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Sat 02/28/09 08:45 PM

That language was actually in the Bush stimulus bill.

I and several others posted it at the time.

But then I guess there were some who wouldn't take the time to read anything they perceived as anti-Bush.

Check it out. Get the facts. That China language is in the Paulson/Bush plan. Please note the date!!

Prior to the election even but...yeah Obama did it right? HA HA

From our friends at dailypaul.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
September 29, 2008

US Homeowners Soon To Be Evicted By Chinese Police Under New Law

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

Russian economists are expressing shock today over a new United States law that will allow for the first time in that nation’s history the
police forces of a foreign Nation to have law enforcement powers over
their citizens.

These powers are specifically being granted to China’s State Security
Police who operate under the Ministry of State Security for the Peoples
Republic of China by the United States as a precondition for the Chinese Governments continued purchasing of US debt as the Americans continue their desperate actions to avert their total economic collapse.

China had previously ordered its banks to halt all lending to the United
States, an action that would totally cripple the American banking
system, and as we can read as reported by the Reuters News Service:

“Chinese regulators have told domestic banks to stop interbank lending
to U.S. financial institutions to prevent possible losses during the
financial crisis, the South China Morning Post reported on Thursday.

The Hong Kong newspaper cited unidentified industry sources as saying the instruction from the China Banking Regulatory Commission (CBRC) applied to interbank lending of all currencies to U.S. banks but not to banks from other countries.

"The decree appears to be Beijing's first attempt to erect defences
against the deepening U.S. financial meltdown after the mainland's major lenders reported billions of U.S. dollars in exposure to the credit
crisis," the SCMP said.”

Not being understood by the American people is that China is the holder of over $1.4 Trillion of US debt backed by the mortgages on the homes and property of tens of millions these people which, in essence, makes the Chinese one of the largest holders of land in the United States, and which the Chinese government has stated they will protect ‘at all costs’.

In rapid response to China’s demands that they be granted immediate
access to their American properties to protect their ‘investments’, the
United States is enacting a new law titled the Emergency Economic
Stabilization Act of 2008, and which in Section 101, Paragraph 7:3
chillingly states:

“Designating financial institutions as financial agents of the Federal
Government, and such institutions shall perform all such reasonable
duties related to this Act as financial agents of the Federal Government
as may be required.”

The United States Federal Reserve has further notified the China
Development Bank, the second largest bank in Asia and the main holder of US mortgage debt instruments, that they will be designated by the US Secretary of the Treasury as one of the financial institutions protected by this extraordinary new law, and which, according to these reports, will empower Chinese policing authorities the right to act as law enforcement officers in the United States including granting them the right to evict American citizens from homes whose mortgage debt is held by China.

Unfortunately for these American people, their own public officials have
totally abandoned them as the American Center for Responsive Politics
has reported that the staggering amount of $2 Billion has been paid by
the perpetrators of this Global financial crisis to US Lawmakers, of
both political parties, to sell out their fellow countrymen as virtual
economic slaves to the all powerful International corporate cartels who
now rule over them.

Even worse for these people is that the plan instituted and carried out
over these past 40 years to erase their true history leaves virtually
none of them today with the full, and monstrous, century old plan to
destroy their Nation, and which began with almost the exact same
economic crisis they are experiencing today, and was called the Panic of 1907, and of which we can read:

“The Panic of 1907, also known as the 1907 Bankers' Panic, was a
financial crisis which occurred in the United States when the stock
market fell close to 50% from its peak in the previous year. At the time
the economy was in recession and there were numerous runs on banks and trust companies. The panic's primary cause was a retraction of loans by a number of banks in New York City, and the sentiment quickly spread across the nation leading to the closures of both state and local banks and businesses.”

So shocked were the American people by the Panic of 1907 that they
allowed for the first time since their Nations founding, their lawmakers
to begin the process of establishing a Central Banking System, and of
which one of their founding fathers, and writer of the Declaration of
Independence, Thomas Jefferson, warned all future generations of
Americans:

“The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility
existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an
Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If
the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and
corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of
all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the
continent their Fathers conquered.”

Today, and sadly, the World is now witnessing these prophetic words of Thomas Jefferson coming true.

