prostitution” have suffered such as the red light district in The Netherlands where in the decade preceding 2010 the number of licensed sex workers fell by more than 50 percent due to the growth of sex work advertised online. Although, we suspect this may also have something to do with the increasing human trafficking narrative, which has dominated headlines in recent years and led to many countries tightening their licensing regulations forcing many sex workers underground.

6. Niche Services

Evidently, niche services worldwide attract a higher premium among sex workers than standards sex acts. Those who are willing to take two male clients at once or do threesomes with other women are able to command a higher premium than those who do not, according to the report. What’s more, sex workers who offer **** sex or spanking earn on average $25 or $50 more per hour. Of course, local markets offer their own individual quirks, which racks up higher prices. For example, Japanese sex workers in the red light district offer services such as bubble baths and technical massages which foreigners are willing to pay up to $600 a session.

7. Advertising

There is no question that online advertising has reduced the need for the middleman like pimps and brothels, allowing sex workers to work independently with more flexible hours and allowing them to keep more of their earnings. Yet, it has also raised new costs associated with demand such as hiring managers or assistants to take care of bookings and social media, which are certainly not inexpensive, as the study explains:

“Clients contact sex workers via their websites, by e-mail, through Facebook and Twitter. Some websites allow prostitutes to tell clients whether they are currently available; but that means going online frequently to update their status. Such work is time-consuming, so some prostitutes may end up paying someone to do it for them. For sex workers as much as anyone, time really is money.”

8. Societal Changes

On a larger scale, the changes in social values have also reduced demand to a certain degree. It is now much easier to find casual and adulterous sex than previously. In fact, the cheaters' dating website, Ashley Madison boasts over 27 million members blaring the motto: “Life is Short, Have an Affair.”

In addition, pre-marital sex is no longer taboo and contemporary no-fault divorce laws have made it much simpler to leave an unhappy marriage, which means fewer unsatisfied people are drawn to purchase sex. No-strings attached encounters have also become a whole lot easier to find thanks to phone applications like Tinder, which enables quick hookups, or Peppr in Berlin where users can search for sex by location and browse sex workers by age, bust or dress size.

Jodie Gummow is a senior fellow and staff writer at AlterNet.

Funny I do find bans on incest in many "holy texts"- incest can cause extreme mental/physical damage. So the point you are making is -you feel uncomfortable around homosexual families? I feel uncomfortable around Ohio State fans ( I went to Ohio University), but I don't try to ban or kill them.
I feel uncomfortable around most of my clients (esp- the dementia ones, they are always taking off their clothes, why do they do that and I mean one lady I walked down the hall to the dining room and eight times she dropped her pants- remember, I am pretty much prudish). Social disruption is the cause of post-modernism. So, there is that..... just saying. Plus I just did a double shift and I am tired