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volant7
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fema camps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWhejKfhaf8&feature=related pittsburgh shooting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gDvGkjCOqI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFbigbrC3RY&feature=related his friends said he thought they were coming to kill him. he was against the nwo his mom called the police on him and thats what started everything his intentions wernt to kill cops but thats what happened he had guns hidden secretly underground all over his neighborhood his friends say he was very smart and friendly he just hated the nwo they put a gag order on him and his family he got the death sentence but was never allowed to talk no conspiracy here.... move along the end |
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volant7
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Fri 08/12/11 09:36 AM
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Ok you guys want truth, well here it is. If this doesn't open your eyes, not much will. It's about famed "last man" to come out of the trade towers alive, Willy Rodriguez, what he saw, how the government handled what he saw, and much more. You won't get any closer to the real truth than this right here. http://www.galacticroundtable.com/profiles/blogs/exclusive-last-man-out-makes-shocking-9-11-disclosure-1 Wow that was awesome information. !!! I am reading the 9-11 debunking book by popular mechanics now and it does not hold a candle to that information. It has a forward by Senator John McCain written with such typical political rhetoric, trying to sound patriotic. He calls the truth movement "conspiracy mongering." I am wondering what exactly motivates Popular Mechanics to go down this road. Their debunking book is only 170 pages and they very lightly touch upon certain conspiracy theories, skipping over many unanswered questions. I'm still reading it. I will probably get the book that debunks this book today. Your link above should be read by all who want the truth. People who stand for the truth like William Rodriguez, last man out of the tower who saved hundreds of lives.... they are the real heroes because they did not allow themselves to be bribed by those who want to cover up the truth. I am not gonna trust a blog about one man (i did read) when there were thousands of people saved in that building and even more on the streets and areas near by. Bombs powerful enough to knock out the foundations would have been hears from miles around. Not just by him. It would have shaken the whole building to an extent. Noone else seemed to feel the tremors. Also you have to look at the logic. If there were bombs and the government had this super awesome top secret plan why on earth would they blow up bombs before the plane hit? Just to leave some evidence? If truthers claim its near impossible to hit the towers with a plane why would they explode the bombs in advance incase the plane missed? If the structure was ruined at the bottom by bombs why did it collapse 45 minutes later and from the point of impact by the plan and not from the bottom like a demolition and where these "bombs" supposedly were? of course there doesnt have to be a huge explosion.i saw videos and pics of the wtc when it was ruble.the steel was sticking up and cut at a 45 deg angel.i watched many shows on demolition this is how they cut the steel.they dont set off a huge bomb at the base of the building like wylie coyote. they have several small explosions like were heard before the building fell.and when using thermite there would be no explosion. they weaken the steel frame to a point that it can no longer stand up and the building falls straight down.gravity does all of the work. you can see it pouring out of the building in several videos.it was probably damaged when the plane hit dont you know it was blown up years before this? by so called terrorists and the cia/fbi.i saw video of them mixing the explosives yet they didnt know? its not a conspiracy theroy its problem reaction solution theres one great conspiracy behind all these things called the nwo |
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this is just terrible that the pentagon has only one camera set at 1
frame per second.when at the same time my home security camera is 24 frames per second. maybe top secrets at my place would be in better hands lol wow why is your video so small?if that was supposed to prove something make it full screen not tiny.again peoples home webcam videos are bigger.maybe the pentagon needs to scrap a stealth bomber and buy better cameras.lol i just got done watching the show about the norway spree killer and wow. they say he hated muslims but decided to kill rich elite campers instead.why? he wore a mason uniform and a knights templer uniform at the end they talked about the unibomber ted kaczynski and timoty mcveigh and there similaritys they were all crazy right? no they were all against the new world order = so they became public enemy no 1 you should hate these people because the nwo wants to impose a carbon tax on every one left in the world and chip you like animals and track your every move. but instead you hate the people who oppose them.they talked alot about the daycare on the first floor.yet the secretly killed way more children in secret studys. these people are the same people that brought hitler to power.yet there the good guys. when you use your loyalty cards at the stores they dont stay with the stores. your information gos to the people who have the security gate alarms at the doors. Checkpoint and Sensormatic they are tracking everything you and your family buy in every store not just the store you are shopping in at the time. they have been creating a huge data base on you and your family. |
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Cowboy wrote:
Saved from death. But you obviously do not wish to be saved from death and do not care for eternal life. There is no violence in this, it's quite simple.... Matthew 10:32-33 32Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Fiction. Pure Fiction. It's not only fiction, but it's also a quite underhanded and devious attempt at brainwashing people into believing that if they refuse to accept what these authors are saying they will be condemned and rejected by God himself. It's truly emotional terrorism is what it amounts to. It's as devious and as underhanded as a religion can be. Abracadabra of course this makes no sense to you. because you believe in a different god than our GOD. you believe in nature and magic right? |
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volant7
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Um, if those ten things are what your satanists are about, it sounds pretty good to me....except for #1. #1 is their main goal they cant control too many of us plus they will have the world for themselves while you will be crammed into gov ran projects As for global warming most scientists do NOT believe it is BS. They actually believe that there is no evidence to prove that any warming has been due to man's influence. That's a big "we don't know" response from them, not a "we think it's all crap" response. Besides, it generally takes 50 years for a scientific theory to become accept. That's because scientists will test it, try to prove it wrong. When they can't, then they come around to accept its validity. You once mentioned that my "5 minutes" of analysis could not weigh as much as your "30 years of research". You started this at age 11 or 12?  It only takes me 5 minutes to recognize a "false premise" which is a logical fallacy, along with "appeal to ignorance", "circular reasoning", "begging the question", and many others. Truth is, the conspiracy theories are FULL of logical fallacies. A good scientist would recognize this, and you have claimed to be a scientist.