Even worse, these American people, whose ancestors laid the foundation for what was once the greatest and freest Nation on Earth, have now been reduced to what is now commonly referred to as “sheeple”, “a term of disparagement, a portmanteau created by combining the words "sheep" and "people." It is often used to denote persons who acquiesce to authority, and thus undermine their own human individuality. The implication of sheeple is that as a collective, people believe whatever they are told, especially if told so by authority figures, without processing it to be sure that it is an accurate representation of the real world around them.”

It goes without saying, of course, that these Americans do not see
themselves in this most truest of lights as they continue living their
lives in near total ignorance of the greater catastrophes soon to befall
them, all of which they have been, and are continued to be, warned
about. But, they continue to laugh off, and spurn, these warnings as
they continue to believe the lies being fed them by their propaganda
media organs they never seem to realize are nothing but the mouthpieces for the fascist corporate forces delivering them to the slaughterhouses they will come to know all too soon.







Well since Obama-Jo-Mamma is a Bush Clone, just like Bill & Hillaery Cocane Clinton, then yes this would be just the Obama-Jo-Mamma 10% add on to that part of the deal to sink The USA that started way back in 1918... :noway:

::banana:: But these day's things are becoming very personal...

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Sat 02/28/09 02:56 PM


what does this have to do with why it's SO important to dis-arm americans?


Your distracting me rose.
What happened to just looking pretty??













::banana:: Fanta, I ALWAYS LOOK PRITTY!!!, am I not your close and most trusted Friend Gary ??? ::banana::

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Sat 02/28/09 02:37 PM

America taxed goods at the docks for years. It wasnt until the late 70's that they were lifted. We were not Communist then. In fact we are closer to communism now than then!

The taxes at the docks, protective tariffs, were designed to enable American Companies to compete with foreign companies who could sell their products cheaper.

The foreign companies have cheap labor, often child labor, and do not have environmental laws and safety considerations to contend with.

The tariffs also secured American jobs here at home.
When they were lifted the first to go were textile jobs. Since we have lost Auto, steel, and electronics jobs.
We have turned from a manufacturing based economy into a service based one, and Americans have suffered.
The middle class has dwindled and the value of the dollar declined.





::banana:: Yes Fanta, all of that is 100% TRUE and correct...

BUT, are we to simply roll over and be DEAD, or are we to give China those who sold us down the river...


The Eastern Cities are among some of the most poluted places on earth, I say give China Washingto DC and all the Crooks that have sold we the people down the river...

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Sat 02/28/09 02:13 PM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Sat 02/28/09 02:15 PM




I just Love this... ::banana::


:noway: Obama-Jo-Mamma and Hillary-Cocane-Clinton just GRANTED EMINANT DOMANE TO The Peoples Republic of China over Hawaii and California, So Far...

So even if your home has been paid for for generations, CHINA can toss you ot on the street...

I sure hope all you people enjoyed all that Chinese unk you got at all those Big Box Stores...

Do you now understand why it is SO important to Dis Arm The Ameican People ???


I expect the bulk of you to compleatly ignore this, because you think it dose not effect you, directly, But you know, sooner or later it will...



Gary,,,,

Whats up wildman?


Are we going to go down that road again, Gary?noway noway noway






Fanta I so use to being ignored by all of you other Posters that I just went out and fed the goats...



Obama-Jo-Mamma has convinced Congress that WE-The Sheeple are about to REVOLT against our Plutocratic Form of Government, so they are taking syeps to remove our GUNS, then they can do as they please as they deem is defencless, But I thought you were a Bow Hunter Fanta, I enjoy a Partical Beam as long as I can generate power I can hit anything I like...

Powder and shot is good, But we can do so much better...

The concept of Invasion, is normaly combined with Violent REVOLT...

So China is to come up through Mexico and Take Texas,New Mexico,Colorado,Utah,Nevada,Idaho,
Oregon,California and Arizona, that is the Mexican wet-dream of Azitlan...

Hawaii is just a sitting Duck, as is Guam and Diego Garcia...

