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What Kind of Pagan Are You?
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I think I'm a 6 and 11.
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I always felt that I wasn't the same as everyone else in my family. I have always had this feeling in my heart that the religion I was being taught was a little off for me. As I got older and developed my own mind I started to research different religions to find one that would fit my beliefs and how I felt inside. I was told that in a past life that I was a witch that was burned at the steak and that is why I find it very hard for me to be willing to comeforth and about my religion. I have been following my path now for about 9 years.
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Is Christianity Immoral?
Edited by
rday
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But there is also the ugliness of faith. Faith/religion drives people to do things that are unethical (war, genocide, etc.) because they believe that God is on their side. The only tangible evidence of the existence of God is the Scriptures, but when the history of the scriptures is delved into, even these are corrupt. For instance, the Virgin Mary. This would be considered an important event in those times, but was not added to scripture until 342 A.D. The scriptures have been translated from dead languages, to other dead languages, to the interpretations of monarchs, to what we see today.Christianity borrows from other religions (i.e. the story of the egyptian god Horus in regards to Jesus), and from the true preachers of the christian Bible, it preaches to followers to yearn for the end of the world. Believing in God brings about a sense of elitism. "i believe in God, therefore, when i die/the rapture comes, I will ascend to heaven. You will not if you believe in another religion, so I will go to heaven and you all can go to hell." Christianity takes away from the beauty of humanity. Christianity teaches that there is no moral basis without the belief in God, but humans are creatures of instinct. There is one question that I ask anyone willing to answer. Name one ethical thing that a Christian can accomplish that an atheist cant. By scientific/logical definition, the validity of Christianity doesn't quite hold up. Accounts told by those that have not seen said events with their own eyes, but recounting what they heard about someone else, many years ago, or a decade or two prior to the writings, based on heresay, not first-hand accounts. The christian bible speaks of many immoral practices (genocide, genital mutilation, slavery, rape, murder, human sacrifice, war, vicarious redemption) which is all approved by God. Religion is a poison that corrupts whatever it touches, and until we dissolve ourselves of these Bronze-Age superstitions, as a species, we will never reach our full potential. Whoooooooaaaaa take a deep breath and relax.You brought up many points that could take a great deal of time to get to but I can debunk all of it. About the bible... Books written by people thousands of years ago hold their justification on accuracy by how the copies of the bible compare to the original.If people are going to manipulate and change the bible to fit their own agenda the stories would be different then the orginal bible verses.Add to this many different people writing stories about the bible from different times and places and it would be very difficult to gather these same stories from different people and have them all come to the same conclusion which they did.In summary if you take the oldest Christian bibles ever found and compare them to the current day Christian bible they will have the same content which dates those events to the time they happened. The original Christian bible was written about 30 years after Chirst's death.That means that there would be tens of thousands of people still alive to read the bible and question it's accuracy(including Kings and Priest).If there was stories that was not true the people would have revolted and protested as they were living witnesses.The bible would have been burned if it was anything other than the truth. What about the witnesses?If you are going to call the bible false and say nothing ever happened then you might as well just toss out all history dating prior to the invention of photography because it is all just witness testamony. All these prophecies were written before Jesus was born and all came true. I. General Prophecies Concerning the Coming of Jesus Gen. 49:10; Mic. 5:2 - a kingdom and ruler of Israel shall come from Judah - Mattt. 