yes i found books my dad had at age 12.they were left behind. he moved out when i was 8.most of the things that were written have already come true http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies Personally, I'm tempted to think even you don't believe anything you say....as if this is a big joke to see how long people will keep arguing over absurdity. This reached "argumentum ad nauseum" a long time ago, yet nothing has been resolved. So, I'm thinking this really is nothing but a big joke. yes your right this is stupid anyone can drive to see THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES.you can see the owls and the pentagrams in dc.the marks are on everything in the stores.bohemian groove has been busted.our town is full of masons that believe that lucifer is god.our economy is collapsing and our money will soon be worthless.everywhere i look i see satanism.they just put a pagan obelisk up at the church and a flag flying higher than the cross.i dont see how anyone can miss this stuff but they have know idea whats going on in the world.but ive come to accept tht most of the world will be fooled.i only have two puzzle pieces left so i can see the big picture.you can knit-pik about how the planes hit or how the buildings collapsed.but in the end you can see that the outcome was that you have lost most of your rights.(patriot act 2) i know there is another attack coming and they will blame the christians and vets and start killing them.they have it set up that you cant review or stop anything for 6 months.you can be pulled from your home with no charges and be held forever.look up FEMA trains,FEMA camps,FEMA coffins.i see the trains line up every night and disappear every morning.most people commit suicide around christmas.thats because it is a satanic holiday.you make them richer by buying crap at there stores.some spend money they dont have.people are stressed out is that what GOD wanted? and if i followed the advice of other famous scientists i wouldnt be running my car off of part water. |
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Oh and on being upset when views aren't seen as "right", I believe there's a black kettle pot in your future......... if you know something post it. i'm not scared to admit when i'm wrong Myself and Jeannie HAVE been, but no one seems to wanna hear it. What exactly do you want? The information is all out there, some of it in plain sight no less. Neither of you have provided a single shred of credible evidence of anything!! 
Just videos and suppositions, half-baked theories, people filming the event, quotes taken out of context...
Those things are not "evidence".
Meanwhile you IGNORE all the actual physical evidence and all the expert reports which completely discredit the conspiracy theories!
It's a good time. 
At least Jeannie says she is going to read the scientific reports with an open mind. I'm sure if she does that she will realize that all the conspiracy theories are indeed a big load of bunk.
were supposed to believe your experts from faux news? al gore scientific facts? most scientists believe global warming is bs but people are brainwashed by the media 911 was mass hypnosis 911 was an inside job 911 was mass hypnosis 911 was an inside job 911 was mass hypnosis 911 was an inside job 911 was mass hypnosis 911 was an inside job thats the fact the cia/fbi helped the terrorist blow it up the first time the oklahoma city bombing was an inside job they helped him blow it up thats the fact the world is controlled by satanists they plan to kill 90% of you you will be slaves in the new world order THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. 2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity. 3. Unite humanity with a living new language. 4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason. 5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts. 6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court. 7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. 8. Balance personal rights with social duties. 9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite. 10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature. this is what there trying to accomplish this is why everything is about nature/recycling they want to replace the 10 commandments with their satanic crap they own everything and are slowly poisoning your food and drinks read the ingredients read the ingredients they are the cancer of the earth you are there enemy http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Message.htm |
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so no one knew anything in advance.
yet they took out massive amounts of insurance against terrorism two months before the attacks. some offices were cleared out completely. the pentagon wing that they hit was under construction rockafellers got front row seats in a building nearby all kind of illegal trading went on right before the planes hit p.s. people of congress have stopped paying their taxes now they have taken out the key ingredient in fertilizer to make food grow (no its not nitrogen)
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of course the bible makes no sense to pagans. faith holds the key. the
way it is written you will never understand it without faith. of course were not trying to convert you only you can do that and there seems to be less people that believe in GOD than ever before in my lifetime.were here to spread the word of GOD so that people that want to understand.how can you worship false pagan gods that do nothing for you? yet you denounce GOD who gives us eternal life. hes 23 your 62 so give him a break. he was just brainwashed in school for 13 years and countless hours of tv and movies.it didnt make sense what they were teaching in school and now i see why. |
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This official 9-11 report reads like a movie script more than an official report. They could easily make a movie out of it.