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Sat 02/28/09 01:18 PM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Sat 02/28/09 01:20 PM

I just Love this... ::banana::


:noway: Obama-Jo-Mamma and Hillary-Cocane-Clinton just GRANTED EMINANT DOMANE TO The Peoples Republic of China over Hawaii and California, So Far...

So even if your home has been paid for for generations, CHINA can toss you ot on the street...

I sure hope all you people enjoyed all that Chinese unk you got at all those Big Box Stores...

Do you now understand why it is SO important to Dis Arm The Ameican People ???


I expect the bulk of you to compleatly ignore this, because you think it dose not effect you, directly, But you know, sooner or later it will...

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Fri 12/19/08 01:49 PM

JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

can this be true?

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=134286




JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

By Jon Christian Dryer

October 3, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in the matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the world was distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis. Obama signed a breathe of relief as the mainstream media chose to ignore the question: "Can Senator Barack Hussein Obama legally seek the office of President of the United States?"

The flap began in June when National Review's Jim Geraghty raised the question and asked the Obama Campaign to release a copy of his birth certificate in order to prove that he actually was born in the United States. (Reports had previously surfaced claiming that Obama's Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Hussein Obama, told reporters that Obama was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya. She reportedly told reporters that when her son, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. returned to Kenya he was accompanied by a pregnant white wife who was close to term.)

Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama well according to Sarah Obama because she was white. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby was born in Kenya and that shortly after Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii.

Purportedly, when she arrived back in Hawaii, Stanley Anne registered her son's live birth as an event which had just happened—in Hawaii. This supposition is based on the appearance, shortly after Nov. 6, 2007, of a Hawaiian birth certificate that was issued, as a duplicate birth certificate, by the State of Hawaii to a US Senator who requested it.

While the Internet screamed that the birth certificate, which appeared on the Obama Campaign's "Fight The Smears" website and was also downloaded and used by far left blogger Markos Zuniga on his website, Daily Kos, it was not an electronic image concocted by Daily KOs as was hypothesized by a self-described cyvbersleuth who uses the cyber pseudonym Techdude. It was the real McCoy—even if it was issued as a political favor to a prospective Democratic presidential candidate by a Democrat official in Hawaii. The county clerk who issued the document, which purports to be a copy of an original document, was date stamped "Nov. 6, 2007" on the reverse side of the birth certificate in blue ink which bled through and is visible on the front of the electronic image.

Attorney Philip J. Berg, the former head of the Montgomery County. Pennsylvania Democratic Party and a former member of the Democratic State Convention and, reportedly a Hillary Clinton supporter, wanted to learn the truth from the myriad of rumors that also suggested that Sen. Obama may also have been a citizen of Indonesia. The only consistent part of the story was Stanley Ann returning to Hawaii to claim he had been in the United States and was a US citizen. In his ruling, Judge Surrick noted that the "...cause came before the United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick on defendant Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee's motion to dismiss." The order continued, "Having reviewed the motion and plaintiff's opposition to said motion and for good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that the motion to dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is denied. It is further order of this court that the following discovery is to be turned over to plaintiff within three (3) days.

1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) birth certificate; and
2. a certified copy of Obama's Certificate of Citizenship;
3. a certified copy of Obama's oath of allegiance."

In his original filing, Berg specifically asked for those three items. Berg told the court that "...at the time Plaintiff's complaint was filed, Plaintiff was requesting protections from the court in order to stop Obama from being nominated by the DNC as the Democratic Presidential Nominee as Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States. However, Obama was nominated by the DNC...For that reason, Plaintiff must amend his complaint and will be amending this complaint to file a First Amendment complaint...."

Berg argued that he felt it was the role of the Federal Election Commission to ensure that presidential and congressional candidates are eligible to hold the positions for which they were seeking, and that those candidates run a fair and legitimate campaign. "In vetting the presidential candidate," Berg argued, "the DNC and the FEC are required to ensure the eligibility requirements pursuant to our Constitution are met and the Presidential nominee, if elected, is qualified and eligible to serve pursuant to our United States Constitution. In order to be eligible to run for the Office of President of the United States, you must be a "natural born" citizen.

"There appears to be no question that Defendant Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a US citizen. It is also undisputed, however, that his father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a citizen of Kenya. Obama's parents, according to divorce recorded, were married on or about February 2, 1961.

"Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. reports reflect that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii. at her late stage of pregnancy (which apparently are normal restrictions, to avoid births during flights). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama's birth. There are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii."

Berg's investigators revealed that Obama's own half-sister Maya Soetoro—with whom he was raised—seemed not to know where her own brother was born. In the Nov., 2004 interview by the Rainbow Newsletter Maya Soetoro said Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961 at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. In February, 2008 Maya was interviewed by the Star Bulletin. This time she told reporters that Obama was born on August 4, 1961 at the Kaliolani Medical Center for Women and Children. On June 9, 2008 Wayne Madsen, a journalist with Online Journal published an article in which he said a research team went to Mombassa, Kenya and located a Certificate registering the live birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a US citizen.

Berg's argument to the court was that under the US Nationality Act of 1940, Section 317 (b), a minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship status of his or her custodial parent. In Obama's case, Berg argued, a minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship status of his or her custodial father. Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetora signed a statement acknowledging Obama as his son, giving Obama natural Indonesian citizenship, which explains the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian. Loss of US citizenship, under US law in effect in 1967 required that foreign citizenship be achieved through "application." Which, according to Berg, is precisely what happened to Obama when his mother married Soetoro and the family moved to Indonesia.

When Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia, Obama had already been enrolled in school—something that could not have happened under Indonesian law if Soetoro had not signed an acknowledgment (the application) affirming that Obama was his son, it deemed his son to an Indonesian State citizen. (Citizenship of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 9 of 1992 dated 31 mar. 1992, Indonesia Civil Code): "...State children of Indonesia include: (viii) children who are born outside of legal marriage from foreign State citizen mother who are acknowledged by father who is Indonesian State citizen as his children and that acknowledgment is made prior to children reaching 18 years of age or prior to marriage; Republic of Indonesia Constitution, 1945." Furthermore, under Indonesian law, if a resident Indonesian citizen married a foreigner—in this case, Lolo Soetoro marrying Stanley Ann Obama—she was required to renounce her US citizenship.

In his lawsuit, Berg demanded a copy of Obama's Certificate of Citizenship, a document Obama must have applied for to regain his citizenship—which was lost in Indonesia. He will have that document only if the proper paperwork was filed with the US State Department when Obama returned to Hawaii in 1971 since that is the only way Obama could regain his US "natural born" status. Berg is convinced that Obama was never naturalized in the United States after his return. Obama returned to his maternal grandparents in Hawaii without his mother. Since she is the only one who could have filed for the reinstatement of his citizenship, it is unlikely it ever happened. If it did, his Certificate of Citizenship would affirm his right to seek the office of President. Without it, Barack Obama is just another resident alien who can't legally hold his seat in the US Senate.






Honestly, this is NOT just on The Internet...


George Herbert Walker Bush was Natural Born in Austria, adopted by A bush that was convicted of Trading with The Enemy in WW2 and GHWB was head of The CIA, of which we all know was created out of the old OSS and staffed with hundreds of NAZI WAR Criminals...

So we have The BUSH Dynasty, The Bush Presedentcy, The BUSH Doctrine, Bush Jr. and Direct from Kenya Barrak Husane Obamma
The Next President of THE WORLD/ USA... noway


As for The Birth issue, IT IS NOT AN ISSUE!!!


The bushco boy's have already swept that under the RUG...

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Fri 12/19/08 12:53 PM

figures, Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi have the most ignorant redneck inbred stupid cops in the nation that I've seen. I've worked with them and around them in the past, many do not deserve to work in that capacity. If they do wrong, it is always attempted to cover it up and they will side with their officers even when wrong in order to keep a lid on things.

Cops here will tell you right away, that to protect and serve is not what they do, and it isn't really, they just respond to calls and when they get to one, they will act on it, wrong or not. Many get mad just having to answer a call and planting or setting up people is not beyond them.

Yes, I hate, cops, lawyers, judges, doctors and nurses in general.