1:1-2, Luke 3:23,33 - Jesus is from the line of Judah. Deut. 18:18 - He will be raised up as a prophet - Matt. 21:11, Luke 7:16; John 6:14; 7:40 - Jesus is identified as this prophet. Psalm 2:6 - He will be a King - Matt. 21:5; John 18:36-37 - Jesus is this King. Psalm 2:7 - you are my Son, today I have begotten you - Matt. 3:17; Acts 13:33 - God the Father said this about Jesus the Son. Psalm 69:4; Isaiah 49:7 - He will be hated without a cause - John 15:25 - Jesus was hated without a cause. Psalm 69:9 - zeal for thy house has consumed me - John 2:16-17 - zeal consumed Jesus as He drove out the traders. Psalm 78:2 - He will speak in parables - Matt. 13:34-35 - Jesus spoke in parables. Psalm 110:1; Jer. 23:6 - He will be called Lord - Matt. 22:43-45; Luke 2:11; Heb. 1:10 - Jesus is called Lord by the Lord. Psalm 118:22; Isaiah 8:14; 28:16 - He will be the stone rejected by the builders - Acts 4:10-11; Rom. 9:32-33; 1 Peter 2:7-8 - Jesus is the stone rejected by the builders. Psalm 118:26; Hag.2:7-9; Mal. 3:1 - He will come to the Temple - Matt. 21:12; John 2:13-17 - Jesus so came to the Temple. Psalm 132:11; Jer. 23:5 - He, the king, shall come from the House of David - Matt. 1:1; Luke 3:23,31 - Jesus is the son of David. Isaiah 6:9-10 - they hear but do not understand and see but do not perceive - Matt. 13:14-15; John 12:38-41 - this is why Jesus used parables. Isaiah 7:14 - He will be born of a young virgin woman - Matt. 1:18, 24-25; Luke 1:26-35 - Jesus was born of the young virgin Mary. Isaiah 9:1 - His ministry will make Galilee glorious - Matt 4:12-17 - Jesus begins His ministry in Galilee. Isaiah 9:6 - a woman shall bear a son called Emmanuel ("God is with us") - Luke 1:35 - Jesus is this one, the Son of God. Isaiah 11:2 - the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him - Matt. 3:16-17 - the Spirit of God descended upon Jesus like a dove. Isaiah 32:3-4; 35:5-6- His ministry will include miracles curing the blind, deaf, lame and dumb - Matt. 9:32-35 - Jesus so cured the blind, deaf, lame and dumb. Isaiah 33:22 - He will be a judge - John 5:30 - Jesus is the judge who judges justly. Isaiah 40:3; Mal. 3:1 - He will be preceded by a messenger - Mat. 3:1-3; 11:10; Luke 1:17; John 1:23 - Jesus was so preceded (by Saint John the Baptist). Isaiah 53:3 - He will be rejected by His people - John 1:11; 7:5 - Jesus was rejected by His own people. Isaiah 61:1-2 - the Spirit of the Lord is upon Him - Luke 4:21 - Jesus says that He has fulfilled this prophecy. Zech. 9:9 - He will triumphantly enter Jerusalem on an *** - Matt. 21:5; Luke 19:35-38; John 12:14-17 - Jesus so entered Jerusalem. Mic. 5:2 - Israel's ruler shall come from Bethlehem - Matt. 2:1,4-8; Luke 2:4-7 - Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Top II. Prophecies Fulfilled by Jesus in His Passion, Death, Resurrection and Ascension Psalm 16:10; 30:3 - He will not be spared from death and yet remain incorrupt - Acts 2:31; 13:33,35 - Jesus conquered death and remained incorrupt. Psalm 22:1 - My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me? - Matt. 27:46; Mark 15:34 - Jesus utters this rabbinical formula from the cross declaring that He is the Messiah. Psalm 22:7 - the people will wag their heads at Him - Matt. 27:39; Mark 15:29 - the people wagged their heads at Jesus on the cross. Psalm 22:7 - He will be mocked - Matt. 27:31; Mark 15:20; Luke 22:63; 23:36 - Jesus was mocked. Psalm 22:16; Isa. 53:12 - He will be numbered with the transgressors - Matt. 27:38; Mark 15:27; Luke 23:32; John 19:18 - Jesus was numbered with the transgressors by being crucified between two thieves. Psalm 22:16; Zech 12:10 - His hands and feet will be pierced and they will weep for the first-born - John 19:23,34,37 - Jesus' hands and feet were pierced and his followers wept for Him, the true first-born Son of Israel. Psalm 22:17 - they will stare and gloat over Him - Matt. 27:36; Luke 23:35 - the people stood by and stared at Jesus on the cross. Psalm 22:18 - they will divide His garments among them - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:23 - they divided Jesus' garments among them. Psalm 22:18 - they will cast lots for His garments - Matt. 27:35; Mark 15:24; Luke 23:34; John 19:24 - they cast lots for