that because it was a movie with wonderful hollywood special effects. just like bluebeam will be |
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Edited by
volant7
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i saw video of the cia/fbi helping them make bigger explosives the
first time they blew it up. why would they show them how to make a bigger bomb? why wouldnt they stop them? timothy McVeigh same thing. they had bigger bombs already planted in the building. why would he show up with a truck bomb if he already hid more explosive bombs inside. same people investigated 911 you can talk about anything on tv except the nwo/satanic plan there was a guy here in pittsburgh shot 3 cops his friends say he was against the nwo and thought they were coming to kill him. they put a gag order on him and gave him the death penalty he didnt even get to talk dont worry they did the talking for him they said he was crazy and hated cops not the nwo i just happened to be up when they were live at 7 am then someone stepped in and changed things you mention nwo here and they look at you crazy like they dont exist. look at the building on 911 shaped like a pyramid on top by the towers. they had front row seats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCyOWLrRTE |
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And again since you didn't answer the question the first time. If a person is a total saint their entire life, not even telling one white lie, why do bad things happen to them?
Do you think such a person exists? Do you know what that person thinks about? Do you have any examples of such an incident occurring other than the mythical story of Jesus? because then only fools would go to hell. GOD made satan so that you could know the difference between good and bad.if only bad things happened to bad people.who in there right mind would be bad.and only good things would happen to good people.this is how i used to think.brainwashed was i. i heard a noise, helped a lady up, and walked her home, come home went to sleep, woke up the next day, my windows in my truck were shot out. thats karma later i found out the insurance co would replace them for $100 deduct i found out the reason for all the trouble in the world everything is run by satanists.the stores you shop in. the products you buy. your leaders and heros. your movie stars and musicians. your churches and holidays. almost everything. |
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Jessie Ventura: Goes to show you how mad people are with politicians when they elected that num nut into office. I do like what he says in this video though.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related He made the interviewer look like idiots. Reporters are usually not very bright. Jesse Ventura the proven liar. Figures you would take what he says as gospel. I never take what anyone says as gospel. But if they say something i like, I listen. He made that reporter look like a fool. I liked that.
He's a proven LIAR, anything he says or does isn't credible, even if he makes someone look like a fool. He;; the guy couldn't act and can't keep a job. He lasted how long in the WWF or how long in politics?
yep he was a governor and now he lives in mexico what does that tell you you forgot he was vietnam veteran too. not to wish you death or anything like that but if your so right that were all crazy. why dont you enlist and go fight these so called terrorists then you can be a veteran oh by the way did you figure out that the fda is letting these food and water companys poison you yet? |
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public spankings lol
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I'm still waiting for any response my post of the official report on why the towers fell. If it is not the official report printed in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE, in press 9/13/01, then I am still waiting for someone to post a link to the official report. Metalwing's own peer review was critical of the original report and he seemed to agree (with me) that it was flawed. But now all I get is silence. From everyone who thinks the debunker show, which is the topic of this thread, was actually successful at debunking anything, good luck next time. Here are the official reports with references. http://architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm Why the World Trade Center Towers Fell on September 11 Engineers tell why the World Trade Center twin towers collapsed By Jackie Craven, About.com Guide In the years since September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York City, engineers and other experts have been studying the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. By examining the collapse step-by-step, experts are learning how buildings fail, and discovering ways we can build stronger structures. What Caused the Twin Towers to Fall? 1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building. 2. Heat from the Fires The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F. This is not hot enough to melt structural steel. However, engineers say that for the World Trade Center towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength. Steel will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel will also become distorted when heat is not a uniform temperature. 3. Collapsing Floors Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they pancaked. This means that floors crashed down on floors with increasing weight and momentum, crushing each successive floor below. With the weight of the plunging floors building force, the exterior walls buckled. Seriously? About.com? That is not an official report or even close to a government website.
Like I said - "Read the references" About.com's synopsis is based on the list of official references which they give in their website article! I just cited the about.com article as a convenient place to find all the official reports. But for convenience I will copy and paste them here: (from the about.com synopsis) 911 Commission Report http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=34&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=151&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm WTC and 911 Engineering Design Issues http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=217&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf Truth about the WTC attacks http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842?page=4 NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html
why would i believe the 911 Commission Report i might as well ask bin laden FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study fema are the other liers ....fema NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse we cant trust PBS anyumore either
Yeah right. ALL the reputable scientific community articles are lies even though they carefully document all their evidence and support all their statements and conclusions with facts. While on the other hand the conspiracy theorists and truthers who have no evidence and only wild speculations and whose arguments are easily shot down are considered more valid.