The political and legal areas in louisiana are notorious for corruption and scandal


If you are poor or a minority, you go to jail, period. If you have money and clout, or know someone, well, it's never heard of or you get a slight rap on the hand and a don't do that again, it's hard to keep covering it up



noway Texas, George W. Bush country, now we all know that Texasis not where Mr Bush came from, but he was their Governer, so is it any wonder that The Cops in his old state are Just like him ???

I know this thread is about Police incompedance, but the problem stems from somewhere, then again it could be Klan Related,however Texas,Lousiana,Mississippi,Florida are all Bush Country where it is against the law to Vote while Black...

A funny storey about one of those Mississippi Cops, I was on The Train to Tucson Az. one day and there was this short guy in Plad Pants, a Hawaian Shirt and two diffeent shoes of the train and I just had to ask this guy what happened to him???

So this guy tells me that he went to a Police Convention in San Francisco Ca. and when he checked into his Hotel Room and went to take a shower, someone came in and threw all of his clothing,wallet, everything in the Trash and left... :banana:

So, as this guy came out of the shower, there he was Butt Naked in San Francisco, NO MONEY, NO ID,and NO WAY HOME...

This is a Cop, A Mississippi Cop, all I can say is that he got no better than he gives, on a train in plad pants that don't fit,a Hawaian Shirt with 1 button a goofy hat to cover the bald spot and 2 different shoes...

Now you were wondering about Justice for these Texas Cops, well they may never see it in Texas Courts, but worry not, it will catch up to them sooner or later...

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Mon 10/13/08 02:09 PM

noway Just as you were starting to think things could get no worse, What with Crooked Banksters,a Sold out Senate and Congress,a Lame Duck President not to mention 174 WARs in all the Wrong Places, that we may not win and The $700 Billion Down Payment on the $4.5 Trillion
Wall Street Bailout...


Might all this place The USA at a point somewhere past Broke ???


Well, that was just the Tip of The Iceburg, Icing on The Cake so to speak...


smokin Remember Costco,Harbor Frieght all Those Big Box Stores,to sell us all that Chinese JUNK FOR CHEAP PRICES, and all those Great Loans on everything that Money Could Buy and by Not Buying American, we made our factories and jobs GO AWAY forever... :wave:



Not being understood by The American People is that China is Now the holder of $14,Trillion of United States Debt backed by the Homes and property of tens of Millions of Amricans...


So, In rapid response to Chinas demand for access to their American Properties, to protect their investments...


The U.S. Government is enacting a New Law titled The ( Emergancy Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 ), and in section 101 paragraph 7:3 states that The China Development Bank, has the powers to evict Americans from Their Homes and other Property by Chinese Policing Authorities...


Can you say, TROJEN HORSE ???


My question is HOW WILL THIS PLAY OUT, when The Chinese Police try to evict Joe Redneck, A Klan Member, or The Arien Nation,The Hells Anges,La Casa De La Rasa, or The Crips Clubhouse, anyone Remember The ALAMO ??? noway :banana: :wink:





This storey is now posted on JeffRense.com along with a few other tidbits of American opression of her own people... noway






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Sun 10/05/08 03:30 AM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Sun 10/05/08 03:32 AM


someone steered me to this topic and the internet is rife with censoring of this article.

it took a bit to find it.


If this allegation had any validity to it, the McCain camp would be plastering these questions everywhere.

Also, "the internet" is not a single entity capable of censoring anything. The fact that this hasn't circulated more widely is due more to its lack of validity than anything else. But have fun playing conspiracy detective.






:banana: Now let me see if I remember this right,

If you burn him at the stake and he don't BURN, then he's a Democrat...

OR

If you hold him under water and he don't Drownd, then e's a Democrat...


noway So what was the test to show him as an American worthey of Becoming President??? :banana:

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Sat 10/04/08 07:35 PM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Sat 10/04/08 07:38 PM

Well, how do you like us so far?happy





:banana: I was on JustSayHi, but when it transformed into Mingle2 my old account did not make the jump onto Mingle Space...

noway So I am treated like a New Comer and no one will plat with me, but that's OK as I am a solotary Soul... bigsmile

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Sat 10/04/08 07:23 PM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Sat 10/04/08 07:28 PM

That is untill you go to POF,
they just Imposed a new BAN on all Current Events, Politics and Religon Threads... noway

Anyone cought posting any of these sort of Threads, will get an instant 28 day suspention of their Posting privlages... noway

happy I had NO PROBLEMS with this, I smply suggesd that all disgruntled members contact me and I direct them over here and all the other 100% FREE Dating web-sites that I know of with FORUMS...