Jesus' garments. Psalm 30:3; 41:10, 118:17; Hos 6:2 - He will be raised to life on the third day - Acts 13:33, Matt. 28:6; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:34,46 - Jesus was raised to life on the third day. Psalm 34:20 - He will not have broken bones - John 19:33,36 - none of Jesus' bones were broken. Psalm 41:9; 55:12-14 - He will be betrayed by a friend - Matt. 10:4; 26:20-25; Mark 14:18-21; John 13:18 - Jesus was betrayed by a friend. Psalm 68:18 - He will ascend into heaven - Mark 16:19; Luke 24:51; John 20:17; Acts 1:9 - Jesus ascended into heaven. Psalm 68:20 - He will escape the powers of death - Acts 2:31; 13:33; Matt 28:6; Mark 16:6, Luke 24:46; John 20:9-10 - Jesus escaped the powers of death through his resurrection. Psalm 69:21 - they will give Him vinegar to drink - Matt. 27:34,48; Mark 15:23,36; Luke 23:36; John 19:29 - they gave Jesus vinegar to drink. Psalm 110:1 - He will sit at the right hand of God - Heb. 1:3; Acts 2:34-35 - Jesus sits at the right hand of God. Isaiah 50:6 - He will be spat upon - Matt. 26:67; Mark 15:19 - Jesus was spat upon. Isaiah 50:6; Mic. 5:1 - the ruler of Israel's cheek will be struck - Matt. 26:67; Luke 22:63; John 18:22 - Jesus was so struck and beaten. Isaiah 53:5; Zech. 13:6 - He was wounded, bruised and scourged for us - Matt. 27:26; Mark 15:15; John 19:1 - Jesus was wounded, bruised and scourged for us. Isaiah 53:7 - He will remain silent before His accusers - Matt. 27:12,14; Mark 14:61;15:5; Luke 23:9; John 19:9 - Jesus remained silent before His accusers. Isaiah 53:8-10; Dan. 9:26 - the anointed one shall be cut off and die - Luke 23:46; 24:7; John 19:30 - Jesus the Messiah died. Isaiah 53:9 - He will be buried in a rich man's tomb - Matt. 27:57-60; Mark 15:42-46; Luke 23:50-53; John 19:38-42 - Jesus was buried in a rich man's tomb (the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea). Isaiah 53:12 - He will make intercession for the transgressors - Luke 23:34,43 - Jesus made intercession for the transgressors on the cross. Amos 8:9 - God will darken the earth at noon - Matt. 27:45; Mark 15:33; Luke 23:44-45 - there was darkness at noon at Jesus' crucifixion and death. Jonah 1:17 - three nights and days in the belly of the whale foreshadows Jesus' death and rising on the third day. Mic. 1:8 - He will lament and wail, and will go stripped and naked - John 19:23-24 - Jesus lamented and was stripped and naked. Zech. 11:12-13 - He will be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver - Matt. 26:15 - Jesus was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. Zech. 11:13 - the pieces of silver are cast into God's house - Matt. 27:5 - Judas threw the pieces of silver into the Temple. Zech. 12:10 - His side will be pierced - John 19:34, 37 - Jesus' side was pierced. Zech. 13:7 - He will be forsaken by His disciples who will scatter - Matt. 26:31, Mark. 14:50 - Jesus' disciples forsook Him and scattered. One cannot refute a statement that religion maybe harmful with religious text...lol Not a good avenue to help the point. Considering that the supposed scrolls that were used for the stories in the bible were altered when they were condensed into one book, there can be no "predictions" in the book for following chapters. All of the stories in the Bible are just that, stories. The Bible was writen by man (who is not perfect). These were stories that were passed down by generation to generation and you know what happens when stories are told over a period of time, they change. I find it hard to put any credit to any of the stories. How do we know that Abraham didn't have some kind of mental issues, he was 75 years old when he first "heard" God speak to him. |
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Is Christianity Immoral?
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Jesus may forgive but Pagans / Wiccans hold you responsible.  Yes, Thank You
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Is Christianity Immoral?
Edited by
rday
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Wed 01/20/10 08:03 PM
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last word is the first word
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Wonder the world
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... And a Box of Condoms
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garbage bags, a saw,and a box of condoms
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