Aw C'mon Now!
im an electronics tech and a scientist. i guess you would believe al gore over me. but why wouldnt you i dont have a noble peace prize like him and obama and i have never met the queen beast look at all the science behind global warming after ww 1 why couldnt they figure a way not to have ww 2 or ww 3? i might be be smart and handsome but im not here to fool anyone. i have plenty of evidence and plenty of people that know me understand but you dont |
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im sorry to see that you and your partner got hurt.
how much was the cap worth? |
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um GOD gave you the ten commandments and said keep the sabbath holy.
if you do these things you will live a better life. you dont think your smarter than GOD. he has the perfect plan for you. of course you have free will. the choice is yours to follow his plan or not. if you live your life by his word i dont see how it could ever harm you. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved http://www.4laws.com/laws/englishkgp/ |
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I'm still waiting for any response my post of the official report on why the towers fell. If it is not the official report printed in the Journal of Engineering Mechanics ASCE, in press 9/13/01, then I am still waiting for someone to post a link to the official report. Metalwing's own peer review was critical of the original report and he seemed to agree (with me) that it was flawed. But now all I get is silence. From everyone who thinks the debunker show, which is the topic of this thread, was actually successful at debunking anything, good luck next time. Here are the official reports with references. http://architecture.about.com/od/disastersandcollapses/a/twintowerfall.htm Why the World Trade Center Towers Fell on September 11 Engineers tell why the World Trade Center twin towers collapsed By Jackie Craven, About.com Guide In the years since September 11, 2001 terrorist attack in New York City, engineers and other experts have been studying the collapse of the World Trade Center towers. By examining the collapse step-by-step, experts are learning how buildings fail, and discovering ways we can build stronger structures. What Caused the Twin Towers to Fall? 1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building. 2. Heat from the Fires The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F. This is not hot enough to melt structural steel. However, engineers say that for the World Trade Center towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength. Steel will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel will also become distorted when heat is not a uniform temperature. 3. Collapsing Floors Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they pancaked. This means that floors crashed down on floors with increasing weight and momentum, crushing each successive floor below. With the weight of the plunging floors building force, the exterior walls buckled. Seriously? About.com? That is not an official report or even close to a government website.
Like I said - "Read the references" About.com's synopsis is based on the list of official references which they give in their website article! I just cited the about.com article as a convenient place to find all the official reports. But for convenience I will copy and paste them here: (from the about.com synopsis) 911 Commission Report http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=34&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=151&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.fema.gov/rebuild/mat/wtcstudy.shtm WTC and 911 Engineering Design Issues http://architecture.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=architecture&cdn=homegarden&tm=217&f=11&su=p284.12.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=0&st=8&zu=http%3A//www.civil.usyd.edu.au/latest/aibs_2002_wtc.pdf Truth about the WTC attacks http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/1227842?page=4 NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/world-trade-center-collapse.html
why would i believe the 911 Commission Report i might as well ask bin laden FEMA WTC Bldg Performance Study fema are the other liers ....fema brought to you by Katrina NOVA PBS Segment World Trade Center Collapse we cant trust PBS anyumore either what happened to your wonderful popular mechanics lol HITLER NEWS DAILY......NEWS YOU CAN TRUST FAUX NEWS......FAIR AND BALANCED AS LONG AS ITS OUR AGENDA I HAVE TO POST THE SAME STUFF BECAUSE YOU DONT SEE IT so have we figured out yet why the building that was hit 2nd collapsed first and you can see what appears to be thermite pouring out of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz0_x7313I Jesse Ventura will kick your ssa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORMuta4JCE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs&feature=related |
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volant7
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so have we figured out yet why the building that was hit 2nd collapsed
first and you can see what appears to be thermite pouring out of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mz0_x7313I Jesse Ventura will kick your ssa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9mbotpeuJM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ORMuta4JCE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWZHKIg3Cs&feature=related |
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there was no bombs, NO BOMB materials, no wires, NOTHING found by any of the 1000's of clean up crews.... i guess they are Cheney's demons? The area was top secret. Only authorized by FEMA. Of course they didn't claim to find anything. They covered it up. If they did find anything, they got rid of it. jb these people are either idiots or getting paid to post propaganda bs here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKeq7ss4hUU |
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theres a 30 ft tall stone owl at Bohemian groove.
if you line up the lines what does it look like? lol http://molech.com/ http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nJ8iAvdJthg/TdhHkDQXP-I/AAAAAAAAAwk/p6s5dZI0xb8/s1600/molech.jpg turn down volume first http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMMImXbcj2s |
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