This might be better that listing 5 of my friends for Mingle2 to invite over here... :banana:

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Sat 10/04/08 06:33 PM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Sat 10/04/08 06:36 PM

JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

can this be true?

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=134286




JUDGE ORDERS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

By Jon Christian Dryer

October 3, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

On September 29, 2008 US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick, the federal magistrate for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania ruled in the matter of Philip J. Berg vs Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the world was distracted by the $700 billion subprime mortgage crisis. Obama signed a breathe of relief as the mainstream media chose to ignore the question: "Can Senator Barack Hussein Obama legally seek the office of President of the United States?"

The flap began in June when National Review's Jim Geraghty raised the question and asked the Obama Campaign to release a copy of his birth certificate in order to prove that he actually was born in the United States. (Reports had previously surfaced claiming that Obama's Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Hussein Obama, told reporters that Obama was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya. She reportedly told reporters that when her son, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. returned to Kenya he was accompanied by a pregnant white wife who was close to term.)

Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama well according to Sarah Obama because she was white. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby was born in Kenya and that shortly after Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii.

Purportedly, when she arrived back in Hawaii, Stanley Anne registered her son's live birth as an event which had just happened—in Hawaii. This supposition is based on the appearance, shortly after Nov. 6, 2007, of a Hawaiian birth certificate that was issued, as a duplicate birth certificate, by the State of Hawaii to a US Senator who requested it.

While the Internet screamed that the birth certificate, which appeared on the Obama Campaign's "Fight The Smears" website and was also downloaded and used by far left blogger Markos Zuniga on his website, Daily Kos, it was not an electronic image concocted by Daily KOs as was hypothesized by a self-described cyvbersleuth who uses the cyber pseudonym Techdude. It was the real McCoy—even if it was issued as a political favor to a prospective Democratic presidential candidate by a Democrat official in Hawaii. The county clerk who issued the document, which purports to be a copy of an original document, was date stamped "Nov. 6, 2007" on the reverse side of the birth certificate in blue ink which bled through and is visible on the front of the electronic image.

Attorney Philip J. Berg, the former head of the Montgomery County. Pennsylvania Democratic Party and a former member of the Democratic State Convention and, reportedly a Hillary Clinton supporter, wanted to learn the truth from the myriad of rumors that also suggested that Sen. Obama may also have been a citizen of Indonesia. The only consistent part of the story was Stanley Ann returning to Hawaii to claim he had been in the United States and was a US citizen. In his ruling, Judge Surrick noted that the "...cause came before the United States District Court Judge, Honorable R. Barclay Surrick on defendant Barack Hussein Obama and the Democratic National Committee's motion to dismiss." The order continued, "Having reviewed the motion and plaintiff's opposition to said motion and for good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that the motion to dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is denied. It is further order of this court that the following discovery is to be turned over to plaintiff within three (3) days.

1. Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) birth certificate; and
2. a certified copy of Obama's Certificate of Citizenship;
3. a certified copy of Obama's oath of allegiance."

In his original filing, Berg specifically asked for those three items. Berg told the court that "...at the time Plaintiff's complaint was filed, Plaintiff was requesting protections from the court in order to stop Obama from being nominated by the DNC as the Democratic Presidential Nominee as Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States. However, Obama was nominated by the DNC...For that reason, Plaintiff must amend his complaint and will be amending this complaint to file a First Amendment complaint...."

Berg argued that he felt it was the role of the Federal Election Commission to ensure that presidential and congressional candidates are eligible to hold the positions for which they were seeking, and that those candidates run a fair and legitimate campaign. "In vetting the presidential candidate," Berg argued, "the DNC and the FEC are required to ensure the eligibility requirements pursuant to our Constitution are met and the Presidential nominee, if elected, is qualified and eligible to serve pursuant to our United States Constitution. In order to be eligible to run for the Office of President of the United States, you must be a "natural born" citizen.

"There appears to be no question that Defendant Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a US citizen. It is also undisputed, however, that his father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a citizen of Kenya. Obama's parents, according to divorce recorded, were married on or about February 2, 1961.

"Defendant Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. on August 4, 1961 and it is uncertain in which hospital he claims to have been born. Obama's grandmother on his father's side, his half-brother and half-sister all claim Obama was born not in Hawaii but in Kenya. reports reflect that Obama's mother traveled to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii. at her late stage of pregnancy (which apparently are normal restrictions, to avoid births during flights). By these reports, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew home and registered Obama's birth. There are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii."

Berg's investigators revealed that Obama's own half-sister Maya Soetoro—with whom he was raised—seemed not to know where her own brother was born. In the Nov., 2004 interview by the Rainbow Newsletter Maya Soetoro said Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961 at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. In February, 2008 Maya was interviewed by the Star Bulletin. This time she told reporters that Obama was born on August 4, 1961 at the Kaliolani Medical Center for Women and Children. On June 9, 2008 Wayne Madsen, a journalist with Online Journal published an article in which he said a research team went to Mombassa, Kenya and located a Certificate registering the live birth of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a US citizen.

Berg's argument to the court was that under the US Nationality Act of 1940, Section 317 (b), a minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship status of his or her custodial parent. In Obama's case, Berg argued, a minor child follows the naturalization and citizenship status of his or her custodial father. Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetora signed a statement acknowledging Obama as his son, giving Obama natural Indonesian citizenship, which explains the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian. Loss of US citizenship, under US law in effect in 1967 required that foreign citizenship be achieved through "application." Which, according to Berg, is precisely what happened to Obama when his mother married Soetoro and the family moved to Indonesia.

When Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia, Obama had already been enrolled in school—something that could not have happened under Indonesian law if Soetoro had not signed an acknowledgment (the application) affirming that Obama was his son, it deemed his son to an Indonesian State citizen. (Citizenship of Republic of Indonesia, Law No. 9 of 1992 dated 31 mar. 1992, Indonesia Civil Code): "...State children of Indonesia include: (viii) children who are born outside of legal marriage from foreign State citizen mother who are acknowledged by father who is Indonesian State citizen as his children and that acknowledgment is made prior to children reaching 18 years of age or prior to marriage; Republic of Indonesia Constitution, 1945." Furthermore, under Indonesian law, if a resident Indonesian citizen married a foreigner—in this case, Lolo Soetoro marrying Stanley Ann Obama—she was required to renounce her US citizenship.

In his lawsuit, Berg demanded a copy of Obama's Certificate of Citizenship, a document Obama must have applied for to regain his citizenship—which was lost in Indonesia. He will have that document only if the proper paperwork was filed with the US State Department when Obama returned to Hawaii in 1971 since that is the only way Obama could regain his US "natural born" status. Berg is convinced that Obama was never naturalized in the United States after his return. Obama returned to his maternal grandparents in Hawaii without his mother. Since she is the only one who could have filed for the reinstatement of his citizenship, it is unlikely it ever happened. If it did, his Certificate of Citizenship would affirm his right to seek the office of President. Without it, Barack Obama is just another resident alien who can't legally hold his seat in the US Senate.







noway Well yes and no, if Obamma Jomamma was born in Kenya, and be comes President of The USA, would that not be how Kenya Conqured The USA ???
noway

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Sat 10/04/08 06:28 PM
As I understand it The USA has Claimed The MOON as well... :wow:

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Fri 10/03/08 01:56 PM

noway Just as you were starting to think things could get no worse, What with Crooked Banksters,a Sold out Senate and Congress,a Lame Duck President not to mention 174 WARs in all the Wrong Places, that we may not win and The $700 Billion Down Payment on the $4.5 Trillion
Wall Street Bailout...


Might all this place The USA at a point somewhere past Broke ???


Well, that was just the Tip of The Iceburg, Icing on The Cake so to speak...


smokin Remember Costco,Harbor Frieght all Those Big Box Stores,to sell us all that Chinese JUNK FOR CHEAP PRICES, and all those Great Loans on everything that Money Could Buy and by Not Buying American, we made our factories and jobs GO AWAY forever... :wave:



Not being understood by The American People is that China is Now the holder of $14,Trillion of United States Debt backed by the Homes and property of tens of Millions of Amricans...


So, In rapid response to Chinas demand for access to their American Properties, to protect their investments...


The U.S. Government is enacting a New Law titled The ( Emergancy Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 ), and in section 101 paragraph 7:3 states that The China Development Bank, has the powers to evict Americans from Their Homes and other Property by Chinese Policing Authorities...


Can you say, TROJEN HORSE ???


My question is HOW WILL THIS PLAY OUT, when The Chinese Police try to evict Joe Redneck, A Klan Member, or The Arien Nation,The Hells Anges,La Casa De La Rasa, or The Crips Clubhouse, anyone Remember The ALAMO ??? noway :banana: :wink:









:banana: Just another fine day in Paradise... :wink:

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Fri 10/03/08 03:38 AM

Geeeeeeeeeez like this is anything new????

You mean you didnt know your azzzzzzzz was owned by the Asians????

You so not smott!!!laugh laugh laugh laugh






:wink: Gypsy, so nice of you to Slide on by... noway

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Fri 10/03/08 12:36 AM

huh :wink: laugh are we naked yet???






:wink: I don't know Gypsy, Are we Naked yet ??? :wink:


I went to POF for a while, wrote the truth and pissed off The Moderator Tickettoride, dose Truth have a home on Mingle2 ???

Or is it all Just a Lost Dream ??? :wink:

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Thu 10/02/08 11:17 PM

god bless our second amendment...





Well Yes, I kinda figured on that option... noway

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Thu 10/02/08 10:56 PM
Edited by cosmotopper69 on Thu 10/02/08 11:09 PM
noway Just as you were starting to think things could get no worse, What with Crooked Banksters,a Sold out Senate and Congress,a Lame Duck President not to mention 174 WARs in all the Wrong Places, that we may not win and The $700 Billion Down Payment on the $4.5 Trillion
Wall Street Bailout...


Might all this place The USA at a point somewhere past Broke ???


Well, that was just the Tip of The Iceburg, Icing on The Cake so to speak...


smokin Remember Costco,Harbor Frieght all Those Big Box Stores,to sell us all that Chinese JUNK FOR CHEAP PRICES, and all those Great Loans on everything that Money Could Buy and by Not Buying American, we made our factories and jobs GO AWAY forever... :wave:



Not being understood by The American People is that China is Now the holder of $14,Trillion of United States Debt backed by the Homes and property of tens of Millions of Amricans...


So, In rapid response to Chinas demand for access to their American Properties, to protect their investments...


The U.S. Government is enacting a New Law titled The ( Emergancy Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 ), and in section 101 paragraph 7:3 states that The China Development Bank, has the powers to evict Americans from Their Homes and other Property by Chinese Policing Authorities...


Can you say, TROJEN HORSE ???


My question is HOW WILL THIS PLAY OUT, when The Chinese Police try to evict Joe Redneck, A Klan Member, or The Arien Nation,The Hells Anges,La Casa De La Rasa, or The Crips Clubhouse, anyone Remember The ALAMO ??? noway :banana: :wink:

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Fri 09/12/08 08:20 PM


Just found out Darwin is buried at Westminster Abbey.

Sponges grow in the ocean.laugh ..that one just kills me. Makes ya wonder how much higher the water table would be.

Unsubstantiated rumor: I heard someone started an "I'm bored" thread while on vacation in Europe.

Your definition of irony?






:banana: Irony, can be a very Weighty, and Metalic Subject Matter... :banana:





:banana: Actually, Irony propperly mixed with Carbon, might just Steal The Show...happy

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Fri 09/12/08 08:07 PM

Just found out Darwin is buried at Westminster Abbey.

Sponges grow in the ocean.laugh ..that one just kills me. Makes ya wonder how much higher the water table would be.

Unsubstantiated rumor: I heard someone started an "I'm bored" thread while on vacation in Europe.

Your definition of irony?






:banana: Irony, can be a very Weighty, and Metalic Subject Matter... :banana: